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Badani has been in impeccable form as of late (157* and 67 against Bengal). But, it seems like he won't be selected for some reason.
 
pal said:
Badani has been in impeccable form as of late (157* and 67 against Bengal). But, it seems like he won't be selected for some reason.

that just because politics within the BCCI. people like badani are missing out.
 
There are a lot of domestic players who perform well in only domestic matches but fail terribly in international matches!

According to my opinion, Badani didnt look a special talent! With the pool of talent that India has, the upcoming players need to be possess something special to break in! But once they break in and get good support, even if they deteriorate, they stay in! Thats the problem that Indian cricket faces!
 
Badani won't be selected anytime soon because there are players who have performed on par with him (or exceeded him) in the domestic circuit and also because he has made multiple appearances in the international team without looking really special.

Ganguly looking good with another half-century--a 69 not out so far.
 
sohummisra said:
Badani won't be selected anytime soon because there are players who have performed on par with him (or exceeded him) in the domestic circuit and also because he has made multiple appearances in the international team without looking really special.

Ganguly looking good with another half-century--a 69 not out so far.

AGAIN! Wow! This is awesome batting considering the time Ganguly has had in recent times! 88 off 129 balls with 1 six at a strike rate of 68.22!!!!

Bengal is losing this one most probably! This is usual stuff - Ganguly succeeding but Bengal failing! Whatever it is, Ganguly has made life harder for the tour selectors and the team management regarding a spot in the batting lineup! Whoever is dropped for the first test is going to find it very harsh!
 
saisrini80 said:
There are a lot of domestic players who perform well in only domestic matches but fail terribly in international matches!

According to my opinion, Badani didnt look a special talent! With the pool of talent that India has, the upcoming players need to be possess something special to break in! But once they break in and get good support, even if they deteriorate, they stay in! Thats the problem that Indian cricket faces!


Saying Badani didnt do well in International circuit wont be fair assesment of his carrear.

Badani has missed out purely because of Kaif's godfather and everybody knows who ???

Badani was the best Indian batsman in the VB series's last leg and stilll he was thrown out of the team .

Kaif till date seems to be in the team
Any reasons anybody ??????



Also the way Ramesh Powar was handled in the last Pakistan tour strongly makes one believe of the GODFATHER theory.

Just to save Harbhajan's place the guy was given 3 overs to proove his credentials against Inzamam.

Any reasons anybody ??????
 
Kaif is a brilliant match-winning batsmen, he played well in the videocon cup in Zimbabwe last year and saved India from 2 near defeats in the group stages. Kaif also played well in the final, since the videocon cup Kaif has been consistant and he is easily one of Indias best fielders.
 
Indiangod said:
Kaif is a brilliant match-winning batsmen, he played well in the videocon cup in Zimbabwe last year and saved India from 2 near defeats in the group stages. Kaif also played well in the final, since the videocon cup Kaif has been consistant and he is easily one of Indias best fielders.


Yes Kaif really played well against some breathtaking Kiwi and ZImbabwean attack.

Also even he failed in the first match where the team slumped.
In one of the matches against Zimbabwe played as if it was a 10 day match.

SInce then has he been consisent. Not a single innings of Kaif where in he has looked at ease since the Videocon Cup.

Talking of fielding even the Rhodes's and the Ponting's dont get a place i thier teams for thier fielding alone so Kaif is still atleast miles off them.

Kaif had survived till now because of Ganguly's leavarage. But now I dont see him moving ahead with this team for long.


Anybody has heard of Amol Mazumdar ????????? Did Kaif really deserves a place in the team in which Mazumdar hasnt got a sniff of ?
 
There were catches in the Sri Lanka series that I don't see too many other players in the Indian team taking, apart from Kaif. Kaif totalled 5 catches in the one game he played--most of them at silly point and forward short leg.

Rhodes and Ponting wouldn't make it to their respective teams on merit of fielding only because the overall level of fielding is high. There are many others in the Australian team (Symonds for example) that are miles better at fielding than most of the Indian team. A struggling fielding team like India need a Kaif in their team, if purely because of fielding, because he does often perform with the bat.
 
sohummisra said:
There were catches in the Sri Lanka series that I don't see too many other players in the Indian team taking, apart from Kaif. Kaif totalled 5 catches in the one game he played--most of them at silly point and forward short leg.

Rhodes and Ponting wouldn't make it to their respective teams on merit of fielding only because the overall level of fielding is high. There are many others in the Australian team (Symonds for example) that are miles better at fielding than most of the Indian team. A struggling fielding team like India need a Kaif in their team, if purely because of fielding, because he does often perform with the bat.


Then bring back AKASH CHOPRA in the test side cos there has been nobody like him in the recent times in any team for close in positions.

Also it is not like Kaif is the only good fielder in the Indian team. Yuvraj,Agarkar,Raina are really good for thier positions on the field.

Also the Badani's,and the Mongia's are not too far from Kaif in the fielding dept. but Kaif seems to be lagging behind these guys.
 
Badani is a good fielder. I feel the catch which Kaif took leaping over him sums it perfectly. Badani is perfectly capable, and really good, but has been overshadowed by Kaif. That catch was heading straight to Badani, but Kaif decided to leap in and take it, like he took Badanis spot.

Mongia, Badani, they are all good. But just dont recieve credit.
Then again, Kaif has done pretty well. If anyone deserves that test spot when Ganguly is gone, its Kaif.
 
ronny_kingsley said:
Then bring back AKASH CHOPRA in the test side cos there has been nobody like him in the recent times in any team for close in positions.

Also it is not like Kaif is the only good fielder in the Indian team. Yuvraj,Agarkar,Raina are really good for thier positions on the field.

Also the Badani's,and the Mongia's are not too far from Kaif in the fielding dept. but Kaif seems to be lagging behind these guys.
One dropped catch can cost the match. Gambhir is the only replacement for Kaif in that area--Chopra is not even in the radar. That's like saying bring Robin Singh back into the team--you gotta keep some context. It's not like Kaif has stalled the momentum of the team and never delivered. The Badani's and Mongia's have always performed in the domestic circuit--but what happens when you give them the international cap? They fail to make a remarkable contribution. Kaif has won games for India, he is the best fielder (by far) in the current Indian team, and he knows how to run between wickets. I just hope that India aren't put too far back in the fielding department against Pakistan, in the test series.
 
sohummisra said:
The Badani's and Mongia's have always performed in the domestic circuit--but what happens when you give them the international cap? They fail to make a remarkable contribution.
It would be absolutely wrong to comment that Badani has failed miserably in Intl. cricket.
Badani scored a hundred in his debut series against Australia and always chipped in with the 30s and 40s coming in at No.6/7 .
His last few inns have been 35*,22,35,27*,41,30,34*,60*,18,8* .
Most of those coming at No.6 and No.7 .
We all know, there are many players who manage to stay in the team with performances worse than the above .

He has only got a place in the team when one of the middle order batsmen have got out . For me, he should have got another chance in this home ODI season against SA and SRL .
Badani has never got an extended run. He has been in for a game or two but even if he did not get a chance to bat, he was dropped .
His last ODI was against Pakistan at Karachi but eventhough he did not get a chaance to bat, he was dropped .

And Sohum, Badani is a good enough fielder . A very athletic fielder and a useful ODI bowler.
 
Allright, India has arrived now in Pakistan in Lahore. Apart from the players who were playing for their domestic teams.
 
aditya123 said:
It would be absolutely wrong to comment that Badani has failed miserably in Intl. cricket.
Yes, and that's why no one made that comment.

Badani has played 4 test matches--3 against Sri Lanka and 1 against Zimbabwe, and scored 94 runs at an average of 15.66, with a highest score of 38. I may have incorrectly assumed that we were discussing the prospect of Badani in the Test line-up, since that is how I presented my argument.

In ODI batting, his last 10 innings have been (in newest to oldest)
8* v. Pakistan
18 v. Aus
60* v. Aus
34* v. Zim
5 v. Zim
1* v. Zim
15 v. Zim
30 v. Aus
41 v. Nzl
27* v. England

A load of not outs considering he comes lower down the order, but only one half-century. A very good average of 42.75. Badani is a good batsman but there is no point for him to come down lower down the order, especially in ODI's. And India's current ODI line-up certainly does not need him down the order. The ideal place to fit Badani in would be the upper-middle order, something that is now crowded by Sachin, Sehwag, Laxman, Yuvraj and Ganguly.

ZexyZahid said:
Allright, India has arrived now in Pakistan in Lahore. Apart from the players who were playing for their domestic teams.
So is the practice match being started tomorrow, or a day late, on the 8th?
 
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