ICC Cricket World Cup - May/July 2019

[NILAYSHAH60]

I genuinely do not want another India-Pak game in this WC. I was hoping for the same in the CT as well. These crappy once in 4 years fans hijack the whole event in an unhealthy manner.

Looking at the things on social media even I am forced to agree with you. Enough of India-Pakistan now unless it's a knockout.

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

Afghanistan atleast should've come with an approach to score atleast 300. They just can't keep chipping away few runs. Nothing wrong in losing wickets when you've lost most part of the match. Atleast need to make this competitive for the fans.

 

[SiriusBlack]

I genuinely do not want another India-Pak game in this WC. I was hoping for the same in the CT as well. These crappy once in 4 years fans hijack the whole event in an unhealthy manner.

Honestly though, it has some fun to it as a neutral.

Rivalry is a part of the game and I think avoiding it isn't necessarily the best option - players battling it out and showing mutual respect can also go a long way in terms of influencing the fans. The Bangladeshi fanbase has long been guilty in not showing respect but we've since come a long way mostly due to how our players have gradually changed their demeanor as well. I think it's fine until the fans make it political, and I think playing it out respectfully is the best way to show that rivalry in the game transcends politics.

 

[aditya123]

Honestly though, it has some fun to it as a neutral.

Rivalry is a part of the game and I think avoiding it isn't necessarily the best option - players battling it out and showing mutual respect can also go a long way in terms of influencing the fans. The Bangladeshi fanbase has long been guilty in not showing respect but we've since come a long way mostly due to how our players have gradually changed their demeanor as well. I think it's fine until the fans make it political, and I think playing it out respectfully is the best way to show that rivalry in the game transcends politics.

I don`t detest it as a sporting rivalry if these bandwagon hoppers actually had knowledge of the game. They follow it not for the quality of the game itself but for their own bigoted views. These people exist on both sides of the border and I just hate the game being held hostage by these folks.[DOUBLEPOST=1560873698][/DOUBLEPOST]Coming back to today's game, the Afghans are showing the vulnerabilities in the English bowling yet again in this tournament.

 

[Alexei.]

What a game today! 25 Sixes OMG! I missed a lot.

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

Honestly I feel if Afghanistan tries to mould Rahmat Shah as a Test player he is sure to go a long way. In the early overs today both Archer and Wood were bowling Test match line and length and he was quite comfortable leaving out those swinging deliveries bouncing at shoulder height. And he looked really impressive with his technique.

 

[Bevab]

Honestly I feel if Afghanistan tries to mould Rahmat Shah as a Test player he is sure to go a long way. In the early overs today both Archer and Wood were bowling Test match line and length and he was quite comfortable leaving out those swinging deliveries bouncing at shoulder height. And he looked really impressive with his technique.

He is their best batsman in terms of technique without any doubt. Could be a valuable anchor in the near future when you’ve got the likes of Zazai, Shahzad, Rasooli and Najibullah batting around him.

 

[Rehan_24]

Pakistan, and Pakistani supporters must stop feeding those atrocious reality shows that masquerade as WC analysis. The likes of Basit Ali and Tanvir are toxic for the psyche of the nation and even the supporters. I feel for the Pak team after such a defeat. I used to feel horrible watching manufactured anger on shows like 'Match ke Mujrim' in Indian News channels during the Ganguly era. These news channels are leeches, have no genuine cricketing insights and make the watching public unsportsmanlike. Also, those shows where both Indian and Pakistani news channels do a 'jugalbandi' is cringeworthy. Trust me, you get rid of those leeches and focus on long term structuring of the sport in Pakistan, there is enough talent there to start winning again. There is enough market, talent and public will there. Pakistani cricketers must stop looking at these India-Pak games through 90s-tinted glasses. Basit Ali saying they thrashed India in the 90s has no relevance now. We used to get thrashed in that phase, its Pakistan now. The cycle will change again. This kind of over-reaction, going after players' and their family is idiotic. Indian fans are no better. Lot of the new age Indian supporters who only watch cricket played by India during the WC are just pseudo-nationalistic fans and they use it as a vehicle of jingoism and not for the love of the game. I felt bad to see the kind of symbolism by Indian fans, both in the ground and online talking of cricket on lines of militaristic and religious lines. That made me feel like the genuine cricket fan is drowned out in all this. For that reason alone, this rivalry between India and Pakistan must die down, at least till it becomes a genuine cricketing contest again. The only people benefiting from this right now are the hate mongers on both sides, and I do not want a sport that I love for its pure joys to be hijacked by these morons. At the start of the WC, I did say that I do not feel emotionally attached to this WC. This is one huge reason. When we win or lose, what I, as a cricket lover want is to discuss the intricacies of the sport and the big moments on the field. What I`m seeing now is politicization and nationalistic symbolism among fans. No room on the internet to talk about the sport. I indulged in some really fun banter with Pakistani and Indian fans online yesterday and got trolled by people for that, was called all sorts of names by my friends even! We might be winning more but this game has lost its innocence for me. Harsha Bhogle spoke about this the other day as well about people using the sport to further other jingoistic passions of theirs. He got a fair bit of trolling as well. Makes you wonder whether the rivalry is doing us any good.

The rivalry is the heart of any sports. In terms of cricket, Pakistan India Cricket Rivalry is even bigger than Australia and England. When they compete with each other billions of people turn towards it. I don't think so anyone here talks like or talked about the likes of Basit Ali and Tanvir. As you already put things are at both sides of the border and you know its a huge population full of cricket lovers. I don't think so we should put focus towards Social Media, jokes, and opinions full of personal grudges where ex-cricketers have to settle their own scores. We have talked about in pure cricketing terminologies and opinions. Fans do not have personal grudges with any cricketer, they just want good cricket and on merit selection.

You know well that there are plenty of genuine cricket fans like yourself on both sides of the border who give a heck to the useless long talk shows and social media banter. In my opinion, the intense arguments and things happening over media because the arch-rivals are not getting the due cricket they deserve as well as the fans have been deprived of watching their favorite players competing each other with regular intervals in different venues. This is a Cricket loss itself more than anything else that both teams don't play against each other more often what they used to. When two rivals are competing in almost four years time, What would you expect then? Such shows, hype, talks, over excitement will definitely generate at both sides of the border. You can disagree for sure but that's how I see it and many other cricketing fans. When rivals of any sports play against each other, Entertainment and Excitement is the first thing that comes up and commercialism follows it rather than vice-versa. World Cricket needed India and Pakistan matches so I'd rather think they both teams should compete more often.

Moreover, there are some sane cricketing experts there as well, we can talk about Wasim Akram, Misbah-ul-Haq, Rashid Latif and even Akhtar (Little Blunt) who give pure cricketing reasons over performances most of the times. Similarly, good ex-cricketers with constructive views are well there in India as well.

The last thing, I'd not agree with a conclusion of some ex-cricketers that India is at par with Pakistan and there is a huge difference. For sure, the Indian team is more professional, having a better captain and consistent team balance at present. Both teams need to compete more with each other to judge the difference rather than comparing the two sides in a one-off match after 2 to 3 years gap.

Coming to overall World Cup, I think on paper four teams are cruising through to semis, England, Australia, India, and Newzeland with one-off upset from Bangladesh can turn things around. Most people are seeing England as hot favorite to win this World Cup but I think England bowling line isn't that good against quality batsmen and batting. I think all these four teams equal contenders for the Cup

 

[aditya123]

The rivalry is the heart of any sports. In terms of cricket, Pakistan India Cricket Rivalry is even bigger than Australia and England. When they compete with each other billions of people turn towards it. I don't think so anyone here talks like or talked about the likes of Basit Ali and Tanvir. As you already put things are at both sides of the border and you know its a huge population full of cricket lovers. I don't think so we should put focus towards Social Media, jokes, and opinions full of personal grudges where ex-cricketers have to settle their own scores. We have talked about in pure cricketing terminologies and opinions. Fans do not have personal grudges with any cricketer, they just want good cricket and on merit selection.

You know well that there are plenty of genuine cricket fans like yourself on both sides of the border who give a heck to the useless long talk shows and social media banter. In my opinion, the intense arguments and things happening over media because the arch-rivals are not getting the due cricket they deserve as well as the fans have been deprived of watching their favorite players competing each other with regular intervals in different venues. This is a Cricket loss itself more than anything else that both teams don't play against each other more often what they used to. When two rivals are competing in almost four years time, What would you expect then? Such shows, hype, talks, over excitement will definitely generate at both sides of the border. You can disagree for sure but that's how I see it and many other cricketing fans. When rivals of any sports play against each other, Entertainment and Excitement is the first thing that comes up and commercialism follows it rather than vice-versa. World Cricket needed India and Pakistan matches so I'd rather think they both teams should compete more often.

Moreover, there are some sane cricketing experts there as well, we can talk about Wasim Akram, Misbah-ul-Haq, Rashid Latif and even Akhtar (Little Blunt) who give pure cricketing reasons over performances most of the times. Similarly, good ex-cricketers with constructive views are well there in India as well.

The last thing, I'd not agree with a conclusion of some ex-cricketers that India is at par with Pakistan and there is a huge difference. For sure, the Indian team is more professional, having a better captain and consistent team balance at present. Both teams need to compete more with each other to judge the difference rather than comparing the two sides in a one-off match after 2 to 3 years gap.

Coming to overall World Cup, I think on paper four teams are cruising through to semis, England, Australia, India, and Newzeland with one-off upset from Bangladesh can turn things around. Most people are seeing England as hot favorite to win this World Cup but I think England bowling line isn't that good against quality batsmen and batting. I think all these four teams equal contenders for the Cup

Many people derive entertainment out of the context not for its cricket sadly.

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

Some sane cricketing experts there as well, we can talk about Rashid Latif and even Akhtar (Little Blunt)

Are you serious ?

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

Many people derive entertainment out of the context not for its cricket sadly.

Exactly. Trolling has become their bread and butter. And these people actually come up with reasons like, "If I am trolling then what is your problem ?". People with such attitude are themselves a troll !!

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

Absolute beauty from Lockie Ferguson [DOUBLEPOST=1560945794][/DOUBLEPOST]Get Amla out now and the Proteas would be in big trouble.

 

[asprin]

And Dhawan is ruled out of WC

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/...-world-cup-rishabh-pant-confirmed-replacement

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

And Dhawan is ruled out of WC

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/...-world-cup-rishabh-pant-confirmed-replacement

Should Pant open ?

 

[Bevab]

Should Pant open ?

Sounds like an extremely risky move to open with a completely inexperienced international player who hasn’t got any notable previous experience there in domestic cricket either...

I’d rather see Pant at 5 or 6 with Dhoni at 4, if Shankar doesn’t perform well.[DOUBLEPOST=1560948812][/DOUBLEPOST]

Absolute beauty from Lockie Ferguson [DOUBLEPOST=1560945794][/DOUBLEPOST]Get Amla out now and the Proteas would be in big trouble.

Ask and you shall receive....