Football Transfers Thread

[MasterBlaster76]

Must be tough being able to just lay down 7m on a complete punt. Everton had to save for a decade to buy Jelavic (I think Kenwright is putting in an extra shift at Tescos just to pay his wages).

Any money spent is just dragging the club deeper and deeper into debt though. This year alone, the Gormless Ones have cost the club ?71m. That's two or even three marquee signings right there!

 

[puddleduck]

So essentially then, it boils down to the fact you're jealous of Man City

 

[Themer]

The Glazers also increased Uniteds profits by nearly ?50 million last season, and I'd wager theyll have increased then even further by this. So looking at it that way they aren't costing quite as much as you're making out. I don't see why there's such a veciferous Anti-Glazer movement. They appear to be running the club quote well from a commercial view point.

 

[Haarithan]

Guillem Ballague's timeline on twitter is getting increasingly interesting. Torres has all but openly said he wants out from Chelsea in his latest interview with Ballague.

Bebe.... what a disaster that was!!!

Only this video comes to mind

 

[MasterBlaster76]

What in the name of God did Sir Alex see in him? Must have been something - but whatever it was, it went missing when we signed him.

 

[ste_mc_efc]

Must be tough being able to just lay down 7m on a complete punt. Everton had to save for a decade to buy Jelavic (I think Kenwright is putting in an extra shift at Tescos just to pay his wages).

no we didn't. we just had to sell about 16 million pounds worth of players to sign him for 5 million.

 

[MasterBlaster76]

So essentially then, it boils down to the fact you're jealous of Man City

Before the Glazers came, we were regularly attracting top players in the world, although we didn't always sign them. That's what I'm annoyed about.

The Glazers also increased Uniteds profits by nearly ?50 million last season, and I'd wager theyll have increased then even further by this. So looking at it that way they aren't costing quite as much as you're making out. I don't see why there's such a veciferous Anti-Glazer movement. They appear to be running the club quote well from a commercial view point.

You want to know why there's such a vociferous Anti-Glazer movement? The ?500m+ debt they saddled us with might have something to do with it.

 

[puddleduck]

Have you considered that England itself isn't that attractive to a lot of big players. They get taxed more, the culture is fairly basic, and the weather is crap... Coupled with the fact City offer just as many chances to win trophies and earn big money I think you'll find it's not necessarily the Glazer's who are to blame for Man U not snapping up everyone.

You spend an incredible amount of time blaming a lot of people for Man U not having a monopoly of English football...

I found this quite an interesting read - Glazers Not to Blame for Manchester United?s Trouble | Premier League blog, soccer news and football shirts from EPL Talk

 

[Bevab]

Barcelona Interested In Nilmar

Fabinski Hopes To Quit Arsenal

Corinithins Prepare Loan Offer For Pato

Don't trust goal.com. Never ever trust it. Pato loan offer? Lol.


United need to look at the players who under-performed rather than call for the heads of the Glazers!

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United still did not sell Bebe? That's amazing.

 

[MasterBlaster76]

Have you considered that England itself isn't that attractive to a lot of big players. They get taxed more, the culture is fairly basic, and the weather is crap... Coupled with the fact City offer just as many chances to win trophies and earn big money I think you'll find it's not necessarily the Glazer's who are to blame for Man U not snapping up everyone.

You spend an incredible amount of time blaming a lot of people for Man U not having a monopoly of English football...

I found this quite an interesting read - Glazers Not to Blame for Manchester United?s Trouble | Premier League blog, soccer news and football shirts from EPL Talk

When United have won trophies in the past, Sir Alex Ferguson and his players garnered all the praise, with no mention of the Glazers. Yet, when the difficulties arise, the owners are tossed to fire, with Ferguson made to look almost like a victim. This double standard should not exist.

What - so the guy who wrote the article reckons that if the Glazers hadn't come along, we wouldn't be winning??? We're winning despite them, not because of them. If you come along and saddle a club with ?500m+ debt, a club that before you showed up was doing very well thank you, that's a bad thing and there is no looking past that.

No, it's not the Glazers fault that we were crap in Europe, neither was it their fault that we imploded tactically at the end of this year's Premiership season - but the club's financial situation is most certainly their fault - there's no denying that. It's got nothing to do with having a monopoly over English football - it's got to do with being in a great financial situation and being put in a bad one.

Still, knowing Sir Alex, he'll construct yet another Utd team that will go on to win many more trophies. Some people might think this season was a disaster for Utd because we didn't win anything, but I'm not one of them - apart from Europe, that was as disastrous as it comes. As I've said repeatedly, when it all comes down to it, we lost the league by two minutes and I'm very confident we'll bounce back with style next season. We don't need to dismantle the squad - just make one or two sensible additions.

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Don't trust goal.com. Never ever trust it. Pato loan offer? Lol.


United need to look at the players who under-performed rather than call for the heads of the Glazers!

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United still did not sell Bebe? That's amazing.

I had no idea we've still got Bebe on the books, that is indeed mind-boggling.

Sure, some of our players did underperform, but it was a freakish and out of character tactical implosion that really cost us this year. Still, next season we'll have Vidic back, De Gea will have got his first season under his belt and will be more confident for the whole season and there should be one or two additions. Deadwood like Bebe however should go!

If Utd had won the league, would anyone be going on about Man City underperforming?

 

[puddleduck]

But you also make more profit now, so do you not see the long term benefits that in clearing that debt you will then be making more money?

Also he doesn't suggest what you said, you've completely missed that point yet again applying your black or white viewpoint to it. This is highlighted by you then reversing your own misinterpretation of the point by saying you are winning inspite of them. There are plenty of shades in grey in life

 

[Themer]

but the club's financial situation is most certainly their fault

So it's their fault United are showing record profits?

Damn those pesky Glazers!

 

[puddleduck]

Another issue is people use statistics to say what they want. So if someone is anti-Glazer they will post numbers that support them. They'll post financial reports that ignore incoming revenue streams and marginalise certain achievements whilst gloryfying perceived failures.

 

[MasterBlaster76]

But you also make more profit now, so do you not see the long term benefits that in clearing that debt you will then be making more money?

Also he doesn't suggest what you said, you've completely missed that point yet again applying your black or white viewpoint to it. This is highlighted by you then reversing your own misinterpretation of the point by saying you are winning inspite of them. There are plenty of shades in grey in life

So it's their fault United are showing record profits?

Damn those pesky Glazers!

Look, when the day comes that Utd are in the black, I won't have a thing to say about the Glazers.

 

[puddleduck]

So it's their fault United are showing record profits?

Damn those pesky Glazers!

And this inspite of Ferguson getting them dumped out of the Champs league and costing the club about 25m in lost income