General Cricket Discussion

[CerealKiller]

I have never understood why a pitch where you have to select 4 pacers and a spinner is considered good, but one where you have to select 4 spinners and a pacer is considered bad.

 

[Verified Enigma]

I have never understood why a pitch where you have to select 4 pacers and a spinner is considered good, but one where you have to select 4 spinners and a pacer is considered bad.

Because a green pitch is still fast paced and batsmen relatively like it over a crumbling one where it's just disastrous with cracks and roughs

 

[Bevab]

Because a green pitch is still fast paced and batsmen relatively like it over a crumbling one where it's just disastrous with cracks and roughs

I implore you to watch the third test in our South African tour a couple of years ago and then still call a green pitch one where batsman like playing.

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I have never understood why a pitch where you have to select 4 pacers and a spinner is considered good, but one where you have to select 4 spinners and a pacer is considered bad.

Just the usual 'subcontinental pitches are either flat or dustbowls' argument. I've seen Pujara play multiple incredible innings on such pitches that deserve far more credit than what he has got.

 

[Yash.]

I have never understood why a pitch where you have to select 4 pacers and a spinner is considered good, but one where you have to select 4 spinners and a pacer is considered bad.

This has been raised multiple times. When Australia, South Africa and New Zealand make pitches suitable to pacers, then no one says anything. The subcontinent teams make a spin friendly pitch, "They only win because of pitch doctoring."

 

[Verified Enigma]

I implore you to watch the third test in our South African tour a couple of years ago and then still call a green pitch one where batsman like playing.

R E L A T I V E L Y

 

[Ashutosh.]

I have never understood why a pitch where you have to select 4 pacers and a spinner is considered good, but one where you have to select 4 spinners and a pacer is considered bad.

I have never seen 4 spinners and 1 pacer in a match.
Even 3 spinners and 2 pacers are rare. We will see this only on dry pitches.
In the latest ICC T20 rankings, 10 out of the top 15 are spinners, and all of the top 6 are spinners but still teams generally go for 2 spinners and 3 pacers on normal pitches. I don't know why.

 

[Ed Smith]

I have never seen 4 spinners and 1 pacer in a match.
Even 3 spinners and 2 pacers are rare. We will see this only on dry pitches.
In the latest ICC T20 rankings, 10 out of the top 15 are spinners, and all of the top 6 are spinners but still teams generally go for 2 spinners and 3 pacers on normal pitches. I don't know why.

Because seam bowling is harder on the body

 

[Bevab]

I have never seen 4 spinners and 1 pacer in a match.
Even 3 spinners and 2 pacers are rare. We will see this only on dry pitches.
In the latest ICC T20 rankings, 10 out of the top 15 are spinners, and all of the top 6 are spinners but still teams generally go for 2 spinners and 3 pacers on normal pitches. I don't know why.

Bangladesh has regularly gone for a minimum of three spinners for their home matches and even opted to use four spinners in a game versus West Indies a couple of years ago. Sri Lanka played Lakmal as the sole pacer for the purpose of getting it older as soon as possible a few years ago too.

As for the T20 reason, you do have a point in that franchises are still underrating the impact spin can potentially give you. Guyana and Chennai are two of the most famous for their spin heavy attack, think there is a side in PSL (Islamabad?) who also favour spinners. The old obsession with "pace is pace yaar" is hurting the image of spinners IMO.

 

[AsadRM]

think there is a side in PSL (Islamabad?) who also favour spinners.

That is Multan Sultans. They have Afridi, Imran Tahir, Usman Qadir, and Khushdil Shah taking care of their spin department.

Till PSL 4, Quetta was also quite reliant on spinners. Hasnain, Naseem and Cutting changed that, though.

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

Because seam bowling is harder on the body

Don't tell me bowling 25-30 overs in one spell is a joke for a spinner. It is equally taxing on their body too. The only thing in Cricket where your body doesn't struggle much is batting. Even fielding is a tough job.

 

[Na Maloom Afraad]

 

[SaiSrini]

On Indian cricket in general - I really think it is time now for Saurav Ganguly to step down from BCCI presidency and give full priority to his health. The guy had a heart attack a few weeks back, and he has been hospitalized for the second time today with chest pain. Having a family history of heart related ailments and seeing the happenings in this past month, the BCCI presidency can really hurt his health and add stress that he absolutely does not need right now.

 

[Aislabie]

Ezra Moseley, former West Indies fast bowler, dies in accident aged 63

Barbados quick-turned-coach dies following collision with SUV near Bridgetown

www.espncricinfo.com

Shit, Ezra Moseley got run over and killed in Barbados today. Someone who'd only just ended up on my radar, but clearly an amazing cricketer

 

[Ed Smith]

Ah man

 

[blockerdave]

Sad this. Really was a fantastic bowler.

I wonder if he or the other rebels ever knew some nerds were keeping their memory alive on a video game!