England announce squads for ODI's and Champions Trophy

I'm amazed I'm doing this, and defending Chris Read, but he's had a good season, especially in FC cricket. Averaging 70 in the Championship with 3 hundreds, and had a solid T20 campaign. Scott would probably get in ahead of him in ODi's, but I'd take Read in Tests and T20's.
 
I'm amazed I'm doing this, and defending Chris Read, but he's had a good season, especially in FC cricket. Averaging 70 in the Championship with 3 hundreds, and had a solid T20 campaign. Scott would probably get in ahead of him in ODi's, but I'd take Read in Tests and T20's.
One for the signature.
 
I think Shah has to make a statement with his batting, he has been more consistent for England lately and probably has a firm hold on his spot, figuratively speaking, but he should be one who steps up for them. So too, to some extent, Strauss. He has never been a one-day player of great regard, but as the captain of the team, he will have to create some performances and certainly lead from the front.

Bopara is in a weird situation in that the selectors have only just decided that he's not good enough for the 5th Test, yet they expect him to score runs in the coming weeks. Of course he'll feel like he has a point to prove, but maybe the timing is a bit awkward.

I guess in picking Denly, they feel they have enough senior players. Otherwise, talent or not, it's a lot to throw on a kid. Trott would have made a much more sensible selection. Dare I say, obvious, even. They clearly know he exists. He's apparently good enough for the Test side, but how he can average over 40 in one dayers and not be good enough for the ODI team is just one of those mysteries.

Bresnan strikes me as another odd pick. Mascarenhas was mentioned earlier and I think this just makes it more confusing. Is Bresnan picked as a bowler or an allrounder? He doesn't really seem to standout enough just as a bowler.

I'm sure Eoin Morgan vs Ireland will be a cracker.

Although Swann is a handy cricketer, England would do well to realise that Australia have struggled not only at reading the doosra, but also the googly. Rashid might prove a more useful selection at some point.

Is Anderson's spot safe in ODIs? He's not had a good run in the last couple of years. I can still remember when he averaged about 25 and was regarded as a bit of a limited overs specialist. These days, not so. I would assume he is nevertheless a certain starter, but Sidebottom might be a better way to get off to a good start.

Still, England's selectors have won the Nobel Prize. It's tough to avoid picking Ian Bell, but sometimes, through hard work and determination, it can be done.
 
I'm amazed I'm doing this, and defending Chris Read, but he's had a good season, especially in FC cricket. Averaging 70 in the Championship with 3 hundreds, and had a solid T20 campaign. Scott would probably get in ahead of him in ODi's, but I'd take Read in Tests and T20's.

Read is the Ramps of the wicket-keeping world, impressive with the bat in the counties but peace poor in Tests when it matters

Prior's done little wrong, offers something to the batting and the only case I could make for Read is if we play just four bowlers. Even then I'd stick with Prior and play all bowlers on bowling ability ie no Broads, Swanns etc
 
I'd prefer Jack Russell to Ben Scott. Chris Read will never play for England again. Moot point.
 
any body know why mascarenhas has been dropped..he is better than bresnan tbh

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I'm amazed I'm doing this, and defending Chris Read, but he's had a good season, especially in FC cricket. Averaging 70 in the Championship with 3 hundreds, and had a solid T20 campaign. Scott would probably get in ahead of him in ODi's, but I'd take Read in Tests and T20's.

to play tests and t20's only makes no sense...your either a One Day player or not..i cant see any player playing for the longest form of the game and the shortest....:doh
 
In squad news:

Rashid continues his good form with his 4th first class ton and another 5 wicket haul in the Roses match.

He's in good form. Get him in, in the ODIs and in the Saffer tour.
 
Denly, Shah, Bresnan, Wright and Morgan picked ahead of Trott is laughable. Without Pietersen or the 2nd best OD batsman in the country, Trott in the XI we're screwed. We'll lose the ODi series and not get out of the Group Stage of the Champions Trophy. Awful selections once more. What a surprise. *King Pietersen England XI shocker* As far as I'm concerned we should be going with:

Strauss
Bopara
Joyce
Trott
Collingwood
Prior +
Flintoff
Mascheranas/Wright
Broad
Swann
Anderson/Sidebottom

Sidebottom/Anderson
Shah
Morgan
Another bowler, Masters?

Then either Joyce or Collingwood would be replaced with Pietersen when he's fit. I'd have probably preferred to have seen Michael Lumb in the England squad ahead of Joe Denly as well. Been massively impressed with him whenever I've seen him, I see Denly and Morgan as just picks for this 'future' we seem to be constantly building towards. Collingwood as T20 captain is a joke as well, he's not even a good T20 player. Pietersen should have the captaincy in all forms.

i agree with most of what you say, Lumb should definitely be in there, but taking Bopara's slot, and Mascarenhas should certainly be in, now Fred isn't going to play, and on the case of another bowler, i disagree with Masters, but somebody like Plunkett, who has played well or Onions
 

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