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Coincidentally just a couple days ago i saw his vid on youtube. Unique action, look effortlessly lethal.
 
I have no idea, I just tried to embed it with disasterous consequences.

aside from missing the point that england were pumped in the last world cup we spend more money on cricket than rugby as well, so why he's gurning about the cash I'm not sure.
 
The English Rugby team have done better than the cricket team did - not saying much admittedly, but getting knocked out in the pools in a group that includes Wales and Australia isn't overly embarrassing. They've been better than South Africa imo - they may have smashed Scotland but that was a case of "two bad teams" more than anything else IMO

I could go into a big rant about the Cricket World Cup again but I'm not going to. Instead I'll leave you with the greatest sports moment of 2015, and the end of one of the greatest upsets in sports history - Cricket could have stuff like this and grow the game, instead they decide that they don't need anyone outside eight of the worlds nations to play their sport...


Just going to tag @Markkkkk because it seems appropriate ;)
 
Luckily @IceAgeComing I have progessively stopped following SA rugby since Meyer took over, but yea that was a terrible match but saying South Africa have been worse then England is a little bit of an exageration but we'll see who does better in the quaterfinals... Oh wait...
 
Markkkkk said:
Luckily @IceAgeComing I have progessively stopped following SA rugby since Meyer took over, but yea that was a terrible match but saying South Africa have been worse then England is a little bit of an exageration but we'll see who does better in the quaterfinals... Oh wait...
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South Africa has had a much, much easier group though: getting through Scotland and Japan should be easier than getting through Australia and Wales. It'll most probably be South Africa and Scotland that go through which is a shame: although anything is still mathematically possible and Scotland (or South Africa for that matter) could still embarrass themselves against Samoa or the USA and let Japan qualify...

Look at what you've made me do, be on the side of the English Rugby team!!!!
 
Tendulkar-Warne exhibition T20s in November | Cricket | ESPN Cricinfo

The Warne Tendulkar League gets dates and venues.

Nov 7 - New York, Citi Field
Nov 11 - Houston, Minute Maid Park
Nov 14 - LA, Dodger Stadium (Night Game)

List of Participating players besides SRT (Team Blasters) and Warne (Team Warriors)

India - Sachin Tendulkar, Sourav Ganguly, VVS Laxman, Ajit Agarkar

Australia - Shane Warne, Ricky Ponting, Matthew Hayden, Glenn McGrath, Brad Haddin

South Africa - Jacques Kallis, Shaun Pollock, Lance Klusener, Jonty Rhodes, Allan Donald

England - Graeme Swann, Michael Vaughan

West Indies - Brian Lara, Courtney Walsh, Curtly Ambrose

Sri Lanka- Kumar Sangakkara, Muttiah Muralitharan, Mahela Jayawardene

Pakistan- Wasim Akram, Shoaib Akhtar, Saqlain Mushtaq, Moin Khan
 
Now need to figure out where to book the tickets from
 
IceAgeComing said:
South Africa has had a much, much easier group though: getting through Scotland and Japan should be easier than getting through Australia and Wales. It'll most probably be South Africa and Scotland that go through which is a shame: although anything is still mathematically possible and Scotland (or South Africa for that matter) could still embarrass themselves against Samoa or the USA and let Japan qualify...

Look at what you've made me do, be on the side of the English Rugby team!!!!
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I do sincerely apologize for making you fend for English rugby but sadly I disagree with you. Although I would equally love it if South Africa didn't make it through (just to see all the pure Afrikaaners crying in the streets) but they most likely will. Even though they had 'easier opponents' they still beat them and you can only beat what is in front of you. Now I'm not saying that SA played better than England but I think its hard to argue that a side going through to the quarters is worse then a side knocked out with a game left in the group. At most you can say two equally awful teams but one of them got the short straw...
 
Just going back to this Warne-Tendulkar thing for a little bit: they've announced locations, dates and pricing for them. Early November in New York, Houston and LA. They've come to their senses about playing Cricket in Chicago in November so they've moved it to Houston. They've also got the scheduling right for New York: there's nothing on in New York the day they are playing so if they marketed it well and set the ticket price at the right level they'd get a decent crowd in a place like New York. They've got competition in Houston and almost everything against then in LA (the NHL Kings, the NBA Clippers, and UCLA's College Football team are all at home) and in Houston they are playing at 2pm on a Wednesday night and you don't fill grounds for ODIs in cricket playing countries at that time: never mind masters games in America. Unfortunately they're charging ridiculous prices for tickets: 90% of the seats at Dodgers Stadium are over $100 which is a fair amount more than they are charging for most of the MLB post-season games this year: and the only seats that are at the cheaper levels are places where you'd barely see anything. That's going to be a huge turnoff for average Americans who may be interested in the idea of this but aren't going to pay the extreme prices that they are arguing for. Compared to other ventures of this type (I'm thinking of the All Blacks/USA Rugby Test played this year) the prices were a lot more competitive and they got a very good crowd (16,000 people): and that was to see the best international team in the world play the USA: and not a bunch of retired players. They'd actually probably make more if they charged less - there's a load of hidden costs in there: $10+ processing fees, parking is over $20 and then you have drinks and the like at the game - they're treating it like a Baseball game.

What annoys me is that this isn't going to work for the thing that Warne and the ICC are saying it will (developing the game in America): you'll get a few rich ex-pats to watch but that's it because its too damn expensive. They've taken something which would sell incredibly well in England or Australia or India and assumed that it would work in America, when it won't because outside of perhaps Tendulkar none of the players are in any way famous. I love the idea of a Wrigley Field or a Fenway Park hosting a Cricket game but I'd like it to be in summer (sadly an impossible prospect considering the MLB regular season schedule unless you squeezed it in during the all-star break and gave the hosting team a few away series either side - its a lot harder to host Cricket than something like Football considering the need to drop in a pitch before and remove it afterwards) and it should be a game that matters following appropriate grass-roots development. Getting the game into high schools and colleges is the only real way to grow the sport in America: and that's a very long term process and isn't exactly going to displace any of the big four any time soon. There is a role for big games featuring famous people. Of course the number 1 thing you need is a competent governing authority which the USACA most definitely isn't: and they should be replaced instantly. An American team that was fairly strong (I'm talking top-tier Associate level) would be a huge plus for World Cricket and Americans would show up to watch their team if it was marketed appropriately but that's years away, and this sort of all-star thing isn't going to work.

I still maintain that this is the equivalent of getting Derek Jeter and his pals to host a few baseball games at Lords in November and charging people significantly more than what they'd pay to see a day of a Test Match and then assume that it would make Baseball a thing in Britain: its ridiculous! If they are on television (which I don't think is definite: I can't see who'd buy the American rights although there's definitely a market for it in India because of a certain batsman) then I'll give it a watch just for the oddness of watching Cricket at Citi Field, but I don't think that it'll be anything special nor at all successful.

It should also be said that Cricinfo's American correspondent and the head of the ACF (the American Cricket Federation, the USACAs "rival" who seem to be trying to do the grassroots thing and target beyond the ex-pat population which the USACA never has) along with most of the other American Cricket journalists around think that this is a waste of time that won't do anything. Also my American pal who's a Mets fan doesn't like the fact that they are digging up half of Citi Field days after they might win the World Series there and that is actually a factor that might make things tight. The AL have home advantage so Citi Field's last potential game (ignoring the prospect of rain which is a factor since they don't end post-season games early because of rain but suspend them and run them to conclusion) is a week before and a potential game 7 (which might be in the Houston or LA stadium since they plan to play in the Astros' and Dodgers' ballparks) is three days before the first game in New York: and victory celebrations and the like might interfere with the preparation of the pitches...
 
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