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Glenn McGrath, Brett Lee, Nathan Bracken, Stuart Clark and Stuart MacGill will probably be in the NSW team.
Nice gentle opener then.
Nice gentle opener then.
England in Australia
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Gunner786
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Looks like yesterday was just a taste of whats to come, i actually feel sorry for this england squad.
They are gonna get mentally battered even before the 1st test has started
England face all-star state side
England's batsmen will face the toughest possible pre-Ashes test when they take on New South Wales in a three-day game, starting on Sunday.
The state side's squad includes Glenn McGrath, Brett Lee, Nathan Bracken, Stuart Clark and Stuart MacGill.
And McGrath and Lee, in particular, will be looking to take make a point ahead of the Ashes series.
Phil Jaques is also in the Blues squad, having hit 112 for a Prime Minister's XI against England in Canberra.
He is unlikely to figure in the first Test in Brisbane with Matthew Hayden and Justin Langer firmly established as Australia's first-choice opening pair.
But Michael Clarke and Simon Katich will have an opportunity at the Sydney Cricket Ground to press their claims for a place in Australia's middle order.
New South Wales will, however, be without two regular members of their side with keeper Brad Haddin (hand) and Dominic Thornely (arm) both missing the game because of injury.
They will be replaced by Daniel Smith and Aaron O'Brien.
The Blues currently lie second in the Pura Cup standings, having won two of their three games so far.
They are gonna get mentally battered even before the 1st test has started
England face all-star state side
England's batsmen will face the toughest possible pre-Ashes test when they take on New South Wales in a three-day game, starting on Sunday.
The state side's squad includes Glenn McGrath, Brett Lee, Nathan Bracken, Stuart Clark and Stuart MacGill.
And McGrath and Lee, in particular, will be looking to take make a point ahead of the Ashes series.
Phil Jaques is also in the Blues squad, having hit 112 for a Prime Minister's XI against England in Canberra.
He is unlikely to figure in the first Test in Brisbane with Matthew Hayden and Justin Langer firmly established as Australia's first-choice opening pair.
But Michael Clarke and Simon Katich will have an opportunity at the Sydney Cricket Ground to press their claims for a place in Australia's middle order.
New South Wales will, however, be without two regular members of their side with keeper Brad Haddin (hand) and Dominic Thornely (arm) both missing the game because of injury.
They will be replaced by Daniel Smith and Aaron O'Brien.
The Blues currently lie second in the Pura Cup standings, having won two of their three games so far.
evertonfan
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It's a warm up game, nothing more, nothing less. The very purpose of warm-up games is to 'warm-up' the lesser experienced and less used players.
When was the last time you saw a football team think their season was ruined because they lost in a friendly?
When was the last time you saw a football team think their season was ruined because they lost in a friendly?
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i know its a warmup match
but facing a team like that will mentally drain the english team
i suspect sajid mahmoods tour is already over after the beating he got yesterday
monty was lucky he only got 3 overs
but facing a team like that will mentally drain the english team
i suspect sajid mahmoods tour is already over after the beating he got yesterday
monty was lucky he only got 3 overs
puddleduck
Chairman of Selectors
Don't be so sure Gambino, the England management has at times unbelievable faith in players they've deemed good enough for International cricket. Almost like a refusal to admit they could possibly be wrong.
They will consider him still for the 1st test as he has improved quite a bit with the bat, and on top of that is more dangerous, much like Harmy, in the longer format that the shorter format.
That said, an attack containing both him and Harmy could go disastrouly wrong, whilst with Freddie IF he broke down would leave us in some serious problems. I really do hope that the signals coming from Fletcher that Giles is ahead of Monty for the 1st test are just an attempt to confuse the Aussies.
If we do play Jones and Giles I will cry and finally join the bandwaggon that seems to be growing to have Fletcher removed. We must play attacking cricket as Vaughan said, and that means go in with the people most likely to take wickets, and that as a double act includes Read and Panesar.
By the way some people seem to be assuming when they say they will play 5 bowlers that it doesn't include Freddie, that is not the case. When they say they might play 5 bowlers they mean 4 + Freddie. The question is if Freddie is fit enough, do they play just the 4 including Freddie and go for the extra strong batting lineup. Afterall they bowled a very strong Pakistan batting lineup out enough times without Freddie, so him instead of Mahmood means the tail looks a lot shorter and the bowling attack if anything looks stronger.
They will consider him still for the 1st test as he has improved quite a bit with the bat, and on top of that is more dangerous, much like Harmy, in the longer format that the shorter format.
That said, an attack containing both him and Harmy could go disastrouly wrong, whilst with Freddie IF he broke down would leave us in some serious problems. I really do hope that the signals coming from Fletcher that Giles is ahead of Monty for the 1st test are just an attempt to confuse the Aussies.
If we do play Jones and Giles I will cry and finally join the bandwaggon that seems to be growing to have Fletcher removed. We must play attacking cricket as Vaughan said, and that means go in with the people most likely to take wickets, and that as a double act includes Read and Panesar.
By the way some people seem to be assuming when they say they will play 5 bowlers that it doesn't include Freddie, that is not the case. When they say they might play 5 bowlers they mean 4 + Freddie. The question is if Freddie is fit enough, do they play just the 4 including Freddie and go for the extra strong batting lineup. Afterall they bowled a very strong Pakistan batting lineup out enough times without Freddie, so him instead of Mahmood means the tail looks a lot shorter and the bowling attack if anything looks stronger.
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You guys made the match as a go off when you want, play all 14 players so NSW also can use 14 players.
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gambino said:
next time you cannot be bothered to write your own words, link to the article you copied from next time like this instead of pasting it here
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/6135540.stm
Sky announced the PM X1's game being broadcast quite late on, so I suppose there could still be a chance they show the NSW game.
This would be my team for the first test.
Strauss
Tresco
Cook
Bell
Pietersen
Flintoff
Read
Mahmood
Harmison
Hoggard
Panesar
Actually just writing that team I was going to play Anderson instead of Mahmood, then looked at it and realised that if Anderson played, we would have 4 real true tail-enders. at 8, 9, 10, 11. Mahmood has improved his batting so I think at the moment he would be best at 8. Other option would be play Giles for Monty, In would be sooooooooo angry with Fletcher if that happened. But this England team could collapse very, very easily. Flintoff is liable to give his wicket away, he'll also be targeted by the Aussies. Read can get out playing stupid shots, then your left with the tail. Of course, at Sydney and Adelaide, we will probably play Giles and Monty.
Don't read too much into the warm-up game earlier today. To be honest, this up and coming game against NSW is a joke as well, you will not be able to judge how players are doing in a 14 player game. That game at Adelaide will be a good tester and if we win could give us some good momentum.
Now, onto Australia, nobody's really touched on them yet. I if was an Aussie, my team would be:
Hayden
Langer
Ponting
Martyn
Hussey
Watson
Gilchrist
Lee
Warne
Johnson
McGrath
Johnson would be a different bowler, played well against England in the CT. England batsmen may find it difficult against the left-armer, they struggled against Vaas in the summer, and Johnson is quicker. Watson would bring a balance to the team.
This would be my team for the first test.
Strauss
Tresco
Cook
Bell
Pietersen
Flintoff
Read
Mahmood
Harmison
Hoggard
Panesar
Actually just writing that team I was going to play Anderson instead of Mahmood, then looked at it and realised that if Anderson played, we would have 4 real true tail-enders. at 8, 9, 10, 11. Mahmood has improved his batting so I think at the moment he would be best at 8. Other option would be play Giles for Monty, In would be sooooooooo angry with Fletcher if that happened. But this England team could collapse very, very easily. Flintoff is liable to give his wicket away, he'll also be targeted by the Aussies. Read can get out playing stupid shots, then your left with the tail. Of course, at Sydney and Adelaide, we will probably play Giles and Monty.
Don't read too much into the warm-up game earlier today. To be honest, this up and coming game against NSW is a joke as well, you will not be able to judge how players are doing in a 14 player game. That game at Adelaide will be a good tester and if we win could give us some good momentum.
Now, onto Australia, nobody's really touched on them yet. I if was an Aussie, my team would be:
Hayden
Langer
Ponting
Martyn
Hussey
Watson
Gilchrist
Lee
Warne
Johnson
McGrath
Johnson would be a different bowler, played well against England in the CT. England batsmen may find it difficult against the left-armer, they struggled against Vaas in the summer, and Johnson is quicker. Watson would bring a balance to the team.
Johnson always performs when picked recently, I do not know why he is ever dropped.
The 3 day game has DRAW written all over it, England will probably just occupy the crease in their first innings and spend two days getting their batsman "in", and the remaining day as a gentle, yet challenging, warm up for the bowlers.
The 3 day game has DRAW written all over it, England will probably just occupy the crease in their first innings and spend two days getting their batsman "in", and the remaining day as a gentle, yet challenging, warm up for the bowlers.
Watching Shaun Tait today, I thinkin he should start the first test. He's bowling brilliant, was touching 150 KPH today as well, swinging the new ball, keeping things tight and picking up wickets. Very good performance by him.
Cameron White also showed his quality as a finisher in limited overs cricket today, some really crap tail bowling though by England.
Cameron White also showed his quality as a finisher in limited overs cricket today, some really crap tail bowling though by England.
s2sschan
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evertonfan said:
It was just one bad day at the office for England, but the way they were outclassed by a modest opposition, raised a lot of questions.
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the top bit were my own wordszimrahil said:
moza1
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My ashes aussie starting 11:
Langer
Hayden
Ponting
Martyn
Hussey
Watson/Clarke
Gilchrist
Warne
Lee
Bracken
Mcgrath
Langer
Hayden
Ponting
Martyn
Hussey
Watson/Clarke
Gilchrist
Warne
Lee
Bracken
Mcgrath
NO! Against Lee, McGrath, MacGill, Bracken and Clark you guys will prolly struggle just to get 1.5days worth of batting.manee said:
In clarification of my last post, I was just thinking back to 2005 and how Aussies were scarred by the loss and listening to Chasing Cars by Snow Patrol. Mad song, brought back a lot of memories. The danger of reading too much into one day form comes from the example of Shane Watson who was pretty effective against the World XI last year but in the tests was quite harmless in bowling terms. His batting in tests should be OK as he averages liek 50 in domestic.
My Aussie XI
Hayden
Langer
Ponting
Martyn
Clarke
Hussey
Gilchrist
Warne
Lee
Johnson/Tait/Bracken/ depends on the pitch
McGrath
and MacGill for Sydney to replace one of the bowlers
If I were English this would be my XI
Trescothick
Strauss
Cook/Bell
Pietersen
Collingwood
Flintoff
Read
Panesar
Harmison
Hoggard
Lewis
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