General Cricket Discussion

[Bevab]

By inserting themselves into sports they also want the first thing people think about, when Saudi Arabia comes up, is something other than oil, human rights, regressive society, 9/11, the murder of Jamal Khashoggi.

I could see them setting up a Saudi League but that would mean having it broadcast to meet their aims. The IPL/BCCI could, for example say to broadcasters we won't sell you any India or IPL TV deals if you show this competitor.

Yeah I don’t disagree with that being their aim but I assume there are other sports that are better suited to the task because they’ll have to compete against the likes of the Big Three at one point in cricket without much of a gain.

 

[wasteyouryouth]

Yeah I don’t disagree with that being their aim but I assume there are other sports that are better suited to the task because they’ll have to compete against the likes of the Big Three at one point in cricket without much of a gain.

They're already in F1, football, golf, it sounds like they're after tennis in some way next, There's WWE and boxing. Cricket would seem like a next step. Not sure what else would be bigger globally.

Like you say, football World Cup, maybe an Olympics - Fifa and the IOC aren't exactly examples of people will ignore when a bag of gold is handed to them.

They're already sponsoring IPL and ICC - so a Saudi leg of IPL? A World T20 or Champions Trophy over there? I do actually wonder if they would try to start from scratch but instead target investment in a league like the PSL or The Hundred to elevate it to compete with the IPL in terms of player pay.

 

[Bevab]

They're already in F1, football, golf, it sounds like they're after tennis in some way next, There's WWE and boxing. Cricket would seem like a next step. Not sure what else would be bigger globally.

Like you say, football World Cup, maybe an Olympics - Fifa and the IOC aren't exactly examples of people will ignore when a bag of gold is handed to them.

They're already sponsoring IPL and ICC - so a Saudi leg of IPL? A World T20 or Champions Trophy over there? I do actually wonder if they would try to start from scratch but instead target investment in a league like the PSL or The Hundred to elevate it to compete with the IPL in terms of player pay.

If they do get into cricket, I think they’ll want their own product without any previous associations. Helps with the brand value and image.

They’ll absolutely get the FIFA World Cup in 2034 or 2038, the only reason they pulled out of 2030 was because their combined bid didn’t get as much support from the African bloc due to Morocco and the European bloc because of the Iberian countries alongside the continent having only hosted an event in 2022 on paper. They’ll play the long game and get everyone in line to bid for them come 2034, if they don’t get it they’ll get the next one as ‘compensation’.

A Champions Trophy there could be an interesting starting point, I can see that type of an event happening if they get a couple of good stadiums working.

 

[asprin]

TIL that Harsha Bhogle was a leg spinner.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

The match was reduced by two overs after the first innings and the team chasing had 69 runs added to their target? How does that work?

SL Women beat NZ Women, SL Women won by 8 wickets (with 13 balls remaining) (DLS method)

SL-W 196/2 vs NZ-W 127/2 - SL Women won by 8 wickets (with 13 balls remaining) (DLS method) in Galle, SL-W v NZ-W 2023, July 03, 2023

www.espncricinfo.com

So the underlying is that the first team started their innings assuming that they will get full 50 overs for their entire innings. But they only got 31. Had they known that they will get just 31 overs from the beginning, they might have played more aggressively. But since they went in with the mindset to play 50 overs, they obviously didn't slog in middle overs 20-31 which they would have incase they had known in advance that the innings will end by 31 overs.

Since the second team already know how many overs they have in hand, they will begin to play accordingly since ball one. Hence, to balance it out, the first innings score gets adjusted based on the resources they have left and an imaginary target is set based on the assumption that the team batting team would have made so and so runs if they have just 31 overs.

Hope this clears it.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

So the underlying is that the first team started their innings assuming that they will get full 50 overs for their entire innings. But they only got 31. Had they known that they will get just 31 overs from the beginning, they might have played more aggressively. But since they went in with the mindset to play 50 overs, they obviously didn't slog in middle overs 20-31 which they would have incase they had known in advance that the innings will end by 31 overs.

Since the second team already know how many overs they have in hand, they will begin to play accordingly since ball one. Hence, to balance it out, the first innings scored gets adjusted based on the resources they have left and an imaginary target is set based on the assumption that the team batting team would have made so and so runs if they have just 31 overs.

Hope this clears it.

To make it more clear,

Let's say its Pak vs Aus ODI match.

Pak bat first and they got 50 overs to play. They start with 100/1 in 22 overs. Then rain struck and only 20 more overs could be played in remaining time.

So Pakistan's innings is ended, but Aus aren't given 101 runs to win in 20 overs.

Since Pakistan knew that they have 50 overs to bat, they began to play conservatively in the beginning to save wickets and slog in end overs. Had they earlier known that they will have only 22 overs to bat from the beginning, they would have played agressively from start and may try to get 200 runs.

Hence, based on the above assumption, Australia's target might be set anywhere around 170-210 in those 20 overs. (this is just an example. again it's depends on complex calculation. Had Pak scored 65/4 in 22 overs, maybe aus would get a target of only 140 in 20 overs.)

 

[icyman]

It’s the players who generate all the money, not the boards.
If playing for your country pays peanuts compared to what T20 leagues will pay for your skills, why shouldn’t a guy prioritise taking care of his family over playing for the national team? Not everything is about patriotism.

Honestly, in the case of Ind v Pak / Aus v Eng, it matters not who takes the field. I believe our guys and even Pakistanis are motivated enough to turn up and give their best in any game. Gayle's theory therefore doesn't hold good. The subcontinental boards pay a decent sum of money to their players as well. Being financially stable is one thing, but being greedy is something different altogether.

Additionally, Gayle was mentioning that our players ought to ask for more moolah to play someone like Pakistan. It just doesnt work that way. It isn't a T20 competition where they need to keep running after money.

 

[Bigby Wolf]

Took me a sec to get it.

Lol.

 

[asprin]

YouTube recommended me this again

Love to see stuff like these.

Took me a sec to get it.

Lol.

86400 seconds later, I still don't.

 

[wasteyouryouth]

There's probably been better first balls in international cricket than Mohammad Saleem's.

 

[A.P Haux]

There's probably been better first balls in international cricket than Mohammad Saleem's.View attachment 280393

Reminds me of this

 

[Pinch hitter]

Wow... Tamim Iqbal Retired...

 

[CerealKiller]

Took me a sec to get it.

Lol.

What’s the joke?

 

[A.P Haux]

What’s the joke?

Maybe the fact that we can still view the tweet in PlanetCricket without Elon's angry face showing up

 

[Bigby Wolf]

What’s the joke?

Typos.

Common look at the typos in the post.