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NILAYSHAH60
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Reasons why ODI Cricket's importance have declined-
- West Indies & Sri Lanka no longer posing challenge to their opposition.
- Use of 2 different balls in ODI Cricket resulting in something called reverse swing being lost somewhere.
- Covid restrictions.
- Excess number of T20Is.
- Flat road like pitches that doesn't provide any help/assistance to the bowlers.
- Unnecessary/Excess use of third umpire reviews and extra advertisement running over the match duration.
- T20 league Cricket.
- Increased bat sizes
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wasteyouryouth
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Just looking at the English summers from 20 year ago (the last before T20 arrived).
The national side:
7 tests (India 4, Sri Lanka 3)
Natwest Series (tri-series, 7 matches)
International summer started on 16 May and ended on 9 September.
India also played three 50 overs matches and five first class matches.
Sri Lanka played five 50 over matches and six first class matches.
Domestically - there were four tournaments (which, had for a long time been four different formats)
Championship (2 Divisions) 16 matches
National League (45 overs, 2 Divisions) 16 matches
C&G Trophy (50 over knockout) 1-5 matches
Benson & Hedges (50 over group then knockout) 5-8 matches
83 days of cricket max
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2022
England play seven tests (albeit one was rearranged)
6 ODIs
6 IT20s
3 ODIs in Netherlands too
2 June - 12 September
Championship 14 matches
Royal London (50 overs) 8-11 matches
T20 Blast 14-17 matches
The Hundred 8-9 matches
83 days of cricket max (although 26 would be half days)
Of course there's the small matter of the IPL taking place during the first two months. So when playing more cricket is a thing, it's more T20s (international and domestic - India).
The national side:
7 tests (India 4, Sri Lanka 3)
Natwest Series (tri-series, 7 matches)
International summer started on 16 May and ended on 9 September.
India also played three 50 overs matches and five first class matches.
Sri Lanka played five 50 over matches and six first class matches.
Domestically - there were four tournaments (which, had for a long time been four different formats)
Championship (2 Divisions) 16 matches
National League (45 overs, 2 Divisions) 16 matches
C&G Trophy (50 over knockout) 1-5 matches
Benson & Hedges (50 over group then knockout) 5-8 matches
83 days of cricket max
--
2022
England play seven tests (albeit one was rearranged)
6 ODIs
6 IT20s
3 ODIs in Netherlands too
2 June - 12 September
Championship 14 matches
Royal London (50 overs) 8-11 matches
T20 Blast 14-17 matches
The Hundred 8-9 matches
83 days of cricket max (although 26 would be half days)
Of course there's the small matter of the IPL taking place during the first two months. So when playing more cricket is a thing, it's more T20s (international and domestic - India).
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You have summed it up quite well here. Although we have had #1 #2 #4 ad #7 for quite some time here, the emergence of Covid has been actually highly disastrous to the game. Also, do not forget that we have had 2 T20s WC back to back and that the Asia Cup is being played in the same format.
However, as I mentioned in the Ind V WI thread, I think the format isn't at fault here. Let the WT20 get done and you shall see the ODI bandwagon up and running again.
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I was enjoying this read, and then it stopped abruptly. Felt like I read 1/4 of an article, a shame really:
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Exile on main street
A boy, his bread, a ballgame in the balance in a foreign land
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wasteyouryouth
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Get him the IPL
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France's Gustav McKeon rewrites record books with back-to-back T20I tons
With a tally of 286, he now has the most runs by any batter in the first three innings of a men's T20I career
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CerealKiller
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If South Africa slip up away against England and Australia, and Pakistan (5 Tests vs NZ and England at home) and India (2 Tests away in Bangladesh, 4 at home vs Australia) sweep their remaining matches, we'll have that coveted WTC final at Lord's next year.
wasteyouryouth
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Zak Crawley will be praying he makes it to Pakistan and they lay on similar pitches to the Australia series.
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He'll probably make it 30% of the way and suddenly get out, of the plane.
CerealKiller
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Rambo has imported Australian soil now for newly relaid pitches
It's gonna be even flatter now
Aislabie
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It's none of those things. ODI cricket is declining because nobody runs cricket.
The ICC is an events management company that also maintains a few spreadsheets. It doesn't have any actual power to make changes that its members don't already want, and its members are overwhelmingly making decisions based on surviving until the next paycheque comes in.
In the 1990s, ODIs were the best made-for-TV product that cricket could offer and they were the most-televised form of cricket in the world. Now, the best made-for-TV product cricket has to offer is a primetime T20 match with star players from around the world. If there was somebody running cricket then ODIs might be able to continue largely unaffected, but instead we get the present situation - one where boards cast off their one-day competitions in favour of starting their second T20 league, where players miss ODIs to play in a T20 league, and where we don't get to watch as many ODIs because TV channels would rather put on T20 leagues
(Also the current schedule is pure madness where teams might travel to one continent to play a three-match ODI series, then jet straight off to another continent to play a two-match Test series against another team whose schedule is similarly barmy. Nobody wins in this situation.
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We had a scenario where the Aussie 20/20 team was playing NZ in NZ and at the same time the test team was playing India.
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Buttler and Livingstone sign up for CSA's new T20 league
Moeen Ali and Jason Holder are also on board, as competition for players intensifies among the many T20 leagues
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"... South Africa's T20 league will run almost concurrently with the UAE-based International League T20 (ILT20) ... The clash between the two leagues, which also overlap with Australia's BBL and Bangladesh's BPL ..."
Bruh
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The UAE-based International League T20 is reportedly going to be offering the second-most lucrative deals for top players after the IPL. It would be really interesting to see if players still opt to play for any of them except the UAE one if they're all going head-to-head-to-head-to-head.
Bevab
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Buttler and Livingstone sign up for CSA's new T20 league
Moeen Ali and Jason Holder are also on board, as competition for players intensifies among the many T20 leagues
"... South Africa's T20 league will run almost concurrently with the UAE-based International League T20 (ILT20) ... The clash between the two leagues, which also overlap with Australia's BBL and Bangladesh's BPL ..."
Bruh
BBL’s offering players to leave midway through the season for other leagues if players choose to though.
On the other hand having a few top international pros and all of SA’s domestic talent will make their league the best if they can get the other aspects of it working.
