England , Will they be able to pull it off in the Sub continent ?

[Stephen Bailey]

i think they played only west indies,south africa.

Played New Zealand too
As I said earlier, series we could well have lost a few years ago. Oh yeh, we also just beat Australia, but I guess that doesn't mean anything either.

Since Michael Vaughan has been in charge of the test side, we have:

Played - 32
Won - 20
Drawn - 8
Lost - 4

Not a bad record is it!

 

[sachin]

Not bad....I'll be very impressed if you can get past a full strength India.

 

[Sureshot]

But they haven't been firing on all cylinders though have they?

Saying that we weren't in the Ashes, about 20% below our best.

 

[Indiangod]

England playing superb at the moment, but they wont get past India.

 

[Reider84]

To be honest I think it will be a great series but I don't think English players or supporters should even be focusing on India at the moment.

We have a tough series ahead of us against Pakistan first and after that we will have a better indication of how we will fair against India.

 

[ronny_kingsley]

Ronny, in the away series against India that year, it was one of the weakest sides we've sent on tour, certainly in terms of bowling. In the 1st test, we had a bowling line-up of Hoggard, Ormond, Dawson, Flintoff, White and Butcher. Hardly world beating now is it.

As for the 2002 home series, it was a series contested between two pretty evenly matched teams. The England side now is way, way better than it was then, how far have India progressed since then? Not as far as England. Take a look at our bowling attack throughout that series; Hoggard, Harmison, Jones and Flintoff all played at some point and look where they are now. They make the most threatening pace attack in the world, as Australia found out. Even at The Oval, where Australia were 264-2, we still kept coming at them, and bowled them out with a lead of 6!

Just about the whole team can play spin, especially Pietersen.

Well after that India drew out a series in Australia wheras English side took a beating down under.

Also we are talking of present situation and the coming series then I think all your so called gret bowlers (ie the Harmissions,Hoggards ,Flintoffs) will be less effective than Sachin Tendulkar plainly because of the pitch conditions.

Also the substitue rule that you people adopted and got away with Ponting wont be taken by Saurav in any manner at all. People dont say it but Ganguly is one of the shrewedst captain ever.

Also admit it who are you banking on to score runs in Indian conditions ????????? Take into account this wont be home urf but Indian dustbowls

But they haven't been firing on all cylinders though have they?

Saying that we weren't in the Ashes, about 20% below our best.

And Aussies were only 20 % of thier own self.

 

[themuel1]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/4258436.stm

Have a look there guys. Is Loudon a good player?

 

[Steve Moore]

I think they just picked him cause he says he's got a doosra...
he bowled one in the C&G final... shite

 

[Pace-Ace]

England have a tough season ahead of them. Winning the ashes doesn't make them the world champs. Pakistan will probably win in the odis but im not confident that they'll win the tests. India will be tougher in tests but im sure england can beat them in odis unless tendulkar has a say in it!

 

[Stephen Bailey]

Well after that India drew out a series in Australia wheras English side took a beating down under.

Ofcourse the attack you faced was of fantastic quality - Lee, Bracken, MacGill, Williams and a less than fit Jason Gillespie. Our last Aussie tour was a disgrace. The injuries we suffered were of farcical proportions. To add to that we faced, McGrath, an inform and fit Gillespie and Warne. But, in the one game where Warne and McGrath didn't play, we won.

Also we are talking of present situation and the coming series then I think all your so called gret bowlers (ie the Harmissions,Hoggards ,Flintoffs) will be less effective than Sachin Tendulkar plainly because of the pitch conditions.

Hoggard, Flintoff and Giles were on the last tour and all did reasonably well and they've improved alot since then, particularly Flintoff. I think Ashley Giles has a key role to play, he's done well on the sub-continent tours he's been involved in, particularly Sri Lanka 2003 with 18 wickets.

Also the substitue rule that you people adopted and got away with Ponting wont be taken by Saurav in any manner at all. People dont say it but Ganguly is one of the shrewedst captain ever.

Not entirely sure how this effected the Ashes series, really not bothered if the rule is changed or not. The only time a sub made a big impact was when he was genuinely needed on the field.

Also admit it who are you banking on to score runs in Indian conditions ????????? Take into account this wont be home urf but Indian dustbowls

I am taking into account what pitches you'll be preparing and i'm saying we will be able to play on them. We have players capable of playing quality spin bowling like Pietersen, Vaughan, Trescothick and Flintoff. Not only can they play spin, but they could take a spinner apart.

 

[Indiangod]

If they going to beat India in India, then getting them out with spin wont work. People might think India has a problem with fast bowling which is true, but they have improved, and in India the ball dont bounce as much, and not a great deal of pace in the pitches as well. I think India should play 3 spinners and just the lone pace bowler, that tatics been succesful evreytime they've tried it.

 

[SaiSrini]

If they going to beat India in India, then getting them out with spin wont work. People might think India has a problem with fast bowling which is true, but they have improved, and in India the ball dont bounce as much, and not a great deal of pace in the pitches as well. I think India should play 3 spinners and just the lone pace bowler, that tatics been succesful evreytime they've tried it.

No way! Two spinners and two seamers are the best bet! Imagine if the likes of Pietersen and Flintoff start carting the spinners all over the park, we need the seamers to come in and stem the flow. And if the spinners succeed, we have Tendulkar and Sehwag to cash in on the success that the spinners get over England!

So it would be Harbhajan and Kumble with Pathan and any other seamer (most probably, Balaji!)

 

[Mahesh Babu]

No way! Two spinners and two seamers are the best bet! Imagine if the likes of Pietersen and Flintoff start carting the spinners all over the park, we need the seamers to come in and stem the flow. And if the spinners succeed, we have Tendulkar and Sehwag to cash in on the success that the spinners get over England!

So it would be Harbhajan and Kumble with Pathan and any other seamer (most probably, Balaji!)

Australia use only one spinner and as you know they are the best team in the world.Its the seamers who are effective than spinners.Its bcoz of people like you India is not progressing.See all the teams as of now are concentrating on mainly on good seamers.If India has to win matches outside India then there must be some quality pace bowlers.We have not been producing great fast bowlers.We want one more Kapil Dev

Pathan - looks promising
Z Kahn - Inconsistent
A Nehra - Has the required talent
Balaji - Always rested
(Indai doesnt have an experienced quality/aggressive bowler still?)

See other teams
Australia - Mcgrath,gillespie,lee,kasprowicz
England - Harmison,Hoggard,Flintoff,Simon Jones
South Africa - Pollock,Ntini,Nel,Kallis
NZ - Bond,Mills,Oram,Tuffey

 

[SaiSrini]

Australia use only one spinner and as you know they are the best team in the world.Its the seamers who are effective than spinners.Its bcoz of people like you India is not progressing.See all the teams as of now are concentrating on mainly on good seamers.If India has to win matches outside India then there must be some quality pace bowlers.We have not been producing great fast bowlers.We want one more Kapil Dev

Pathan - looks promising
Z Kahn - Inconsistent
A Nehra - Has the required talent
Balaji - Always rested
(Indai doesnt have an experienced quality/aggressive bowler still?)

See other teams
Australia - Mcgrath,gillespie,lee,kasprowicz
England - Harmison,Hoggard,Flintoff,Simon Jones
South Africa - Pollock,Ntini,Nel,Kallis
NZ - Bond,Mills,Oram,Tuffey

Hello Sir, these teams that you mention are playing to their strengths - i.e. the seamers! our strength is spin! As much as seam bowling is important, spin is also important!

And stop this bias against spin bowling! You seem to be insulting the art of spin! We have the required fast bowlers to bowl for us in conditions abroad. On home pitches, India HAS TO PLAY 2 SPINNERS!

If you dont agree, get lost!

 

[Stephen Bailey]

Hello Sir, these teams that you mention are playing to their strengths - i.e. the seamers! our strength is spin! As much as seam bowling is important, spin is also important!

And stop this bias against spin bowling! You seem to be insulting the art of spin! We have the required fast bowlers to bowl for us in conditions abroad. On home pitches, India HAS TO PLAY 2 SPINNERS!

If you dont agree, get lost!

I actually think he makes a good point. Whilst I agree that teams should play to their strength's, India needs to develope some world class seamer's, especially away from home. Just as England could do with a quality spinner for these sorts of tours.