I wish some other arab comes over and buys United from Glazers and keep City where they should be :P
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I wish some other arab comes over and buys United from Glazers and keep City where they should be :P
MasterBlaster76
ICC Chairman
Well, this Qatar Royal Family thing keeps cropping up - I am sure we'll be bought out before too long. In any case, UEFA's Financial Fair play rules are going to mess City up - how much was their loss over the past couple of years - ?300m+ ?
Not to say that I like the way things are going in football with these takeovers, but if it's a case of being taken over and getting rid of these damn Americans, or being left behind, I know what I'll choose.
You can't stop thinking as a Utd fan about the time in the early Nineties when Rupert Murdoch attempted a takeover and Utd blocked it. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
@Lanc666 - there's only one Sir Alex.
Not to say that I like the way things are going in football with these takeovers, but if it's a case of being taken over and getting rid of these damn Americans, or being left behind, I know what I'll choose.
You can't stop thinking as a Utd fan about the time in the early Nineties when Rupert Murdoch attempted a takeover and Utd blocked it. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
@Lanc666 - there's only one Sir Alex.
lancashire666
International Coach
Wasn't there some rule about Murdock not being able to invest money in united due to his company being the tv media outlet and therefore having a financial link with every club in the premier league?
I seem to remember there being a discussion in the house of lords about it being illegal or something.
I was just glad it didn't happen! Imagin the highest grossing club with the power of Murdock behind them! Scary.
I seem to remember there being a discussion in the house of lords about it being illegal or something.
I was just glad it didn't happen! Imagin the highest grossing club with the power of Murdock behind them! Scary.
MasterBlaster76
ICC Chairman
Could be - I can't remember the specifics. Either way, we need to get rid of the Glazers as soon as possible. Utd should be attracting the world's best players - and right now we're not.
puddleduck
Chairman of Selectors
No English club is because as a nation we take more of their wages than Spain, Italy and Germany (Russia as well I guess). It's why so many of the mid to top players are avoiding England these days.
MasterBlaster76
ICC Chairman
Well, had we been in our previous financial position - pre Glazers -we could've gone head to head with City for David Silva for example. You say English club is attracting the top players - what about City? It's natural, after all, we all know what money grabbing mercenaries most players are and City is where the money is now, thanks to that damn Sheikh.
City deliberately inflating wages has made it difficult for others to compete in the market.
They're the only side in the world who could spend ?25m on a striker and then loan him out while still paying ?5m of his wages.
They're the only side in the world who could spend ?25m on a striker and then loan him out while still paying ?5m of his wages.
puddleduck
Chairman of Selectors
Thing is, the big players aren't really going to City in terms of World Wide. They got Silva, because neither of the big two Spanish clubs wanted him (I'm sure Real and Barca would take him now though) Yaya Toure has his brother there and was no longer wanted at Barcelona.
The big players in the Premiership at the moment, Modric was bought as a bit of an unknown, RVP was bought years ago, Silva and Yaya have been mentioned. Leading scorers like Demba Ba were hardly big players in demand. Bale and Rooney are domestic players (and indeed two that may go abroad at some point, I believe Bale one day wants to play in Spain).
The recent big money moves, Torres for 50m, Carroll for 30m, De Gea for 18m. Ronaldo out, Xabi Alonso out, Cesc Fabregas out. Essentially, Man City have brought in pretty well from the players that Barca and Real wouldn't want. It's them against the likes of Bayern, Inter, Juve, AC in terms of their ability to offer massive wages versus the climate, culture, smaller taxes and potential trophies of those. Then, Man U are almost in their own zone at the moment, wherein they were where Man City were, but due to being able to be trumped for wages everytime, perhaps exist in a market above the rest of Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal, the big Russian clubs with massive wage bills.
Basically players that aren't born in England and aren't constantly bombarbed by the Sky Sports cannons of Super Sunday, Soccer Saturday, life and death headlines and being constantly told that what you are watching is the most exciting league in the world. These players don't all dream of playing at Old Trafford, or Stamford Bridge. To them the chance to go run out at the San Siro, in front of 80,000 Bayern fans, or live a life of extravagant wealth in Russia.
At the moment, it's not that easy for English clubs to attract players in from the highest tables. People like Goetze, Neymar etc get linked constantly to English clubs in the press that people believe they're going. In reality, they've got tons of options, and are in no hurry to commit themselves.
The big players in the Premiership at the moment, Modric was bought as a bit of an unknown, RVP was bought years ago, Silva and Yaya have been mentioned. Leading scorers like Demba Ba were hardly big players in demand. Bale and Rooney are domestic players (and indeed two that may go abroad at some point, I believe Bale one day wants to play in Spain).
The recent big money moves, Torres for 50m, Carroll for 30m, De Gea for 18m. Ronaldo out, Xabi Alonso out, Cesc Fabregas out. Essentially, Man City have brought in pretty well from the players that Barca and Real wouldn't want. It's them against the likes of Bayern, Inter, Juve, AC in terms of their ability to offer massive wages versus the climate, culture, smaller taxes and potential trophies of those. Then, Man U are almost in their own zone at the moment, wherein they were where Man City were, but due to being able to be trumped for wages everytime, perhaps exist in a market above the rest of Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal, the big Russian clubs with massive wage bills.
Basically players that aren't born in England and aren't constantly bombarbed by the Sky Sports cannons of Super Sunday, Soccer Saturday, life and death headlines and being constantly told that what you are watching is the most exciting league in the world. These players don't all dream of playing at Old Trafford, or Stamford Bridge. To them the chance to go run out at the San Siro, in front of 80,000 Bayern fans, or live a life of extravagant wealth in Russia.
At the moment, it's not that easy for English clubs to attract players in from the highest tables. People like Goetze, Neymar etc get linked constantly to English clubs in the press that people believe they're going. In reality, they've got tons of options, and are in no hurry to commit themselves.
thedon5
Panel of Selectors
Hazard is going to an English club...
Interesting. My gut feeling is Chelsea or Liverpool. He wants to walk into first-team football immediately so City is unlikely (unless he gets tempted by the wages). I doubt Spurs would be that interested with someone like Bale at left wing. United have Nani, Valencia and Young, and the gap in midfield is a great one. Arsenal will never spend over 20 m on a player (even 15 m is big).
Liverpool need someone up front who can contribute. After the failure of Downing to live up to expectation Hazard could fill the void. Mata is great at left wing, but he would thrive if he were to roam around behind the main striker as well. Hazard could take his place.
Still, United, Spurs and City are always possibilites.
Interesting. My gut feeling is Chelsea or Liverpool. He wants to walk into first-team football immediately so City is unlikely (unless he gets tempted by the wages). I doubt Spurs would be that interested with someone like Bale at left wing. United have Nani, Valencia and Young, and the gap in midfield is a great one. Arsenal will never spend over 20 m on a player (even 15 m is big).
Liverpool need someone up front who can contribute. After the failure of Downing to live up to expectation Hazard could fill the void. Mata is great at left wing, but he would thrive if he were to roam around behind the main striker as well. Hazard could take his place.
Still, United, Spurs and City are always possibilites.
puddleduck
Chairman of Selectors
As is the fact that he ends up at Bayern or Inter
Just because all British press constantly tells us players are coming to England does not make it true.
That said, French players are often more inclined than any other nation to make the move to England. Though the very best of them leave before their prime having been toughened up by getting kicked constantly for 3 years haha
Just because all British press constantly tells us players are coming to England does not make it true.
That said, French players are often more inclined than any other nation to make the move to England. Though the very best of them leave before their prime having been toughened up by getting kicked constantly for 3 years haha
MasterBlaster76
ICC Chairman
Yeah, well hopefully the new UEFA Financial rules will put a stop to their little game before too long. They won't be able to keep racking up huge losses each year the way they are now!
Lee1981
International Coach
Must admit i'm getting bored of all the city sniping here.
It all boils down to jealousy, simple.
What football fan would not want to have the bottom less pit of money city have,,?
It's there time now, as chelsea we had ours, we bought the title and i couldn't careless, without romans money we would be like villa or everton,,,,, no offence..
Its a simple combination ,,most money= success,,, ok in about 5% there can be an exception.
Look across europe in italy, spain, germany, france and yes scotland,, richest clubs up the top..
Man utd have been at the top for so long due first of all for having the ability to pay the biggest fee's and wages, then Blackburn came in with the money and competed, then again most recently chelsea..
So stop moaning, there is nothing we can do about it, its only a game of football, what does it really matter???
Good luck to you city, buy that title,, you are doing nothing wrong..
It all boils down to jealousy, simple.
What football fan would not want to have the bottom less pit of money city have,,?
It's there time now, as chelsea we had ours, we bought the title and i couldn't careless, without romans money we would be like villa or everton,,,,, no offence..
Its a simple combination ,,most money= success,,, ok in about 5% there can be an exception.
Look across europe in italy, spain, germany, france and yes scotland,, richest clubs up the top..
Man utd have been at the top for so long due first of all for having the ability to pay the biggest fee's and wages, then Blackburn came in with the money and competed, then again most recently chelsea..
So stop moaning, there is nothing we can do about it, its only a game of football, what does it really matter???
Good luck to you city, buy that title,, you are doing nothing wrong..
thedon5
Panel of Selectors
As is the fact that he ends up at Bayern or Inter
Just because all British press constantly tells us players are coming to England does not make it true.
That said, French players are often more inclined than any other nation to make the move to England. Though the very best of them leave before their prime having been toughened up by getting kicked constantly for 3 years haha
He himself said it, and he has said before he is most interested in the Premier League move.
I doubt he'll go to Bayern or Inter. 99% sure.
He's Belgian btw
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Dr. Pepper
Chairman of Selectors
Pizzaro is a superb signing for Man City. I've been saying that all they really need is a deep-lying playmaker and they have that in Pizzaro now.
MasterBlaster76
ICC Chairman
Greeeeaaaaaatt!
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Mate, it's Tottenham's time more than City's. Or Aston Villa's. Or several other Premiership teams. My point is before this takeover, City were nowhere, whereas Chelsea were already knocking at the door. And Utd being at the top because of being able to pay fees and wages wasn't dropped in our lap, we had to build it up over many years.
Still, enjoy it while it lasts, City because unless you can sort out these losses you're posting each year, it won't last long.
As for City not doing anything wrong? They're almost singlehandedly ruining English football. Unless something is done, and they find a way round the Financial rules, we'll have a situation where they're so far ahead of anyone, it'll be the world's most boring league. Sure, Utd win the league a lot, but there's usually one, or two teams pushing us all the way. As I said before, these new owners couldn't care less about English football. We badly need a new foreigner rule to make clubs like City unable to just cherry pick who they bloody well want and put more into their academies!
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