Grand Prix-F1

[Stephen Bailey]

I can't see how I'm going to see the race live tomorrow. It's too late to stay up for and too early to get up for with the way my sleep is at the moment. Just noticed there was only 0.04sec between Fisichella and Button.

 

[Warwickshire]

I'll probably catch the replay, i don't think he will but i hope Button gets his first ever F1 victory.

 

[Maxkarter]

I'll probably catch the replay, i don't think he will but i hope Button gets his first ever F1 victory.

The way things go for him, Rosberg is more likely to win than Button. Looking at the way Massa was driving in practise, I shudder to think what he is going to do in the race.

 

[icyman]

Can anyone explain the new system of qualification to me ?

 

[Maxkarter]

Well basically, there are three sessions.
In the first session, the 5 slowest cars get knocked out. (IIRC) Leaving 15 for the next session
In the second one, the next 5 slowest get knocked out. Leaving 10 for the pole posision shoot out.
For the final run, teams put in the desired amount of fuel etc, and the times from this seassion determine the top 10 grid.

Please, correct me if im wrong, I watched the new qualifying for the first time this morning, and too dont know all the of the finer details yet.

 

[themuel1]

Well basically, there are three sessions.
In the first session, the 5 slowest cars get knocked out. (IIRC) Leaving 15 for the next session
In the second one, the next 5 slowest get knocked out. Leaving 10 for the pole posision shoot out.
For the final run, teams put in the desired amount of fuel etc, and the times from this seassion determine the top 10 grid.

Please, correct me if im wrong, I watched the new qualifying for the first time this morning, and too dont know all the of the finer details yet.

Thers also the stuff in the final run about fuel credits or tokens. Not 100% on why they do that........can anyone explain please?

 

[Stephen Bailey]

Thers also the stuff in the final run about fuel credits or tokens. Not 100% on why they do that........can anyone explain please?

For the final session, the top 10 runners have to start with the fuel they intend to start the race with. For each lap they complete, they can put that amount back in. However, this ruins the final session in my opinion as you get about 10 minutes of drivers going round burning off the fuel for the last gasp shot at pole.

 

[themuel1]

For the final session, the top 10 runners have to start with the fuel they intend to start the race with. For each lap they complete, they can put that amount back in. However, this ruins the final session in my opinion as you get about 10 minutes of drivers going round burning off the fuel for the last gasp shot at pole.

What the hell is the point in burning the fuel off!!! What a damn waste!

Otherwise, I think the qualifying is much better. It's making F1 watchable again.

Question: Why have the majority of cars gone from V10 to V8?

 

[Sureshot]

No it's not a waste.

The less fuel the quicker laps they can do to get on Pole.

As they can replace it, burning the fuel off works and is not a waste unless you're a Green.

 

[themuel1]

No it's not a waste.

The less fuel the quicker laps they can do to get on Pole.

As they can replace it, burning the fuel off works and is not a waste unless you're a Green.

I understand about the quicker laps point, it just seems a little pointless burning the fuel off in the session to get it back.....maybe I'm still a little confused....

 

[Stephen Bailey]

Question: Why have the majority of cars gone from V10 to V8?

New rules from the FIA, to 'slow speeds and cut costs'.

No it's not a waste.

The less fuel the quicker laps they can do to get on Pole.

As they can replace it, burning the fuel off works and is not a waste unless you're a Green.

What I don't get is that the FIA/Bernie wanted to improved the spectacle of qualifying, which they have done supurbly, but the majority of the last session makes a mockery of this. Today, I was watching the qualifying re-run when it got to the third session. I actually went downstairs to sort my lunch out and still got back up to see the 'proper' qualifying laps. Each session should be the same in my opinion. Low fuel and drivers going flat out, that's what qualifying should be about all the time.

 

[Maxkarter]

Race was a real blinder... nah, quite subdued unless you are a McLaren fan. Kimi has some of the worst luck I have ever seen, and I'm sure he'd want to have a 'friendly' talk with Klien for braking his suspension in the first lap. Fisi has had a turn around in luck, and Massa managed to beat MS to the line because of his pit strategy. Good ole Cosworths just cant take the heat with both cars retiring. Otherwise a good race.

 

[Sureshot]

I understand about the quicker laps point, it just seems a little pointless burning the fuel off in the session to get it back.....maybe I'm still a little confused....

Me thinks you are very confused.

Remember teams may change strategy even during that last session.

The teams can't re-fuel between those 3 sessions of qualifying so they go out with bigger fuel loads at the beginning.



Basically, They can only get back fuel they use and they'll want to set a decent time and be prepared for changing race strategy,

 

[icyman]

Sad ...
I'm a big McLaren fan.
Though i'm happy for Ferrari that they have come back strongly this time around.

 

[Kev]

I understand about the quicker laps point, it just seems a little pointless burning the fuel off in the session to get it back.....maybe I'm still a little confused....

For the last session, the remaining cars must start with their Fuel in for the race, they then gain fuel back at a set rate per lap they run, so by running round slowly they use less fuel so get to start with more in the tank. Its a stupid rule, the whole of quali should be on low fuel.