England In India - October 2011/12

It's not offensive to anybody, Saisrini. I am sure that many/most Indians would back me on this one- saying 'ghada' to somebody is just banter. I'm sorry you're a little girl.
 
England would have knocked off the runs pretty easily in my opinion. Especially with Stokes playing, he's like Sehwag but not a flat track bully.
 
It's not offensive to anybody, Saisrini. I am sure that many/most Indians would back me on this one- saying 'ghada' to somebody is just banter. I'm sorry you're a little girl.
I haven't read previous post so unaware of what conversation is going but I completely agree with you. It's not a slang, neither a dirty word, just a friendly banter.
 
It's not offensive to anybody, Saisrini. I am sure that many/most Indians would back me on this one- saying 'ghada' to somebody is just banter. I'm sorry you're a little girl.

I guess we have a lot of those in our country then, the little girls. No worries, because little girls are sweet and cute. :p;)

How serious is Sachin's injury? Better send him back home and not waste time by showing him to specialists and keeping us in the dark on whether he will play or not? For Rohit Sharma, I guess this is time to bring in Rayudu or Pandey. Pure bad luck that our injury count keeps on increasing on this tour. Would be stupid to blame IPL or T20 for this (if someone does so).
 
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I haven't read previous post so unaware of what conversation is going but I completely agree with you.

The discussion has arisen because Nasser Hussain said on commentary that some of India's fielders fielded like donkey's. Meaning they were slow, poor and made mistakes.

Sai thinks this is a massive insult to which Hussain should apologise.

Did you feel the same about Andrew Symonds being called a monkey??

And others are just being silly.

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Little girls also need to grow up. That sounded a little harsh *ubiquitous smiley face to lighten the mood.* :lol:lol:lol;););):noway:noway:noway
 
In the context, what Nasser said was alright, I feel. I doubt there are many little girls (ones you refer to) in here, Sai. I haven't actually seen any as of yet.
 
This!!:cheers Spending so much money on a technology that's not 100% (well Hot Spot needs to be 100% because when its not, its a waste of money and resources). First the vaseline accusation, now this. WOW! Utter crap!

No technology is 100%. I suppose that means you don't use any of them, in which case I look forward to not hearing from you on this flawed internet again.:lol

Illogical argument. You are comparing necessities with luxuries. Car and hospitals are more absolute necessities than luxuries.

And of course you're the arbiter of what's necessary and what's not. :rolleyes Next year, the DRS will be a 'necessity' and the BCCI Luddites and their acolytes will have stopped trying to turn back the tide, and that means yet another illogical argument of yours goes down the drain.

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England would have knocked off the runs pretty easily in my opinion. Especially with Stokes playing, he's like Sehwag but not a flat track bully.

You make a good point here. We've seen off the silliness about "Sehwag a better bowler than Anderson". But we haven't had the "Anderson a better bat than Sehwag" debate yet.
 
:facepalm to anyone trying to compare Hussain calling Indian fielders 'donkeys' with someone calling a black person a 'monkey' :facepalm The latter is RACIST, the former might be insulting but not at all comparable.



D/L knocked off just 51 runs and 18 overs off the proposed run chase?!?!?! (224 off 32 overs) So they reckon over 18 overs England would have only scored at under three an over not losing a wicket?!?!?! It's not like England were through the powerplays so had gained any/much advantage from restrictions.

India would have won, fair enough. Why oh why was Trott bowling? Dernbach didn't bowl too well, I see the muddle overs were pushed through as usual - 99/2 when Patel came on after 21 overs, 35 overs gone when Trott and Patel were taken off with the score advanced to 179/2 which is 80 runs off 14 overs with no loss of wicket. As if further evidence were needed, Broad and Anderson came back, the latter taking a wicket in the 37th over.

15 overs : India 78/0

21 overs : India 99/2 with Broad having taken both wickets

35 overs : India 179/2 with Trott 2-0-14-0 and Patel 7-0-29-0 but any pressure released

40 overs : India 207/4, two wickets falling quickly

50 overs : India 274/7, a late flurry of wickets from 266/4 to 274/7 in the last two overs making it look like England were in the contest.


Where did the game get away from England? Between overs 21 and 35. England as usual didn't maintain pressure through wickets, too keen to get the 4th, 5th and even 6th bowler through. Patel bowled tidily, but you need wickets and not taking them with someone else not bowling well releases any pressure. Bowling Trott was just senseless, and Anderson having an over left unbowled is not clever captaincy :noway Too worried about the muddle overs and keeping overs for the end, England are all too predictable.

As for Kieswetter, still unconvinced by him. If this "pinch-hitter" is going to work, he needs to succeed more often. Scores of 107, 69, 72no and 61 maintain a decent 30 average, but five single figure scores and six of 11-20 (at a good SR) just means we lose an early wicket too often and the new batsman faces a relatively new ball. India got to 78/0 off 15, we got to 27/2 off about half that and that isn't a shock.

Still Vaughan's grand theory about Ashes series stopping us being a force in World Cups may be tested, what his excuse for us being poor at other times is I don't know - we've been drubbed too often for it to just be Ashes tours, if England subscribe to his theory we're fecked.
 
Not sure India dominated the game that much, won't disagree that we need to take more wickets in the middle overs, this is a combination of taking wickets early enough so that you can afford to have 5 or 6 men inside during the 20-35 overs and more attacking bowlers. I know he got two at the end, but is Bresnan a better option than Finn as our 3rd/4th seamer?

Can't really agree with the D/L totals that were being set either.

Samit did all right, but he has to be a 6th bowler option. It was a tick in his favour that bowling performance, but not as our only spinner.

Agreed on Kieswetter as well, I just prefer Davies. But he's got the rest of the series, the captaincy could also have been better, but Cook is learning and I'd hope he'll be a bit more aggressive than Strauss, time will tell.
 
:facepalm to anyone trying to compare Hussain calling Indian fielders 'donkeys' with someone calling a black person a 'monkey' :facepalm The latter is RACIST, the former might be insulting but not at all comparable.

I only just found out from Wikipedia that one of Symonds' biological parents is 'thought to be' of West Indian descent (he was born in England). There are millions of Australians of pure European descent who are as dark-skinned as him. But Harbhajan is supposed to have known he was a 'person of colour' (he doesn't even identify that way himself) and was thus being racist. It is thoroughly comparable.

Add to that the fact that Australia at the time did sledging and physical intimidation (thuggery) drills along with their other 'training'. The only difference with Harbhajan must have been that he admitted it. He was never found guilty of racist abuse anyway.
 
Agreed on Kieswetter as well, I just prefer Davies. But he's got the rest of the series,

Insane view, the 'he's got the rest of the series' bit I mean. He averaged over 50 at a strike rate of close to 100 in the last series, yet you'd drop him if he didn't perform 'well enough' in this series? Madness. He's a proven performer in County One day cricket and deserves a fair go. Lord knows some of the other players in that side get enough chances.

And that's nothing personal against Davies, as I've said before, I'd have him and Kieswetter opening together.
 
What happened to Adil Rashid? His stats are pretty good.
 

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