England Team Discussion

Dan Lawrence?
Defends with very low hands - would be a poor match-up with Kyle Jamieson (I'm sure that will age well)

I think the biggest TBC is the fact that Ed Smith's favourites are probably already out the door. Who that means will be dropped, we don't know.
except for Buttler and Bairstow
Seemingly out of the door with England and in with CSK
 
So over the last year, Matt Critchley has averaged over 50 with the bat and under 30 with the ball for Derbyshire. With Stokes out due to his finger and England used to a balanced side, I guess he could be a contender for a bit of a rogue Test debut this summer.
Watching him against Essex seems to have made this age like milk. 12-0-87-1, 4 and 25.
 
Watching him against Essex seems to have made this age like milk. 12-0-87-1, 4 and 25.
Yep, that single game just cost him a Test debut I think. Shame really as most leg-spinners have a bad spell in them from time to time, but for some it just happens at the worst time. Arguably better then than when Bryce McGain's struck though.

I was also thinking that I wouldn't mind Darren Stevens being given a one-off Test cap, maybe against India at the end of the summer or something, to recognise his performances. I know there's the saying of there being "no room for sentiment in sport", but that saying isn't worth the time it takes to type/say it
 
So you may be aware that I have previously done an "All the spinners in England currently" post in which I look at every player in the county game and suggest that England pretty much are picking the best available bowlers and that the only quick fix would be to get Simon Harmer a British passport. It is quoted below:
All the spinners in England currently

Derbyshire

:eng: :ar: :bro: Matt Critchley (24, leg-spin) - 82 wickets @ 44.85 (2 5WI, best 6/73)

Durham
:eng: :ar: :redo: Liam Trevaskis (21, left-orthodox) - 7 wickets @ 76.57 (best 2/96)
:eng: :ar: :bro: Scott Borthwick (30, leg-spin) - 208 wickets @ 38.94 (3 5WI, best 6/70)

Essex
:saf: :ar: :goldo: Simon Harmer (31, off-spin) - 646 wickets @ 27.10 (37 5WI, best 9/95)
:eng: :bwl: :bro: Aron Nijjar (26, left-orthodox) - 19 wickets @ 41.31 (best 2/28)

Glamorgan
:eng: :ar: :redo: Andrew Salter (27, off-spin) - 86 wickets @ 48.02 (best 4/80)
:eng: :bwl: :blueo: Prem Sisodiya (24, left-orthodox) - 15 wickets @ 24.60 (best 4/79)

Gloucestershire
:saf: :ar: :bro: Graeme van Buuren (30, left-orthodox) - 88 wickets @ 32.63 (best 4/12)
:eng: :bwl: :bro: Tom Smith (33, left-orthodox) - 78 wickets @ 49.58 (best 4/35)

Hampshire
:eng: :ar: :slvo: Liam Dawson (30, left-orthodox) - 205 wickets @ 35.21 (3 5WI, best 7/51)
:eng: :bwl: :bro: Mason Crane (23, leg-spin) - 96 wickets @ 45.16 (2 5WI, best 5/35)

Kent
:eng: :bwl: :redo: Hamidullah Qadri (20, off-spin) - 38 wickets @ 38.75 (1 5WI, best 5/60)
:eng: :bwl: :blueo: Imran Qayyum (27, left-orthodox) - 12 wickets @ 43.66 (best 3/158)

Lancashire
:eng: :bwl: :slvo: Matt Parkinson (24, leg-spin) - 62 wickets @ 25.22 (3 5WI, best 6/23)
:eng: :bwl: :blueo: Tom Hartley (22, left-orthodox) - 6 wickets @ 54.00 (best 3/79)
:eng: :bwl: :blueo: Jack Morley (19, left-orthodox) - 5 wickets @ 14.20 (best 4/62)

Leicestershire
:eng: :bwl: :bro: Callum Parkinson (24, left-orthodox) - 54 wickets @ 43.33 (1 5WI, best 8/148)
:eng: :ar: :bro: Arron Lilley (29, off-spin) - 43 wickets @ 33.20 (2 5WI, best 5/23)

Middlesex
:aus: :bwl: :bro: Nathan Sowter (28, leg-spin) - 18 wickets @ 44.16 (best 3/42)
:eng: :bwl: :blueo: Thilan Walallawita (22, left-orthodox) - 6 wickets @ 40.83 (best 3/28)
:eng: :ar: :blueo: Luke Hollman (20, leg-spin) - no first-class experience

Northamptonshire
:eng: :ar: :bro: Rob Keogh (29, off-spin) - 89 wickets @ 43.49 (1 5WI, best 9/52)
:eng: :ar: :blueo: Saif Zaib (22, left-orthodox) - 17 wickets @ 29.23 (1 5WI, best 6/115)
:eng: :bwl: :slvo: Simon Kerrigan (31, left-orthodox) - 325 wickets @ 30.56 (13 5WI, best 9/51)

Nottinghamshire
:eng: :ar: :bro: Samit Patel (36, left-orthodox) - 357 wickets @ 38.23 (5 5WI, best 7/68)
:eng: :bwl: :blueo: Liam Patterson-White (22, left-orthodox) - 20 wickets @ 21.00 (1 5WI, best 5/73)
:eng: :bwl: :bro: Matt Carter (24, off-spin) - 50 wickets @ 39.78 (2 5WI, best 7/56)

Somerset
:eng: :bwl: :goldo: Jack Leach (29, left-orthodox) - 293 wickets @ 25.74 (20 5WI, best 8/85)
:eng: :bwl: :bro: Max Waller (32, leg-spin) - 10 wickets @ 49.30 (best 3/33)

Surrey
:eng: :bwl: :slvo: Gareth Batty (43, off-spin) - 682 wickets @ 32.78 (27 5WI, best 8/64)
:eng: :bwl: :slvo: Amar Virdi (22, off-spin) - 91 wickets @ 28.08 (4 5WI, best 8/61)
:eng: :bwl: :blueo: Dan Moriarty (21, left-orthodox) - 17 wickets @ 20.11 (3 5WI, best 6/70)

Sussex
:eng: :ar: :bro: Will Beer (32, leg-spin) - 40 wickets @ 37.00 (2 5WI, best 6/29)
:ire: :bwl: :blueo: Jack Carson (20, off-spin) - 15 wickets @ 22.66 (1 5WI, best 5/93)

Warwickshire
:eng: :bwl: :slvo: Danny Briggs (29, left-orthodox) - 270 wickets @ 34.77 (8 5WI, best 6/45)
:eng: :ar: :bro: Alex Thomson (27, off-spin) - 20 wickets @ 38.55 (1 5WI, best 6/138)

Worcestershire
:eng: :ar: :slvo: Moeen Ali (33, off-spin) - 368 wickets @ 37.94 (12 5WI, best 6/29)
:eng: :ar: :redo: Brett D'Oliveira (28, leg-spin) - 57 wickets @ 49.98 (2 5WI, best 7/92)

Yorkshire
:eng: :bwl: :slvo: Dom Bess (23, off-spin) - 129 wickets @ 30.23 (9 5WI, best 7/117)
:eng: :ar: :goldo: Adil Rashid (32, leg-spin) - 512 wickets @ 35.05 (20 5WI, best 7/107)
:eng: :bwl: :slvo: Josh Poysden (29, leg-spin) - 33 wickets @ 32.84 (2 5WI, best 5/29)
:eng: :bwl: :blueo: Jack Shutt (23, off-spin) - 2 wickets @ 52.00 (best 2/14)

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Statistically Sensible Suggestions

To be considered a "sensible" selection, a player must have:
  • EITHER :tick: 100 or more wickets at an average of under 40
  • OR :tick: 50 or more wickets at an average of under 30
  • AND :tick: be under the age of 36 (this rules out guys like Gareth Batty)
The sensible selections are:
  • Moeen Ali (Worcestershire)
  • Dom Bess (Yorkshire)
  • Scott Borthwick (Durham) - Has for the last few years been a specialist batsman and part-time leggie)
  • Danny Briggs (Warwickshire)
  • Liam Dawson (Hampshire)
  • Simon Harmer (Essex) - Not sure about whether he is England qualified yet or not
  • Simon Kerrigan (Northamptonshire) - Literally needed years away from the professional game after his last Test match
  • Jack Leach (Somerset)
  • Matt Parkinson (Yorkshire)
  • Adil Rashid (Yorkshire) - Has made himself unavailable for Test cricket
  • Amar Virdi (Surrey)
However there's one more name I'd like to add to the list:
  • Dan Moriarty (Surrey)
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So that's England's entire spin stock. I think if Simon Harmer qualifies to play for England, he should walk into the side for India; he's been outstanding ever since he arrived at Essex, and has expressed an interest in representing England. If he's not available, however, then you have the issue of there being only seven sensible spinners, plus one punt. Of those seven, five are in Sri Lanka already, one is injured but would otherwise be there too, and one is Danny Briggs.

Now, as before I am going to try to identify batsmen who are "sensible" suggestions. Sensible suggestions will be those who meet the following criteria, and will be denoted by that sexy green check mark (:tick:). Players with Test caps will be marked by a :c:
  • English qualified to the best of my knowledge
  • EITHER :tick: 50 or more matches at an average of over 35 (I can't believe I'm setting the bar this low)
  • OR :tick: 30 or more matches at an average of over 45
  • AND :tick: be under the age of 36 (previously the "Gareth Batty" rule)
I'll also be colour-coding players according to batting position: :redo: for openers, :goldo: for top-order players (3-4) and :blueo: for middle-order players (5-6). If you're batting below that for your county then tough, you're not being included.

Derbyshire
:eng: :ar: :blueo: Matt Critchley (24) - 2,907 runs @ 31.59 (4 centuries, best 137*) in 61 matches
:eng: :bat: :redo: Billy Godleman (32) - 9,265 runs @ 31.94 (21 centuries, best 227) in 169 matches
:eng: :ar: :redo: Luis Reece (30) - 3,969 runs @ 32.00 (7 centuries, best 184) in 73 matches

Durham
:eng: :ar: :goldo: Scott Borthwick (31) - 9,573 runs @ 35.06 (20 centuries, best 216) in 177 matches :tick: :c:
:eng: :bat: :blueo: Jack Burnham (24) - 2,015 runs @ 25.83 (2 centuries, best 135) in 50 matches
:eng: :bat: :redo: Sean Dickson (29) - 3,833 runs @ 33.04 (10 centuries, best 318) in 74 matches
:eng: :bat: :redo: Alex Lees (28) - 6,971 runs @ 35.38 (17 centuries, best 275*) in 123 matches :tick:
:eng: :ar: :blueo: Ben Stokes (30) - 8,424 runs @ 35.39 (18 centuries, best 258) in 147 matches :tick: :c:

Essex
:eng: :bat: :redo: Nick Browne (30) - 6,027 runs @ 37.66 (15 centuries, best 255) in 104 matches :tick:
:eng: :bat: :goldo: Dan Lawrence (23) - 4,772 runs @ 38.48 (11 centuries, best 161) in 88 matches :tick: :c:
:eng: :wkb: :blueo: Michael Pepper (22) - 169 runs @ 18.77 (best 92) in 5 matches
:eng: :ar: :blueo: Paul Walter (27) - 895 runs @ 34.42 (best 77) in 24 matches
:eng: :bat: :goldo: Tom Westley (32) - 10,791 runs @ 35.85 (24 centuries, best 254) in 195 matches :tick: :c:

Glamorgan
:eng: :bat: :redo: Joe Cooke (24) - 170 runs @ 13.07 (best 38) in 11 matches
:eng: :ar: :redo: David Lloyd (28) - 3,478 runs @ 29.47 (4 centuries, best 117) in 77 matches
:eng: :bat: :goldo: Billy Root (28) - 2,095 runs @ 32.73 (6 centuries, best 229) in 41 matches
:eng: :bat: :blueo: Kiran Carlson (23) - 2,082 runs @ 30.61 (6 centuries, best 191) in 42 matches

Gloucestershire
:eng: :wkb: :goldo: James Bracey (24) - 2,583 runs @ 35.38 (6 centuries, best 156) in 46 matches :c:
:eng: :bat: :blueo: Ian Cockbain (34) - 2,684 runs @ 29.82 (5 centuries, best 151*) in 57 matches
:eng: :bat: :redo: Chris Dent (30) - 9,537 runs @ 37.54 (18 centuries, best 268) in 155 matches :tick:
:eng: :bat: :redo: Miles Hammond (25) - 1,211 runs @ 25.76 (2 centuries, best 123*) in 30 matches
:eng: :ar: :blueo: Ryan Higgins (26) - 2,030 runs @ 32.22 (5 centuries, best 199) in 46 matches

Hampshire
:eng: :wkb: :goldo: Tom Alsop (25) - 2,401 runs @ 27.28 (4 centuries, best 150) in 57 matches
:eng: :ar: :blueo: Liam Dawson (31) - 7,686 runs @ 33.41 (10 centuries, best 169) in 160 matches :c: (primarily as bowler)
:eng: :bat: :goldo: Sam Northeast (31) - 10,723 runs @ 38.57 (25 centuries, best 191) in 178 matches :tick:
:eng: :bat: :goldo: James Vince (30) - 10,165 runs @ 39.09 (26 centuries, best 240) in 170 matches :tick: :c:
:eng: :bat: :redo: Joe Weatherley (24) - 1,595 runs @ 24.16 (1 century, best 126*) in 44 matches

Ed Smith Country
:eng: :bat: :blueo: Dan Bell-Drummond (27) - 6,261 runs @ 31.78 (11 centuries, best 206*) in 125 matches
:eng: :wkb: :redo: Jordan Cox (20) - 829 runs @ 39.47 (1 century, best 238*) in 15 matches
:eng: :bat: :goldo: Zak Crawley (23) - 3,113 runs @ 31.13 (5 centuries, best 267) in 59 matches :c:
:eng: :bat: :goldo: Joe Denly (35) - 12,633 runs @ 36.09 (29 centuries, best 227) in 218 matches :tick: :c:
:eng: :bat: :goldo: Jack Leaning (27) - 3,598 runs @ 31.28 (6 centuries, best 220*) in 81 matches
:eng: :wk: :redo: Ollie Robinson, not that one (22) - 1,517 runs @ 32.97 (3 centuries, best 143) in 31 matches (a better keeping option than Bracey)

Lancashire
:eng: :bat: :goldo: Josh Bohannon (24) - 1,455 runs @ 44.09 (2 centuries, best 174) in 29 matches
:eng: :wk: :blueo: Jos Buttler (30) - 5,709 runs @ 33.38 (7 centuries, best 152) in 115 matches :c:
:eng: :wkb: :redo: Alex Davies (26) - 4551 runs @ 36.11 (5 centuries, best 147) in 88 matches :tick:
:eng: :bat: :redo: Keaton Jennings (28) - 7,932 runs @ 33.75 (19 centuries, best 221*) in 146 matches :c:
:eng: :bat: :blueo: Liam Livingstone (27) - 3,057 runs @ 38.69 (7 centuries, best 224) in 61 matches :tick:
:eng: :bat: :goldo: Luke Wells (30) - 7,997 runs @ 35.07 (18 centuries, best 258) in 147 matches :tick:

Leicestershire
:eng: :bat: :redo: Hassan Azad (27) - 2,120 runs @ 40.00 (5 centuries, best 144*) in 37 matches
:eng: :bat: :goldo: Harry Dearden (24) - 1,629 runs @ 21.43 (best 87) in 45 matches
:eng: :bat: :redo: Sam Evans (23) - 885 runs @ 30.51 (4 centuries, best 138) in 19 matches
:eng: :wkb: :blueo: Lewis Hill (30) - 2,058 runs @ 27.81 (2 centuries, best 126) in 49 matches
:eng: :wk: :blueo: Harry Swindells (22) - 712 runs @ 27.38 (1 century, best 103) in 20 matches

Middlesex
:eng: :bat: :goldo: Nick Gubbins (27) - 5,048 runs @ 33.65 (9 centuries, best 201*) in 85 matches
:eng: :bat: :redo: Max Holden (23) - 2,164 runs @ 26.07 (3 centuries, best 153) in 48 matches
:eng: :bat: :redo: Sam Robson (31) - 10,429 runs @ 36.98 (24 centuries, best 231) in 170 matches :tick: :c:
:eng: :wkb: :blueo: Robbie White (25) - 837 runs @ 20.92 (best 99) in 27 matches

Northamptonshire
:eng: :bat: :redo: Emilio Gay (21) - 242 runs @ 24.20 (1 century, best 101) in 8 matches
:eng: :ar: :blueo: Rob Keogh (29) - 4,196 runs @ 30.40 (11 centuries, best 221) in 91 matches
:eng: :ar: :goldo: Luke Procter (32) - 4,632 runs @ 31.29 (4 centuries, best 137) in 105 matches
:eng: :wk: :blueo: Adam Rossington (28) - 4,445 runs @ 36.13 (7 centuries, best 138*) in 87 matches :tick:
:eng: :ar: :blueo: Saif Zaib (23) - 932 runs @ 26.62 (1 century, best 135) in 27 matches

Nottinghamshire
:eng: :bat: :goldo: Joe Clarke (25) - 5,282 runs @ 37.72 (17 centuries, best 194) in 88 matches :tick: (but tainted by Hepburn case)
:eng: :wkb: :goldo: Ben Duckett (26) - 6,546 runs @ 38.96 (19 centuries, best 282*) in 103 matches :tick: :c:
:eng: :bat: :redo: Haseeb Hameed (24) - 3,694 runs @ 32.69 (7 centuries, best 122) in 75 matches :c:
:eng: :ar: :blueo: Lyndon James (22) - 417 runs @32.07 (best 79*) in 10 matches
:eng: :ar: :blueo: Steven Mullaney (34) - 8,190 runs @ 33.56 (16 centuries, best 179) in 151 matches
:eng: :bat: :redo: Ben Slater (29) - 5,576 runs @ 33.59 (9 centuries, best 172) in 96 matches

Somerset
:eng: :ar: :goldo: Tom Abell (27) - 4,876 runs @ 34.33 (8 centuries, best 135) in 89 matches
:eng: :bat: :blueo: George Bartlett (23) - 1,683 runs @ 29.01 (5 centuries, best 137) in 37 matches
:eng: :wk: :redo: Steven Davies (34) - 13,806 runs @ 38.67 (25 centuries, best 200*) in 238 matches :tick:
:eng: :ar: :blueo: Lewis Goldsworthy (20) - 149 runs @ 29.80 (best 41*) in 5 matches
:eng: :ar: :redo: Tom Lammonby (21) - 567 runs @ 31.50 (3 centuries, best 116) in 13 matches

Surrey
:eng: :bat: :redo: Rory Burns (30) - 10,468 runs @ 42.72 (21 centuries, best 219*) in 150 matches :tick: :c:
:eng: :bat: :goldo: Laurie Evans (33) - 3,480 runs @ 29.74 (6 centuries, best 213*) in 72 matches
:eng: :wk: :blueo: Ben Foakes (28) - 6,076 runs @ 37.97 (11 centuries, best 141*) in 121 matches :tick: :c:
:eng: :ar: :blueo: Will Jacks (22) - 1,020 runs @ 28.33 (1 century, best 120) in 26 matches
:eng: :bat: :redo: Ryan Patel (23) - 988 runs @ 25.33 (1 century, best 100*) in 27 matches
:eng: :wkb: :blueo: Ollie Pope (23) - 3,764 runs @ 50.86 (11 centuries, best 251) in 56 matches :tick: :c:
:eng: :wk: :goldo: Jamie Smith (20) - 1,046 runs @ 32.68 (2 centuries, best 127) in 22 matches
:eng: :bat: :redo: Mark Stoneman (33) - 11,683 @ 34.16 (24 centuries, best 197) in 202 matches :c:

Sussex
:eng: :wk: :blueo: Ben Brown (32) - 8,135 runs @ 39.11 (19 centuries, best 163) in 153 matches :tick: (WHY PICK BRACEY?)
:eng: :bat: :redo: Tom Haines (22) - 1,480 runs @ 30.20 (4 centuries, best 155) in 29 matches
:eng: :wkb: :redo: Phil Salt (24) - 1,967 runs @ 30.73 (4 centuries, best 148) in 38 matches
:eng: :ar: :redo: Aaron Thomason (23) - 613 runs @ 22.70 (best 90) in 15 matches

Warwickshire
:eng: :wk: :blueo: Michael Burgess (26) - 2,217 runs @ 35.19 (3 centuries, best 146) in 46 matches
:eng: :bat: :goldo: Sam Hain (25) - 4,517 runs @ 35.84 (10 centuries, best 208) in 88 matches :tick:
:eng: :bat: :blueo: Matthew Lamb (24) - 1,107 runs @ 27.00 (1 century, best 173) in 26 matches
:eng: :ar: :redo: Will Rhodes (26) - 3,450 runs @ 35.20 (6 centuries, best 207) in 63 matches :tick:
:eng: :bat: :redo: Dominic Sibley (25) - 5,389 runs @ 39.05 (15 centuries, best 244) in 91 matches :tick: :c:
:eng: :bat: :redo: Rob Yates (21) - 1,093 runs @ 27.32 (3 centuries, best 141) in 25 matches

Worcestershire
:eng: :ar: :goldo: Moeen Ali (33) - 11,251 runs @ 36.64 (20 centuries, best 250) in 195 matches :tick: :c:
:eng: :ar: :blueo: Brett D'Oliveira (29) - 3,485 runs @ 29.78 (8 centuries, best 202*) in 73 matches
:eng: :bat: :goldo: Tom Fell (27) - 4,437 runs @ 29.58 (6 centuries, best 171) in 93 matches
:eng: :bat: :redo: Jake Libby (28) - 3,848 runs @ 34.66 (9 centuries, best 184) in 69 matches
:eng: :bat: :blueo: Ross Whiteley (32) - 3,577 runs @ 27.09 (3 centuries, best 130*) in 89 matches

Yorkshire
:eng: :wk: :blueo: Jonny Bairstow (31) - 11,845 runs @ 42.91 (24 centuries, best 246) in 187 matches :tick: :c:
:eng: :bat: :goldo: Gary Ballance (31) - 11,547 runs @ 47.24 (40 centuries, best 210) in 165 matches :tick: :c:
:eng: :bat: :blueo: Harry Brook (22) - 1,741 runs @ 26.78 (2 centuries, best 124) in 41 matches
:eng: :bat: :redo: Tom Kohler-Cadmore (26) - 3,653 runs @ 32.32 (9 centuries, best 176) in 74 matches (also tainted by Hepburn case)
:eng: :bat: :redo: Adam Lyth (33) - 11,523 runs @ 38.28 (26 centuries, best 251) in 189 matches :tick: :c:
:eng: :bat: :goldo: Dawid Malan (33) - 11,760 runs @ 38.43 (27 centuries, best 219) in 192 matches :tick: :c:
:eng: :bat: :goldo: Joe Root (30) - 13,093 runs @ 48.13 (31 centuries, best 254) in 170 matches :tick: :c:

That's the list. That's every England-qualified top-six batsman currently getting into a county first XI, under the age of 36. So let's look a little more carefully at a list of every player who is either deemed a "sensible" selection, or has been capped by England regardless:

Opening Batsmen
:eng: :bat: :redo: Nick Browne (30) - 6,027 runs @ 37.66 (15 centuries, best 255) in 104 matches :tick:
:eng: :bat: :redo: Rory Burns (30) - 10,468 runs @ 42.72 (21 centuries, best 219*) in 150 matches :tick: :c:
:eng: :wkb: :redo: Alex Davies (26) - 4551 runs @ 36.11 (5 centuries, best 147) in 88 matches :tick:
:eng: :wk: :redo: Steven Davies (34) - 13,806 runs @ 38.67 (25 centuries, best 200*) in 238 matches :tick:
:eng: :bat: :redo: Chris Dent (30) - 9,537 runs @ 37.54 (18 centuries, best 268) in 155 matches :tick:
:eng: :bat: :redo: Haseeb Hameed (24) - 3,694 runs @ 32.69 (7 centuries, best 122) in 75 matches :c:
:eng: :bat: :redo: Keaton Jennings (28) - 7,932 runs @ 33.75 (19 centuries, best 221*) in 146 matches :c:
:eng: :bat: :redo: Alex Lees (28) - 6,971 runs @ 35.38 (17 centuries, best 275*) in 123 matches :tick:
:eng: :bat: :redo: Adam Lyth (33) - 11,523 runs @ 38.28 (26 centuries, best 251) in 189 matches :tick: :c:
:eng: :ar: :redo: Will Rhodes (26) - 3,450 runs @ 35.20 (6 centuries, best 207) in 63 matches :tick:
:eng: :bat: :redo: Sam Robson (31) - 10,429 runs @ 36.98 (24 centuries, best 231) in 170 matches :tick: :c:
:eng: :bat: :redo: Dominic Sibley (25) - 5,389 runs @ 39.05 (15 centuries, best 244) in 91 matches :tick: :c:
:eng: :bat: :redo: Mark Stoneman (33) - 11,683 @ 34.16 (24 centuries, best 197) in 202 matches :c:

Top-Order Batsmen
:eng: :ar: :goldo: Moeen Ali (33) - 11,251 runs @ 36.64 (20 centuries, best 250) in 195 matches :tick: :c:
:eng: :bat: :goldo: Gary Ballance (31) - 11,547 runs @ 47.24 (40 centuries, best 210) in 165 matches :tick: :c:
:eng: :ar: :goldo: Scott Borthwick (31) - 9,573 runs @ 35.06 (20 centuries, best 216) in 177 matches :tick::c:
:eng: :wkb: :goldo: James Bracey (24) - 2,583 runs @ 35.38 (6 centuries, best 156) in 46 matches :c:
:eng: :bat: :goldo: Joe Clarke (25) - 5,282 runs @ 37.72 (17 centuries, best 194) in 88 matches :tick: (but tainted by Hepburn case)
:eng: :bat: :goldo: Zak Crawley (23) - 3,113 runs @ 31.13 (5 centuries, best 267) in 59 matches :c:
:eng: :bat: :goldo: Joe Denly (35) - 12,633 runs @ 36.09 (29 centuries, best 227) in 218 matches :tick: :c:
:eng: :wkb: :goldo: Ben Duckett (26) - 6,546 runs @ 38.96 (19 centuries, best 282*) in 103 matches :tick: :c:
:eng: :bat: :goldo: Sam Hain (25) - 4,517 runs @ 35.84 (10 centuries, best 208) in 88 matches :tick:
:eng: :bat: :goldo: Dan Lawrence (23) - 4,772 runs @ 38.48 (11 centuries, best 161) in 88 matches :tick: :c:
:eng: :bat: :goldo: Dawid Malan (33) - 11,760 runs @ 38.43 (27 centuries, best 219) in 192 matches :tick: :c:
:eng: :bat: :goldo: Sam Northeast (31) - 10,723 runs @ 38.57 (25 centuries, best 191) in 178 matches :tick:
:eng: :bat: :goldo: Joe Root (30) - 13,093 runs @ 48.13 (31 centuries, best 254) in 170 matches :tick: :c:
:eng: :bat: :goldo: James Vince (30) - 10,165 runs @ 39.09 (26 centuries, best 240) in 170 matches :tick: :c:
:eng: :bat: :goldo: Tom Westley (32) - 10,791 runs @ 35.85 (24 centuries, best 254) in 195 matches :tick: :c:
:eng: :bat: :goldo: Luke Wells (30) - 7,997 runs @ 35.07 (18 centuries, best 258) in 147 matches :tick:

Middle-Order Batsmen
:eng: :wk: :blueo: Jonny Bairstow (31) - 11,845 runs @ 42.91 (24 centuries, best 246) in 187 matches :tick: :c:
:eng: :wk: :blueo: Ben Brown (32) - 8,135 runs @ 39.11 (19 centuries, best 163) in 153 matches :tick:
:eng: :wk: :blueo: Jos Buttler (30) - 5,709 runs @ 33.38 (7 centuries, best 152) in 115 matches :c:
:eng: :wk: :blueo: Ben Foakes (28) - 6,076 runs @ 37.97 (11 centuries, best 141*) in 121 matches :tick: :c:
:eng: :bat: :blueo: Liam Livingstone (27) - 3,057 runs @ 38.69 (7 centuries, best 224) in 61 matches :tick:
:eng: :wkb: :blueo: Ollie Pope (23) - 3,764 runs @ 50.86 (11 centuries, best 251) in 56 matches :tick: :c:
:eng: :wk: :blueo: Adam Rossington (28) - 4,445 runs @ 36.13 (7 centuries, best 138*) in 87 matches :tick:
:eng: :ar: :blueo: Ben Stokes (30) - 8,424 runs @ 35.39 (18 centuries, best 258) in 147 matches :tick: :c:

One thing that should be immediately obvious is how very few options remain untried by England: out of ten opening batsmen who could be defined as "sensible", England have tried four, as well as a further three more with sub-35 averages (Jennings, Hameed and Stoneman - though Hameed was a dominant player at the time of his selection). A similar pattern exists in the top-order selections, while the middle-order specialists are somewhat more fluid given how very unusual it would be for a middle-order county player not to be moved into the county top-four before international honours came their way.

However, we are now at the point of players being picked for England despite first-class batting averages that linger below the Chilton Line - a mark that I would consider to be the absolute baseline for a specialist batsman to justify continued selection in their county first-eleven, and absolutely not a mark that should ever be associated with international honours.

So, with that wider angle on who is available? Who perhaps should be considered for the England squad? Well, Rory Burns and Dominic Sibley are clearly the best two opening batsmen in county cricket; behind them, Nick Browne, Chris Dent and Adam Lyth all form a cluster of possible reserve options. My personal preference would be for Dent to be the reserve opener, as he appears to have the most organised technique from the county footage I have seen. In terms of openers under the age of 30, the only other vague options are Haseeb Hameed (averaging below the Chilton line), Keaton Jennings (tried and tested at Test level; did not swim) and Alex Davies (doesn't make big scores very often at all).

The top order is also a problem area. Joe Root is obviously inked in, but who else is there? The obvious stand-outs based on county form are Gary Ballance, Dawid Malan and James Vince. Both Ballance and Vince have reputations of being failures at Test level that isn't entirely backed up by the data: Gary Ballance would have the second-highest average in the England team were he to be picked, while James Vince's CricViz metrics suggested that he was unusually unfortunate compared to other batsmen. In terms of young players, there is also a small selection to choose from: James Bracey, Zak Crawley, Sam Hain and Dan Lawrence. Of those, Bracey looked horribly out-of-sorts in his recent maiden Test series, and a promotion to a more difficult batting position won't fix that. Zak Crawley averages below the Chilton Line, and without his ridiculous outlier of an innings against Pakistan, averages 19 in Tests and 29 in first-class cricket (#rootmaths). Lawrence is a current incumbent in the middle order, and Sam Hain appears to have wronged the England selectors in some sort of an extreme way.

The middle-order is a little easier to fix: Ben Stokes and Jos Buttler come back at five and six, with Foakes taking the gloves at number seven when he's fit again. Until then, Ben Brown may be a sensible back-up keeper. Beyond that, the candidates are Liam Livingstone (a very intelligent player), Ollie Pope (currently struggling desperately with his technique) and Jonny Bairstow (who probably shouldn't play Test cricket again). Also Dan Lawrence may fit here better than he fits at number three.

So, my picks for the English batting roster:

1. :eng: :bat: :redo: Rory Burns (30)
2. :eng: :bat: :redo: Dominic Sibley (25)
R. :eng: :bat: :redo: Chris Dent (30)
R. :eng: :bat: :redo: Haseeb Hameed (24)

3. :eng: :bat: :goldo: Gary Ballance (31)
4. :eng: :bat: :goldo: Joe Root (30)
R. :eng: :bat: :goldo: James Vince (30)
R. :eng: :bat: :goldo: Sam Hain (25)

5. :eng: :ar: :blueo: Ben Stokes (30)
6. :eng: :bat: :blueo: Jos Buttler (30)
R. :eng: :bat: :goldo: Dan Lawrence (23)
R. :eng: :wkb: :blueo: Ollie Pope (23)
R. :eng: :bat: :blueo: Liam Livingstone (27)

7. :eng: :wk: :blueo: Ben Foakes (28)
R. :eng: :wk: :blueo: Ben Brown (32)

The bowling at least picks itself, spinners aside:

sm. :eng: :bwl: Stuart Broad (34)
R. :eng: :bwl: Ollie Robinson (27)

sw. :eng: :bwl: Jimmy Anderson (38)
R. :eng: :ar: Chris Woakes (32)

ex. :eng: :bwl: Mark Wood (31)
R. :eng: :bwl: Ollie Stone (27)

sp. :eng: :bwl: Jack Leach (29)
R. :eng: :bwl: Matt Parkinson (24), in my opinion
 
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@Aislabie I had a look at some of these players and I have some feedback. :p This isn't a take down, I was generally interested to have a deeper dive, see what is out there and I had nothing to do until I need to go shopping. I've attached my work.

I looked at domestic records over the last four years and the last two years (although for some it's not particularly deep as a lot of players seemed to take Pandemic: Year 1 off).

Openers

Burns
and Sibley the only two in my list to average above 50 over the four years. In the last two, Burns is up there at 64.45 while Sibley only played two domestic matches. Sibley comes in top for 100s among the openers and joint second overall. Burns, second.

One metric I like to look at is how many innings per 100. Sibbo gets one every 5.4 innings, Burns every 7.3.

In the last two years is Jake Libby (who I believe is an opener) averages a pretty health 60.67, with 4 centuries. I don't know if he's on the England radar but, like Sibley, if he keeps scoring runs they will have to take notice of that form.

Chris Dent averages 26.48 in 22 innings with 0 centuries in that time. Hameed is 43.72 and 2 centuries in 19 innings.

Hameed has got a couple of centuries this year, it's good to see him back in contention but he had a torrid 2018, 2019. I'd hate to see him rushed back in a panic. If he continues doing well, and there simply has to be a change of opener after the India series, then why not throw him into the fire of an away Ashes.

Zak Crawley who falls in to this and the top order, he's fairly average. Over 4 years he averages 33.63 with 4 centuries in 67 innings. He clearly has some ability but maybe he's just going to need some time.

Top Order

Ballance
is the top order Daddy, with a century every 4.9 innings and the most in the last four years at 11. His average is lower than David Malan, who might also be considered at 3, but only a fraction. Malan does average 88.5 in the last two years, but that's from 6 innings.

James Vince is neck and neck with them, slightly lower average and a very slightly lower innings per 100 than Malan (both less than 8).

Tom Abell is probably the next best - certainly of those who haven't had a chance and been discarded. 40.3 over 4 years, rising to 51.05 in the last two (23 innings). He has 3 centuries in that time which is closer to the 7 innings per 100 of Malan and Vince (he's at 14.8 over 4 years).

Sam Hain, like his ODI record, seems to be the Joe Root understudy no one needs. He passes 50 runs more often than Dom Sibley (every 3.2 innings). But he has two centuries in his last 58 innings and 0 in the last two seasons, when he also averages 29.52.

Middle Order

No one comes close to Ollie Pope over 4 years. He averages 75.9 with 9 centuries in county cricket. And gets his hundreds every 3.9 innings. It'd hard to ignore those numbers.

Dan Lawrence is an interesting one. He looked by far and away the most competent of the young guns at Edgbaston but he has also got out player some awful shots. Over the last four years he gets a century every 20.7 innings, that's the most by anyone capped for England barring Ben Foakes. Even Zak Crawley gets one every 16.8. His average over the last two season is good at 45.64 but he only has 1 century in those 16 innings.

Liam Livingstone should stick to one day cricket. In the last four years his average is 29.63 with a 100 every 38 innings. He's averaging 12.75 in the last two seasons, but only in 8 innings.

A few more to watch could be a recalled Ben Duckett, Sam Evans, Tom Lammonby and Ben Slater. Basically anyone called Ben, Tom/Dom, Sam or Ollie stands a chance of getting picked for England, regardless of form.

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So assuming Root, Stokes and Buttler (the latter two nearly never show up in First Class cricket) are bankers. I stick with Burns and Sibley for the India series - unless it hits crisis point.

I can't, in good conscience, pick Gary Ballance. So I'll go with Malan at 3. 4-5 are locked in.

The number 6 and 7 spots are up for grabs for me and I think it will be Pope or Lawrence with Buttler at 7. Buttler is probably sound enough to be considered a batsman in his own right and has performed well recently, so I wouldn't be against him at 6 with Foakes at 7 but I just don't think England would go for that. Ben Brown is definitely a good shout as a wicket keeper batsman (I don't know his prowess with the gloves but his batting record is decent). Should the need for another keeper arise though I expect he'd be behind the Buttler, Foakes, Bairstow, Billings, Bracey, Ollie Robinson).

1 Burns
2 Sibley
3 Malan
4 Root
5 Stokes
6 Buttler
7 Foakes

There is also Moeen Ali and Jonny Bairstow. I still think Bairstow could play a part in this team, at 6 or 7, he's had a torrid time since Ed Smith arrived and I honestly don't think there are players out in county cricket (or the current England team) that will do much better.

Of course I will always back 'England's Number 7' at number 7 for England. Mr Chris Woakes.
 

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@Aislabie I had a look at some of these players and I have some feedback. :p This isn't a take down, I was generally interested to have a deeper dive, see what is out there and I had nothing to do until I need to go shopping. I've attached my work.

I looked at domestic records over the last four years and the last two years (although for some it's not particularly deep as a lot of players seemed to take Pandemic: Year 1 off).

Openers

Burns
and Sibley the only two in my list to average above 50 over the four years. In the last two, Burns is up there at 64.45 while Sibley only played two domestic matches. Sibley comes in top for 100s among the openers and joint second overall. Burns, second.

One metric I like to look at is how many innings per 100. Sibbo gets one every 5.4 innings, Burns every 7.3.

In the last two years is Jake Libby (who I believe is an opener) averages a pretty health 60.67, with 4 centuries. I don't know if he's on the England radar but, like Sibley, if he keeps scoring runs they will have to take notice of that form.

Chris Dent averages 26.48 in 22 innings with 0 centuries in that time. Hameed is 43.72 and 2 centuries in 19 innings.

Hameed has got a couple of centuries this year, it's good to see him back in contention but he had a torrid 2018, 2019. I'd hate to see him rushed back in a panic. If he continues doing well, and there simply has to be a change of opener after the India series, then why not throw him into the fire of an away Ashes.

Zak Crawley who falls in to this and the top order, he's fairly average. Over 4 years he averages 33.63 with 4 centuries in 67 innings. He clearly has some ability but maybe he's just going to need some time.

Top Order

Ballance
is the top order Daddy, with a century every 4.9 innings and the most in the last four years at 11. His average is lower than David Malan, who might also be considered at 3, but only a fraction. Malan does average 88.5 in the last two years, but that's from 6 innings.

James Vince is neck and neck with them, slightly lower average and a very slightly lower innings per 100 than Malan (both less than 8).

Tom Abell is probably the next best - certainly of those who haven't had a chance and been discarded. 40.3 over 4 years, rising to 51.05 in the last two (23 innings). He has 3 centuries in that time which is closer to the 7 innings per 100 of Malan and Vince (he's at 14.8 over 4 years).

Sam Hain, like his ODI record, seems to be the Joe Root understudy no one needs. He passes 50 runs more often than Dom Sibley (every 3.2 innings). But he has two centuries in his last 58 innings and 0 in the last two seasons, when he also averages 29.52.

Middle Order

No one comes close to Ollie Pope over 4 years. He averages 75.9 with 9 centuries in county cricket. And gets his hundreds every 3.9 innings. It'd hard to ignore those numbers.

Dan Lawrence is an interesting one. He looked by far and away the most competent of the young guns at Edgbaston but he has also got out player some awful shots. Over the last four years he gets a century every 20.7 innings, that's the most by anyone capped for England barring Ben Foakes. Even Zak Crawley gets one every 16.8. His average over the last two season is good at 45.64 but he only has 1 century in those 16 innings.

Liam Livingstone should stick to one day cricket. In the last four years his average is 29.63 with a 100 every 38 innings. He's averaging 12.75 in the last two seasons, but only in 8 innings.

A few more to watch could be a recalled Ben Duckett, Sam Evans, Tom Lammonby and Ben Slater. Basically anyone called Ben, Tom/Dom, Sam or Ollie stands a chance of getting picked for England, regardless of form.

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So assuming Root, Stokes and Buttler (the latter two nearly never show up in First Class cricket) are bankers. I stick with Burns and Sibley for the India series - unless it hits crisis point.

I can't, in good conscience, pick Gary Ballance. So I'll go with Malan at 3. 4-5 are locked in.

The number 6 and 7 spots are up for grabs for me and I think it will be Pope or Lawrence with Buttler at 7. Buttler is probably sound enough to be considered a batsman in his own right and has performed well recently, so I wouldn't be against him at 6 with Foakes at 7 but I just don't think England would go for that. Ben Brown is definitely a good shout as a wicket keeper batsman (I don't know his prowess with the gloves but his batting record is decent). Should the need for another keeper arise though I expect he'd be behind the Buttler, Foakes, Bairstow, Billings, Bracey, Ollie Robinson).

1 Burns
2 Sibley
3 Malan
4 Root
5 Stokes
6 Buttler
7 Foakes

There is also Moeen Ali and Jonny Bairstow. I still think Bairstow could play a part in this team, at 6 or 7, he's had a torrid time since Ed Smith arrived and I honestly don't think there are players out in county cricket (or the current England team) that will do much better.

Of course I will always back 'England's Number 7' at number 7 for England. Mr Chris Woakes.
Thank you for the extra effort!

I was very keen to narrow down to a shortlist but I didn't have the data to hand to properly go digging as you have, so hugely appreciate the additional information.

Concerningly, we have more or less the same team:
  1. :eng: :bat: Rory Burns
  2. :eng: :bat: Dom Sibley
  3. :eng: :bat: ???
  4. :eng: :bat: Joe Root
  5. :eng: :ar: Ben Stokes
  6. :eng: :wkb: Jos Buttler
  7. :eng: :wk: Ben Foakes
Where push comes to shove is the reserves:
  • No other openers
  • :eng: :bat: Dawid Malan
  • :eng: :bat: Gary Ballance
  • :eng: :bat: James Vince
  • :eng: :wkb: Ollie Pope
  • :eng: :bat: Dan Lawrence
You've managed to thin the crowd a little bit, getting rid of some players that I was perhaps romanticising due to enjoying watching them bat as much as anything else - or who were carried by excellent early-career numbers that had plateaued in recent years.

Unfortunately, this really does point us towards the conclusion that there is nobody else and that the players who are there had better start working really damn hard if they're going to start making Test runs.
 
Unfortunately, this really does point us towards the conclusion that there is nobody else and that the players who are there had better start working really damn hard if they're going to start making Test runs.

This, to be perfectly honest looks like it's the crux of the issue, most of them play as if its going to be easy, aside from Sibley who almost looks like he's making it too hard
 
This, to be perfectly honest looks like it's the crux of the issue, most of them play as if its going to be easy, aside from Sibley who almost looks like he's making it too hard
Yeah, it's an interesting balance.

Burns and Sibley are definitely survival-oriented, Root and Stokes are definitely scoring-oriented (even when they start slowly, they're still always looking for opportunities). That's fine - both approaches work in the right situation. The issue comes when someone like Ollie Pope comes in with all the talent in the world, and lasts for 20 balls when his team has two and a half days to find a way not to lose the Test series. And from pretty much his first shot, the entirety of that innings felt predictable.

I personally find that harder to forgive than Dan Lawrence going in and getting a first-baller by nicking off a defensive shot.
 
Yeah, it's an interesting balance.

Burns and Sibley are definitely survival-oriented, Root and Stokes are definitely scoring-oriented (even when they start slowly, they're still always looking for opportunities). That's fine - both approaches work in the right situation. The issue comes when someone like Ollie Pope comes in with all the talent in the world, and lasts for 20 balls when his team has two and a half days to find a way not to lose the Test series. And from pretty much his first shot, the entirety of that innings felt predictable.

I personally find that harder to forgive than Dan Lawrence going in and getting a first-baller by nicking off a defensive shot.

Aye it's Pope that drives me insane, bats like the game owes him runs. Plays with extreme arrogance that his stats do not allow for
 

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