India in Pakistan

[SaiSrini]

This series remains interesting only coz of the D/l factor in the first match which deprived India of being the deserving winners, otherwise there seems to be a no contest between the two teams.India are rock solid in nearly all department of the games and are playing as a team, while Pakistan are pathetic and no match to Indian team.

4-1 to India

No No! Lets not predict 4-1! That would be terrible if it doesnt happen and we end up on the wrong side of the coin! we dont want to do what some Pakistani fans did (not all, not generalizing).

3-2 to either side would be acceptable, 4-1 to India means Pakistan should play extremely bad cricket! They are doing some things well but a combination of India not allowing them to do it fully well and a combination of their bad fielding is costing them so far!

Good to see the Indians not rubbing it on to the Pakistani wounds !

Prez.Musharraf , I thought made a great gesture by encouraging both sides and his comment on Dhoni and his hair.

Moin Khan , did a huge mistake by commenting on Sachin`s ability in his columns .
He has motivated the great man and he is looking in superb touch now!

Actually, the last few times Tendulkar has got out in the 90s and 80s, India have won ! I would list a few.

98 V Pakistan at Centurion , WC 2003
97 V SRL at Jo`burg WC2003
87 V AUS at Brisbane VB Series 2004
94 V SRL at Nagpur 2005
95 V Pak at Lahore 2005

Now on to his last few 100s
141 V Pakistan at Rawalpindi 2004 (India lost by 12 runs)
123 V Pakistan at Ah`bad 2005 (India lost by 3 wickets)
100 V Pakistan at Peshawar 2005 (India lost by D/L : 7 runs)
If Iam not wrong, Sachin`s last hundred resulting in an Indian win was his 103 against NZ in the TVS Cup Tri-Series in 2003.

It shows that Tendulkar has been setting up matches for the side but they have been unable to capitalize on that.

Rana Naved looked superb against England but now he looks aweful .

One thing that came to my mind y`day was that India will b very tough to beat for England with the Indian top order in ominous form (especially in ODIs).

Also, we are now starting to see an Indian side who are beginning to look real contenders for the WC next year.
As Nasser Hussain said, `India need to find one more bowler who can suport Pathan and bowls at a decent speed an they`ll be a big contender for th WC 2007`
I feel Sreesanth has it in him to be a strike bowler. He has the aggression and the right attitude.
He needs to just tone it down a bit.
If we can strike the right combination in the bowling dept., we have the batting which can post 300+ consistently on the good ODI pitches which the Carribean will offer.

Even with Sreesanth, we can find one more bowler who can lend support to Pathan! Sreesanth sometimes gets it over the top and sprays around! Yes, he needs exposure and experience to get over it. But every match now is important! We need to give importance to victory also! So grooming one more fast bowler is required. Thats why guys like Munaf and VRV Singh should be groomed during the England series!

And I think India also need to address the spin bowling department. Ramesh Powar is not a long term prospect! He is just "more than a useful" off spinner! We need a specialist spinner. Murali Kartik looks awful in my opinion! I think sooner or later, Piyush Chawla should be groomed too to strengthen the spin department! Harbhajan is going to be there till the world cup. we need a back up spinner for him and who better than groom a future spinner for india who can pick wickets and bat usefully lower down the order?

bring gangu instead of viru.

Unless some batsman gets injured from now on, no chance for ganguly to play in either of the two remaining ODI matches in Pakistan!

Ganguly will soon be back in the ODI's (probably against England). He looks in great form! He will definitely come back!

 

[asifplaya]

Shahid Afidi: Boom boom no more...

 

[cricket_lover]

This series remains interesting only coz of the D/l factor in the first match which deprived India of being the deserving winners, otherwise there seems to be a no contest between the two teams.India are rock solid in nearly all department of the games and are playing as a team, while Pakistan are pathetic and no match to Indian team.

4-1 to India

what a stupid comment.
So you think a "pathetic" team beat India comprehensively in the third test? Immature and baseless comments from anyone will provoke further flame wars.
Pakistan are a well-knit team, they are missing few players and they probably need to settle their batting order a bit. Their bowling is in-experienced yet impressive.
India are equally matched and Sachin's return to form is indeed a boost to them. That is the difference.
You cannot write down pakistan, this series is still wide open.

 

[cheaterr]

Who do you thin viru will be replaced. Hope it's Ganguly bengali tiger.

 

[cricket_lover]

Replace Viru? when? For the ongoing ODI series? No one. India will continue with Gambhir.
For England series? Viru should be fit by then, hopefully.

 

[SaiSrini]

Who do you thin viru will be replaced. Hope it's Ganguly bengali tiger.

Are they seeking for a replacement? I dont think so, though I think that should be done immediately! The next match is going to start in 36 hours and the replacement needs to arrive within those hours!

I think we will see the same team for the next match! If some one from the batting order gets injured, only then will a replacement be asked for the final match!

Replace Viru? when? For the ongoing ODI series? No one. India will continue with Gambhir.
For England series? Viru should be fit by then, hopefully.

If Kaif doesnt improve his form in the last two matches, I would say bring back Ganguly for the England ODI series! Raina should be allowed to remain in the team! Kaif can be in the team in place of Gambhir but need not play in the XII.

 

[durrani1]

first of all the match was played to please indians.... there were lots of indians in the ground and I was there too.. I was with some indians they were happy with our hospitality and support.... any way remmember 2004 first match was won by indians and the other two by pakistanis and the remaining were again won by india and we know how........ this is the same criteria and one must believe the moment dhoni came out the body language of pakistanis instead of getting better, just worst then ever....three time rana was hit for four in the same area and that was bizarre.... there were lot of things that I want to say but u people always say that i talk rubbish so wht can i do...

 

[SaiSrini]

first of all the match was played to please indians.... there were lots of indians in the ground and I was there too.. I was with some indians they were happy with our hospitality and support.... any way remmember 2004 first match was won by indians and the other two by pakistanis and the remaining were again won by india and we know how........ this is the same criteria and one must believe the moment dhoni came out the body language of pakistanis instead of getting better, just worst then ever....three time rana was hit for four in the same area and that was bizarre.... there were lot of things that I want to say but u people always say that i talk rubbish so wht can i do...

u seem to be such an interesting character, durrani!

so you think only pakistan can win cricket matches in this whole world?

so you say pakistan fixed this match and lost just to appease the indians?

the 2004 series was not fixed and neither is this series being fixed... the 4th match of the 2004 series was won by india deservingly because of the way we batted. and pakistan was on the wrong end because of the dew which made batting easier!

and the fifth match, well before the dew came, we had pakistan down for some 99-6 or so! from then on, pakistan batted well and came close but simply india were able to finish it off that time!

speak abt stuff like fixing only when it is proved!

 

[cricket_lover]

If Kaif doesnt improve his form in the last two matches, I would say bring back Ganguly for the England ODI series! Raina should be allowed to remain in the team! Kaif can be in the team in place of Gambhir but need not play in the XII.

what makes you say that Kaif's form is bad. By his two performances?
1...coming down the order, 46/47 overs into the game..and the second one,
36th over...and when the team needed big hits?

 

[SaiSrini]

what makes you say that Kaif's form is bad. By his two performances?
1...coming down the order, 46/47 overs into the game..and the second one,
36th over...and when the team needed big hits?

Well, he has to score whichever position he is sent in! His wicket yesterday put the pressure on Dhoni and Yuvraj to avoid further damage. Thankfully, Dhoni was able to continue the chase even after Kaif fell. Do you think it will happen often?

Kaif has failed all three matches! Even before in the South Africa series, he didnt score good runs to suggest that he is still a vital ODI batsman!

 

[cricket_lover]

Well, he has to score whichever position he is sent in! His wicket yesterday put the pressure on Dhoni and Yuvraj to avoid further damage. Thankfully, Dhoni was able to continue the chase even after Kaif fell. Do you think it will happen often?

Kaif has failed all three matches! Even before in the South Africa series, he didnt score good runs to suggest that he is still a vital ODI batsman!

His form in the domestic level is quite good. Sachin did not score at the top of the order in the tests and even against SA, what happened? Coach/Captain gave him time and freedom and he is back with a bang.

What did Dravid do in the last match? scored 22 of 45+ balls...nothing wrong with the innings but thats the sort of position Kaif has to go. You cannot convert Gavaskar into Afridi, you cannot force Kaif to play big shots when he is not used to.
Give him time to change his game! Dravid was given 6 years to change his game and now he can adapt!
Kaif has not been a regular in the ODI team, always coming at no.6/7 in the death overs and expecting him to score big is stupid.
He has to be sent at no.3/4 or we're just wasting a great talent. He is tipped as former skipper, won U-19 world cup for nothing.
First, give him a position that suits him. Laxman can be asked to open in the tests...but it did not suit him. No.3 and no.6 did, and his average suggests that!

Debacle in 4-5 games won't mean anything...in this case, it means poor management of resources. One of such resources is Mohammad Kaif.

 

[Wahindiawah]

what a stupid comment.
So you think a "pathetic" team beat India comprehensively in the third test? Immature and baseless comments from anyone will provoke further flame wars.
Pakistan are a well-knit team, they are missing few players and they probably need to settle their batting order a bit. Their bowling is in-experienced yet impressive.
India are equally matched and Sachin's return to form is indeed a boost to them. That is the difference.
You cannot write down pakistan, this series is still wide open.

There is a difference between TEST AND ONEDAY format of cricket, Pakistan won one test match but are struggling in ODI.

Also India played better cricket in first two test matches but were tired in the last match, particularly their bowlers (this is what Dravid said later after the loss) as Pakistan cleverly made them tired by having them bowled for longer period without declaring the innings even when the match was going nowhere.

If Pakistan is missing Akhtar, then India is missing Viru and Harbhajan!! So don't come up with excuses for Pak pathetic performance.

Pak bowling is rubbish, only Asif looks decent, and their fielding is of pre-school standard.

In the light of WC 2007, i see this contest between two team, one being the hot fav to win the WC (along with Aus) in India, and the other that will struggle once again to reach the super six stage the second consecutive time around.

If India wins 4-1, then you will see the end of the career of some of the pak players, Inzi might even get sacked as captain of the team

first of all the match was played to please indians.... there were lots of indians in the ground and I was there too.. I was with some indians they were happy with our hospitality and support.... any way remmember 2004 first match was won by indians and the other two by pakistanis and the remaining were again won by india and we know how........ this is the same criteria and one must believe the moment dhoni came out the body language of pakistanis instead of getting better, just worst then ever....three time rana was hit for four in the same area and that was bizarre.... there were lot of things that I want to say but u people always say that i talk rubbish so wht can i do...

Such is the plight of Pak cricket team, that even when they are playing their normal cricket they look like throwing the match!!

Face it pakistan cannot match a vastly superior talented team in India and as such are losing badly.

 

[cricket_lover]

There is a difference between TEST AND ONEDAY format of cricket, Pakistan won one test match but are struggling in ODI.

Also India played better cricket in first two test matches but were tired in the last match, particularly their bowlers (this is what Dravid said later after the loss) as Pakistan cleverly made them tired by having them bowled for longer period without declaring the innings even when the match was going nowhere.

If Pakistan is missing Akhtar, then India is missing Viru and Harbhajan!! So don't come up with excuses for Pak pathetic performance.

Pak bowling is rubbish, only Asif looks decent, and their fielding is of pre-school standard.

In the light of WC 2007, i see this contest between two team, one being the hot fav to win the WC (along with Aus) in India, and the other that will struggle once again to reach the super six stage the second consecutive time around.

If India wins 4-1, then you will see the end of the career of some of the pak players, Inzi might even get sacked as captain of the team



Such is the plight of Pak cricket team, that even when they are playing their normal cricket they look like throwing the match!!

Face it pakistan cannot match a vastly superior talented team in India and as such are losing badly.

What do you see as pathetic in Pakistan's performance? They notched big scores all times, their bowling looked decent.
You are using the wrong words at the wrong situation. India isn't a vastly superior side to Pakistan.

Indian bowling is as rubbish as pakistan. Except pathan, nobody was impressive!
and don't come up with hypothesis that we cannot experiment on..."bowlers getting tired and pakistan playing for a long time..."

 

[ZexyZahid]

What a joker. :laugh Especially he is saying this after Pakistan won the Test series. To be honest I thought Pakistan would struggle in Tests and win in ODI's, because that's how it was the past year. But now it's the other way around.

Pakistani bowling isn't that either. They really bowled well during the last Test, where the pitch provided support for bat and ball. Asif and Gul bowled really good in the past ODI, although Gul had almost each over one bad ball.

In other words: Pakistan and India are really close to each other.

 

[prarara]

What a joker. :laugh Especially he is saying this after Pakistan won the Test series. To be honest I thought Pakistan would struggle in Tests and win in ODI's, because that's how it was the past year. But now it's the other way around.

Pakistani bowling isn't that either. They really bowled well during the last Test, where the pitch provided support for bat and ball. Asif and Gul bowled really good in the past ODI, although Gul had almost each over one bad ball.

In other words: Pakistan and India are really close to each other.

I agree, its good that fans of both sides can come to a correct and rational judgement on the team disparities!