Themer
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James Taylor? Career average of 48 on the back of a century against Sri Lanka A. James Taylor? Yes.
England In India - October 2011/12
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Yeah, he was decent last year. Just shows that perhaps you shouldn't judge young players too early. Sri Lanka A are hardly a team of World beaters either, considering Durham's second eleven just beat them.
I agree that Taylor could be very good, but putting him in against the best team in the world, when he's having a very mediocre season? That's madness.
I agree that Taylor could be very good, but putting him in against the best team in the world, when he's having a very mediocre season? That's madness.
Really hope India can pull off a victory here. They've done the job in the first innings, getting England out for 221. They should aim for a lead of about a 100. I really hope Yuvraj clicks, and doesn't get nicked off by Broad, or LBW from Anderson. If Yuvraj stays in he will score really quickly.
If India do win this, it'll boost their confidence hugely going into the next match espeicially with some big guns coming back. You gotta remember that this is still a depleted Indian side. Sehwag, Gambhir and Zaheer are gun players...and I do hope all three come back for the next game. I'm not very convinced by Mukund...any runs he does score in the 2nd innings is a bonus, but this places a lot of pressure on the big 3 in the side.
If India do win this, it'll boost their confidence hugely going into the next match espeicially with some big guns coming back. You gotta remember that this is still a depleted Indian side. Sehwag, Gambhir and Zaheer are gun players...and I do hope all three come back for the next game. I'm not very convinced by Mukund...any runs he does score in the 2nd innings is a bonus, but this places a lot of pressure on the big 3 in the side.
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Morgan has been disappointing but I would actually give him another match or 2. if there is anyone that can replace him it must be RAVI BOPARA. He is so over looked it is unreal. He can play the Colly role for us for an entire new generation.
I think India need to start playing some positive cricket tomorrow or they will get bogged down with a RR of 1 and lose wickets
I think India need to start playing some positive cricket tomorrow or they will get bogged down with a RR of 1 and lose wickets
If India pull off a win here, it would be a special win. As you said, without Sehwag, Gambhir and Zaheer in the lineup, playing after a demoralising Lord's defeat against an England side on the rampage and chasing us for that No.1 spot, it would have to be special. I wish we can pull it off. I am confident that we will do well in this test.
I would give Mukund time. We gave guys like Jaffer, Vijay, Debang Gandhi, Ramesh, etc chances. We need to give Mukund too enough chances. Whatever opportunities he has got so far, he has done well (49 and 12 at Lords). He is taking more time to learn certain things and hopefully he should learn them soon. I like the look of him on the field, and he is positive and technically solid and can manage both.
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Towards the end of Day 1, Laxman started playing some shots. I think once they come in tomorrow, they will take sometime to get their feet moving and they will try to score runs at decent test match pace (that is, if they survive out there). I am pretty sure India wont play at less than 2 runs per over throughout their innings.
Thanks Son.
AkshayS
Chairman of Selectors
A brilliant day of cricket, Indian bowlers bowled beautifully in first two sessions but Broad-Swann were instrumental in last one. Still I hope India play out the whole day today at more than 3 an over or something like that.
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PK has been very impressive. He is haunting English Batters just like Asif did last year. Its his ability to bowl both swings that has troubled the batsmen most.
India will do well to score 320-330 on this pitch. A 100 runs lead here could be the difference. Swan and Broad showed the way to bat on this pitch. One has to be a little more aggressive to get runs. English batting was too timid. Lets see if Indian top order takes a cue.
India will do well to score 320-330 on this pitch. A 100 runs lead here could be the difference. Swan and Broad showed the way to bat on this pitch. One has to be a little more aggressive to get runs. English batting was too timid. Lets see if Indian top order takes a cue.
Please do, that will reduce the thread by a huge amount.
Kumar was rightly punished, I think the Indian fans on here need to chill because most England fans know Broad is a plank but that doesn't justify Kumar doing it. If/when Broad does it in this match, then it would be appropriate to compare and contrast.
Generous, but I think it isn't close to even. While we have runs on the board, we've thrown a few wickets away and I reckon par is 250-300. England will need to keep any lead down to less than 50-70 runs in my opinion.
I reckon England need to take three wickets a session minimum to keep in the game. What worries me most is England are likely to go more defensive as India get closer to their total, we need to focus on taking wickets and maintain at least two slips and a gully. The game will almost certainly finish early with a positive result, defending is a delaying tactic and that won't do much good. I've said before you are likely to get a result if both 1st innings are complete by the end of day three, this Test could be there by close of play today or lunch/tea tomorrow, and the longer into tomorrow this innings goes the closer to an India win they'll get.
Good recovery from England, but some of the dismissals worry me and the fact that several batsmen got in - Strauss 32, Pietersen 29, Bell 31 - but didn't go on. All three were out to pretty poor shots no matter how well India bowled. Broad and Swann got away with a fair bit, reminds me of some of the old days like Gough and DeFreitas, DeFreitas and Lawrence etc. Still it was only enough to claw us back from being skittled cheaply, should have been aiming at a total of at least 300 so fell well short - but not as well short as we were on for.
1991 vs West Indies : 58 for the 10th wicket (DeFreitas 55, Lawrence 34)
DeFreitas had already added 38 with Illingworth from the nasty position of 115/8, these two made sure the West Indies had to chase over 100 which they did for the loss of just Phil Simmons.
1991 vs West Indies : 92 for the 9th wicket (Pringle 45, Lewis 65)
Again England struggling to set a decent total, these two made sure of setting West Indies 150+ DeFreitas left West Indies 24/3 but Carl Hooper and Viv Richards guided them home.
1994 vs New Zealand : 130 for the 8th wicket (DeFreitas 69, Gough 65)
England were 235/7, finished 382 all out. New Zealand followed on when bowled out for 151 with DeFreitas and Gough taking 7/108 between them, but made 308/7 2nd innings with the aforementioned taking 5/165 between them.
2011 vs India : 73 for the 9th wicket (Broad 64, Swann 28)
England reeling at 124/8 added nearly 100 for the last two wickets - more than the first six wickets addded.
I've yet to think of a rescue mission with lower order batting that resulted in an England win, I mean there are probably some 4th innings and a few "icing on the cake" slogs, but not very similar (could be some, can't think of them though)
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re Morgan, he really needs to show he is a Test batsman. 19 runs in this series is poor, sure he averaged 56.00 against a weakened Sri Lanka attack but he gets in and gets out too often for me.
Morgan (11 Tests)
Ducks : 3
1-9 runs : 3
10-29 : 4
30-49 : 2
50-79 : 2
80-99 : 0
100+ : 1
Out for 0-29 on 10 occasions, that in 15 innings.(66.67%) He's passed 50 twice then got out before he got to 80, for me he's an ODI player.
Jury is still out on Bresnan for me, has done well against the aussies but only in two Tests.
Bresnan is probably a stop gap measure until Tremlett is fit, Morgan might get the series but I'd be looking ahead to the winter and he's averaging on 31.64 with all his Tests in this country (/Wales)
@Owzat - the thing was it wasn't really a 9th wicket partnership. Both Broad and Swann are good enough to bat much higher than that and compared to England tails of the past this one is exceptionally long.
I will be fed up if the sun shines and the ball doesn't swing today as India would have had the best of the conditions again. Mind you Broad was saying last night that Trent Bridge isn't as bad as Lord's for going flat when the sun is out.
I will be fed up if the sun shines and the ball doesn't swing today as India would have had the best of the conditions again. Mind you Broad was saying last night that Trent Bridge isn't as bad as Lord's for going flat when the sun is out.
From Michael Vaughan's twitter: 'Heavy cloud cover on Nottingham.. Englands bowlers will be delighted.: wickets to tumble again today... Could be a 3 day game!!!!!'
Themer
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Yeah but Michael Vaughan talks a load of rubbish since he retired so I even doubt his ability to forecast. For the record its nice and sunny here and I don't live too far away.
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England need to back their young players. Who are they going to go back to? Bopara?
I don't think even Ravi Bopara thinks that's a good idea.
Big partnership to break this; if they get through the first hour I feel we're going to be in trouble. From the commentary it sounds like the pitch has settled down too.
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