ICC Champions Trophy 2013 - England & Wales

[Ahmad94]

India go in as underdogs, and that's when they are the most dangerous. I hope they live up to that reputation of "performing best when not many tip them to".

I can't believe people are saying this. I understand no Yuvi,sehwag or Gambhir. But Raina is in great touch. Rohit Sharma is oozing with confidence, Dhawan showed class. Kohli is always good (mr reliable). If the bowling holds together properly, it is India's tournament all the way. Plus India have so much more match practise recently.

In the case of Pakistan, Nasir Jamshed is seriously struggling for form. Imran farhat is so bad, I would play 10 men in the line-up. Hafeez seems ok, and his spin might be useful in English conditions. Misbah is OK, and if can adapt properly to the situation he can be an asset for the team. Malik is fairly reliable but is playing too low down the order to make any decent contribution to the score in anyway. Asad Shafiq, is a test player. He is not designed for ODI in any way. He has a strike rate of 70 odd usually, and unlike when playing against Ireland he wouldn't be able to speed up against quality bowling. Kamran Akmal, he can have his day. Hope he can catch the ball this time. Wahab Raiz, I mean come on. He is handy with the bat and his bowling is all over the place. with the likes of strong teams his economy would be over 8 comfortably. Junaid Khan seems a composed player, but his death bowl is pretty average. Asad Ali and Ehsan Adil have little to no experience and can barely take on quality batting. Saeed Ajmal seems rusty, hope he comes back to his usual self. Not to mention none of them have played any internatioanl cricket in the last 2-3 months. Without the likes of Younis Khan, Shahid Afridi. Pakistan may aswell not play the tournament.

Saying all that, I have obliged to support them and hope for the best.

They should come and play it here in Norfolk, it's cloudy and cool but at least it's dry!

Suprisingly, it was pretty average day here in Stafford, and we only 45 mins away from Birmingham.

 

[SaiSrini]

I can't believe people are saying this. I understand no Yuvi,sehwag or Gambhir. But Raina is in great touch. Rohit Sharma is oozing with confidence, Dhawan showed class. Kohli is always good (mr reliable). If the bowling holds together properly, it is India's tournament all the way. Plus India have so much more match practise recently.

You have to remember that India are moving from subcontinent conditions to English conditions. Our players who do well in subcontinent, are almost kittens abroad. Esp. the likes of Vijay, Raina and Rohit Sharma. I am hoping Dhawan is good because he can play the short ball well. Dhoni and Kohli play ODI well in any condition. If atleast 3-4 batsmen for India click, I would say we have a good chance. But we face tough teams like South Africa, Pakistan and West Indies all of whom are title contenders and have good pace attacks.

I would go with this XI for India:

S Dhawan
D Karthik
V Kohli
R Sharma
S Raina
M Dhoni
R Jadeja
R Ashwin
B Kumar
I Sharma
U Yadav

Rotate Irfan for Jadeja and vice versa based on conditions. Same with Vinay Kumar and Ishant Sharma or Yadav. The batting order hopefully should be set. Would like to see Karthik opening instead of Vijay, but have a feeling Dhoni is going to go with Vijay and have Karthik sit out.

 

[Epic]

The conditions I feel are beyond overstated at this point, it's just England ffs, not Mars.

 

[sifter132]

India go in as underdogs, and that's when they are the most dangerous. I hope they live up to that reputation of "performing best when not many tip them to".

More negativity India are only the #1 ranked ODI team at present and defending World Cup champs...Yes, the conditions will be a negative for the Indians, but they will be for most teams. Even teams like Australia who have good pace options, they have question marks over their batting in seaming conditions.

Plus your contention that India performs best when they are not expected to is not right. India performed their best at 2011 World Cup - they certainly weren't written off before that. Leading up to that World Cup they'd beaten Aus in a home ODI series, and narrowly lost a series to SA in SA - the #1 ranked team at the time. In home conditions, many people tipped India as the favourites, what do you know? they won!. On the other hand, India are not tipped to perform before most overseas Test tours - and usually they don't!

I think it's completely wishful thinking that the more a team is ridiculed and written off, the better it will do. I think what you really mean is that India often don't live up to expectations ie. favoured to win every World T20 since 2007, stuff like that. But I'm afraid that happens to other teams as well, not just an Indian phenomenon. Ask South African fans what it's like to be favourites for big tournaments...

 

[Skater]

The conditions I feel are beyond overstated at this point, it's just England ffs, not Mars.

It makes sense that if the England players struggle with the spinning wickets in Asia, that the Asian players would struggle with the traditionally swinging and seaming conditions over here.

Sadly, our groundsmen have produced a lot of roads lately so batting will be easier than India are used to here. The downside for sides like those from Asia and the West Indies is that the weather has been awful. Really only Australia, New Zealand, South Africa and of course England will be able to handle the cold we've had.

 

[vet_m]

This Event Lacks Proper Scheduling and is just mere a Formality For ICC Revenues.

A Big Arena Event Like Champions Trophy Has Sadly Lost it's Charm and Beauty.

Would Have Been better if it Had Expansive and Detailed Scheduling.

 

[tanma]

hey isnt there any new patch for ea cricket 07

 

[vaibhavtewatia]

hey isnt there any new patch for ea cricket 07

You are hanging around the wrong thread dude!!

This Event Lacks Proper Scheduling and is just mere a Formality For ICC Revenues.

A Big Arena Event Like Champions Trophy Has Sadly Lost it's Charm and Beauty.

Would Have Been better if it Had Expansive and Detailed Scheduling.

Yeah they've just deleted it from their priority list, that is sad indeed.
Personally, it is a fav tournament, great to see the top 8 nations compete, though it is a shame not to have Ban and Ire.

Though I contradict about the scheduling, it seems fine to me. You have to keep in mind that ICC has had to plan all of this keeping in mind the IPL and other events in the FTP( which serves nothing to cricket. )

A big match, like Aus-Eng , Ind-Pak, etc. will draw large people in the stadiums, and has been the case in most of the ICC events, obviously the home team will always get a huge support!!

The match at Birmingham was abandoned, and the next match scheduled to be there as well, let us hope for the best!!

 

[Satan666]

S Dhawan
D Karthik
V Kohli
R Sharma
S Raina
M Dhoni
R Jadeja
R Ashwin
B Kumar
I Sharma
U Yadav

Rotate Irfan for Jadeja and vice versa based on conditions. Same with Vinay Kumar and Ishant Sharma or Yadav. The batting order hopefully should be set. Would like to see Karthik opening instead of Vijay, but have a feeling Dhoni is going to go with Vijay and have Karthik sit out.

Minus Dhoni, Kholi and Raina this teams look like an Indian second string team, lolz!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[StinkyBoHoon]

The downside for sides like those from Asia and the West Indies is that the weather has been awful. Really only Australia, New Zealand, South Africa and of course England will be able to handle the cold we've had.

not the worst problem to have to combat though is it? just get some jumpers.

england should be second favourites but against new zealand they're again looking like a side that doesn't really know how to play ODIs properly.

 

[Aalay]

So Stuart Broad and Steven Finn are injured and England have added Boyd Rankin to the squad.

Former Irish cricketer Boyd Rankin added to English squad - Independent.ie

But as Stinky said, looking at this ODI, it just looks like it is NZ vs Anderson right now. Anderson is not that good of ODI bowler but he is still bowling well. Looking at this ODI, it is hard to call England favourite unless they really turn it around.

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Dhoni has just said that Vijay and Dhawan will open the inning for India and Rohit will bat in the middle overs. It is definitely not a good move to bring Murli Vijay straight to the lineup. He has been rubbish in IPL. I am not sure how he will do? I hope he can prove me wrong and score some runs.Going by that, there won't be any place for Dinesh Karthik. Dhoni also said that Jadeja's "all-round" skills will be crucial in the team so they are likely to start with Jadeja. So team should look like this:

Vijay
Dhawan
Kohli
Rohit
MSD
Raina
SRJ
Ashwin
Bhuvi
Ishant
Umesh

 

[vaibhavtewatia]

Anderson is not that good of ODI bowler but he is still bowling well.

Relatively, if you compare with tests, yes!!
But I still find him very good in the ODI's, esp when in England.

 

[Satan666]

So Stuart Broad and Steven Finn are injured and England have added Boyd Rankin to the squad.

Former Irish cricketer Boyd Rankin added to English squad - Independent.ie

But as Stinky said, looking at this ODI, it just looks like it is NZ vs Anderson right now. Anderson is not that good of ODI bowler but he is still bowling well. Looking at this ODI, it is hard to call England favourite unless they really turn it around.

It was just a matter of time Rankin was part of the squad, very good cricketer. Personally, Anderson is way overrated, Broad is miles ahead!

 

[vaibhavtewatia]

Personally, Anderson is way overrated, Broad is miles ahead!

Anderson's ability to swing the bowl both ways, as well as reverse swing has been unparalleled as of now. Broad is yet to come at that level!! True, he's been taking more wickets lately, but hasn't been consistent enough in the away games tbh.

 

[TheNameisNiru]

You have to remember that India are moving from subcontinent conditions to English conditions. Our players who do well in subcontinent, are almost kittens abroad. Esp. the likes of Vijay, Raina and Rohit Sharma. I am hoping Dhawan is good because he can play the short ball well. Dhoni and Kohli play ODI well in any condition. If atleast 3-4 batsmen for India click, I would say we have a good chance. But we face tough teams like South Africa, Pakistan and West Indies all of whom are title contenders and have good pace attacks.

I would go with this XI for India:

S Dhawan
D Karthik
V Kohli
R Sharma
S Raina
M Dhoni
R Jadeja
R Ashwin
B Kumar
I Sharma
U Yadav

Rotate Irfan for Jadeja and vice versa based on conditions. Same with Vinay Kumar and Ishant Sharma or Yadav. The batting order hopefully should be set. Would like to see Karthik opening instead of Vijay, but have a feeling Dhoni is going to go with Vijay and have Karthik sit out.

no rotation irfan in place of ishant