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Am i the only one who misses the ODI tournaments in Sharjah from the 90s?
 
Am i the only one who misses the ODI tournaments in Sharjah from the 90s?

I miss those tri-series and quadrangulars in general. Sharjah and Indo-Pak cricket of 90s was pure gold. I don`t know if its just nostalgia but I feel like some of the charm of the 90s till the 2003 World Cup has been lost for me. This despite India`s success rate in both tests and ODIs having gone up dramatically post 2000. In fact, I would go to the extent of saying that I cherish India`s 2003 WC run to the finals more than the WC win in 2011.
 
Don't talk nonsense. The BCCI doesn't need to alter anything. It funds a vast majority of the revenue cricket generates and obviously they will get priority on some matters. I have no interest to support the BCCI because I think it's a corrupt governing body but there is no question that they have looked after our cricketers and cricketers around the globe really well. In layman's terms, people don't fear taking cricket up as a profession anymore because of the IPL. The facilities are fantastic and I don't understand why boards around the world act so sour about their cricketers making a quick buck. They also learn an awful lot because of the league and if standards in limited overs cricket have gone up in the past 10 years, I'd say the IPL has contributed a HUGE amount to it. It is also a big reason why Pakistan totally suck at the format. They're frankly like headless chickens without an opportunity to learn.

I like to call a spade a spade and while the money laundering, betting, facilities for spectators at grounds and banning of Pakistan from the league is spit worthy, the standard of cricket, facilities and player welfare is world class.
Quoting it here because it makes more sense.

First of all, yes, the BCCI has done a great job with paying the players what they deserve, but i wouldn't say "around the globe", but just in India, and some players who are good enough to be picked in the IPL.
Secondly, just because India has more fans than the other 9 countries combined, which is only thanks to the fact that they have a larger population, i don't think the BCCI should be able to do whatever they want, but that's just my point of view, not much to do with what you said.
As far as i know, cricket was played as a profession for almost 100 years before the IPL was invented, so i don't really get your argument.
I'd like you to show a bit more respect for my country's T20 team, becuase they don't deserve to be called headless chickens, considering they comprehensively beat the T20 World champions in a 3 match series, and that shows that they're not a bad team at all, whether you agree or not. A bit irrelevant, but i'd like to remind you that India were dragged into the WT20 knockouts by a combination of brainless Bangladeshis and Virat Kohli.
You call the money laundering, betting, facilities for spectators at grounds and banning of Pakistan from the league spit worthy, yet praise the IPL like it's responsible for everything good in world cricket, which is a bit hypocritical in my view.
As an end note, i'd just like to say that i don't expect India to allow Pakistanis to play in the league, especially considering they're governed by a far-right party, but just because we don't play in it, it doesn't mean that that's the only reason why we haven't done well from 2012 to 2016 in T20Is.
 
Just saw Stuart Broad's and Joe Roots All time 11. Matt Prior is a bit stretch.
You made want to post my All Time XI (only those I've watched)

:aus: Matthew Hayden
:saf: Graeme Smith :c:
:aus: Ricky Ponting
:ind: Sachin Tendulkar
:wi: Brian Lara
:saf: Shaun Pollock / :pak: Inzamam-ul-Haq
:aus: Adam Gilchrist :wkb:
:aus: Shane Warne
:saf: Dale Steyn
:aus: Glenn McGrath
:sri: Muttiah Muralitharan

Can't decide between Inzi and Pollock. Heart says Inzi, brain says Pollock. Younis Khan and Amla are really unlucky to miss out.
 
You made want to post my All Time XI (only those I've watched)

:aus: Matthew Hayden
:saf: Graeme Smith :c:
:aus: Ricky Ponting
:ind: Sachin Tendulkar
:wi: Brian Lara
:saf: Shaun Pollock / :pak: Inzamam-ul-Haq
:aus: Adam Gilchrist :wkb:
:aus: Shane Warne
:saf: Dale Steyn
:aus: Glenn McGrath
:sri: Muttiah Muralitharan

Can't decide between Inzi and Pollock. Heart says Inzi, brain says Pollock. Younis Khan and Amla are really unlucky to miss out.
Shaun Pollock will be more likely better as he can be the fifth bowler.
 
Oh wow. It's been ages since I saw a quadrangular series. Sharjah anyone?
 
Quoting it here because it makes more sense.

First of all, yes, the BCCI has done a great job with paying the players what they deserve, but i wouldn't say "around the globe", but just in India, and some players who are good enough to be picked in the IPL.
Secondly, just because India has more fans than the other 9 countries combined, which is only thanks to the fact that they have a larger population, i don't think the BCCI should be able to do whatever they want, but that's just my point of view, not much to do with what you said.
As far as i know, cricket was played as a profession for almost 100 years before the IPL was invented, so i don't really get your argument.
I'd like you to show a bit more respect for my country's T20 team, becuase they don't deserve to be called headless chickens, considering they comprehensively beat the T20 World champions in a 3 match series, and that shows that they're not a bad team at all, whether you agree or not. A bit irrelevant, but i'd like to remind you that India were dragged into the WT20 knockouts by a combination of brainless Bangladeshis and Virat Kohli.
You call the money laundering, betting, facilities for spectators at grounds and banning of Pakistan from the league spit worthy, yet praise the IPL like it's responsible for everything good in world cricket, which is a bit hypocritical in my view.
As an end note, i'd just like to say that i don't expect India to allow Pakistanis to play in the league, especially considering they're governed by a far-right party, but just because we don't play in it, it doesn't mean that that's the only reason why we haven't done well from 2012 to 2016 in T20Is.

Just in India? You are delusional my friend. You read what the likes of Ab, Buttler, Watson and the re-emergence of Johnson to mention a few and you'll know the good it's done to players 'around the globe.' To mention it in today's terms, you can see how thankful and appreciative people like Billings are on the world stage after having been part of the IPL.

The BCCI is not a reflection of the Indian cricket fans. Like any other governing body, they have their good and bad aspects. You people have a habit of cursing them and sorry but it comes across as very sour. Your dig on the population of India? I'm ignoring that. I don't want to get into and India vs Pakistan debate here. It's not the place. If it were, I think you'd come out feeling quite sorry for that dig.

I have highlighted a portion in bold. Are you just plain daft? What % of people around the globe would be willing to take up cricket as a profession before the boom of T20 cricket? Compare that to now and it's chalk and cheese.

You should know from all my posts here that I have a great deal of respect for Pakistan cricket and their fans. Take any of my posts (some might even be emotional) and you'll see me sympathising for the fans and their team. You're asking me to show respect? Do you guys even respect your own cricketers? No. And I do regard them as headless chickens in limited overs. It's not disrespect it's how far behind Pakistan is in limited overs. It's just a fact. For instance, Waqar Younis was losing his wits when Pakistan were 70/1 after 13 overs in the chase today. It's just a reflection of the mindset. Most fans, experts and cricketers around the world will tell you that chasing 360, if you're 70/1 after 13, you're about 10 runs behind the ball game. Wickets are what matter. If you need 180 off 20 with 9 poles in hand, you're right into it. It's how India at least approaches a chase. Break the game open by making it a T20 with wickets intact. So yes, I maintain that they're headless chickens in limited overs who don't know whether to play for themselves, the management, the media or may be for the country sometime.

I've always said BCCI has good and bad things in it. Don't see the hypocrisy?

Not playing IPL has hurt Pakistan a great great deal. I'll take Akram's word on it than yours. Hell, just look at England and how much they appreciate it after becoming part of it.
 
Just in India? You are delusional my friend. You read what the likes of Ab, Buttler, Watson and the re-emergence of Johnson to mention a few and you'll know the good it's done to players 'around the globe.' To mention it in today's terms, you can see how thankful and appreciative people like Billings are on the world stage after having been part of the IPL.
Read the second part of my sentence.
The BCCI is not a reflection of the Indian cricket fans. Like any other governing body, they have their good and bad aspects. You people have a habit of cursing them and sorry but it comes across as very sour.
Their previous administration was full of a**holes who didn't care about cricket but just wanted to fill their pockets. That's why they're hated.
You're asking me to show respect? Do you guys even respect your own cricketers? No.
They have to earn it.

And i wasn't talking about ODIs, just T20.
 

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