England in India - Oct to Jan 2012/13
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spooony
Club Captain
Just make sure you are not batting on day 5 on a Indian pitch. If England can do that they will have a good chance.
puddleduck
Chairman of Selectors
I always loved the arguments made by pro-Readites at the time, they argued that you should pick the keeper based purely on keeping ability, but still then referred to his county record with the bat..................
(all you need to say on that score is "Ramprakash".....................)----------
We were the weaker side in 2001 against Pakistan for sure and arguably Sri Lanka, yet won both series. Against Pakistan we just ground out decent scores and hung on for the first two Tests, then blitzed Pakistan on the fifth day of the final Test and knocked them over from a decent overnight position, and chased down 176 in the darkness despite blatant time wasting by Moin Khan.
In Sri Lanka I think they would have won but for Hussain refusing to walk and not being given to TWO catches which, as I recall, came off the face of the bat to the silly point fielder. Laws state that a batsman is out in those circumstances, nothing about having to be given out, so he cheated. We just about scraped home to a win in that, and then the series.
So it can be done, if our batsmen apply themselves and fight rather than decide to sweep as a way of countering spin and being found out (more by not knowing what to sweep than any lack of technical ability to sweep) I do expect us to be humbled, maybe not a whitewash but I don't believe our players have the grit, determination and application to make enough runs in India.
spooony
Club Captain
Providing we haven't already lost by day 4
lol Then make sure you win the toss and make the correct calls haha
Bit harsh to drop Bairstow as well after he did well in the last test. I just hope Compton gets the nod over Root, because I think he's a much more complete player at this point and he could do well with his survival instincts in India.
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Compton
Trottt
KP
Bell
Bairstow
Prior
Broad
Swann
Anderson
Finn
Since India became a force @ home, pace is what wins in India as Windies 84, SA 2000, AUS 2004 have shown. Even England in 2006 as some might remember won its only test in India in years thanks to the pacers during the mumbai test of that series.
This philosophy makes even more sense vs an India batting without Dravid/Laxman, out of form openers and an ageing Tendulkar. They could be ripe for the taking. Panesar should only come in, if the selectors are 100% certain a specific pitch is an utter dustbowl.
England's only worry is how they are going to handle the Indian spinners. Its going to be a challenge, but with KP back it becomes much easier.
Ashin/Ojha will always be dangerous in home conditions, but for some reason that they don't give me the same fear as when Kumble/Harbhajan were at their peak bowling together in early 2000s.
Compton
Trottt
KP
Bell
Bairstow
Prior
Broad
Swann
Anderson
Finn
Since India became a force @ home, pace is what wins in India as Windies 84, SA 2000, AUS 2004 have shown. Even England in 2006 as some might remember won its only test in India in years thanks to the pacers during the mumbai test of that series.
This philosophy makes even more sense vs an India batting without Dravid/Laxman, out of form openers and an ageing Tendulkar. They could be ripe for the taking. Panesar should only come in, if the selectors are 100% certain a specific pitch is an utter dustbowl.
England's only worry is how they are going to handle the Indian spinners. Its going to be a challenge, but with KP back it becomes much easier.
Ashin/Ojha will always be dangerous in home conditions, but for some reason that they don't give me the same fear as when Kumble/Harbhajan were at their peak bowling together in early 2000s.
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Satan666
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The Indians historically ar failures when it comes to short pitch bowling, Dravid handled it well, he is out now and Tendulkar never seem comfortable against the short stuff also.
Agreed Ashwin and Ojha are highly overrated they're not like a Harbhajan or Ajmal or even Narine for that matter!
With KP back, its going to be an interesting series. But I still expect India to do pretty well in this series considering that we are on home conditions.
In fact for this series, I won't play much of Zaheer. Ishant and Yadav with Ashwin and Ojha should be our bowling attack in atleast two tests. Hope Aaron is ready and back for this series.
In fact for this series, I won't play much of Zaheer. Ishant and Yadav with Ashwin and Ojha should be our bowling attack in atleast two tests. Hope Aaron is ready and back for this series.
Still think bringing KP back so soon is not the best thing, but obviously the selectors have it in their mind his absence was pivotal to losing the T20 and he will win England the India series.
Next summer would have been soon enough, adding him to the tour party this late sends out all the wrong signals.
Next summer would have been soon enough, adding him to the tour party this late sends out all the wrong signals.
Just like how England start doing the 'Gangnam' when they face the spinners in the subcontinent!
Tendulkar not being comfortable to the short ball? Stop injecting yourself with drugs...
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