India Team Discussion

[Bigby Wolf]

The biggest question is now Rahul will be the vice captain in all formats and that's really hard to swallow.

I will stop supporting Indian Cricket if Rahul becomes a full time Indian Captain.

 

[AliB]

I will stop supporting Indian Cricket if Rahul becomes a full time Indian Captain.

The phase of life says that, only a couple of years of a die hard fan is left in me...

 

[SMMODS]

Hopefully India and Pakistan still qualify for the WTC final in 2023, before he retires. He'd be almost 35 then.

Pakistan will qualify but India won't because of stupid issues.

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

Indian cricket post-mortem after the defeat to SA - I think there is this uncomfortable equation out there where Kohli's brash image does not align with a coach who's equally or even bigger than Kohli himself. Happened with Kumble (Kumble is as big as Kohli) and now seems to be happening with Dravid (Dravid is bigger than Kohli in Indian cricket). I don't think the way forward for Indian cricket is to have these kinds of combinations. And in such a case, Kohli the captain HAS TO GO!

@SaiSrini do you think there was a discussion regarding this in the Indian team as well and hence we see Kohli stand down as India's Test Captain today?

 

[Bigby Wolf]

The Downfall of Indian Test Rise has begun.

Transition phase with ageing players in the squad, lack of first class cricket in India.

The rebuilding will again take time not only the batting order but even bowling particularly the spin department will need a rebuilding.

The Ashwin - Jadeja combo is only a few years now and I can't even name a proper backup spinner for them maybe Kuldeep and Axar but the former looks like a someone who lost his form and confidence big time.

The batters - Rahane,Pujara has to go and in couple of Years Kohli and Rohit will go as well age is against them too.

The likes of Iyers, SKY or whoever is backed needs a good run to prove their merits in all conditions.

Pace Department - Bumrah ,Shardul & Siraj are the future but Shami,Ishant and even Umesh are at their last phase and the others needs to setup up.

Won't be surprised if we end losing to Australia at home with the current fiasco.

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

Won't be surprised if we end losing to Australia at home with the current fiasco.

Same was said before England toured Australia.... And now England is not even close to competing.

 

[SaiSrini]

@SaiSrini do you think there was a discussion regarding this in the Indian team as well and hence we see Kohli stand down as India's Test Captain today?

Won't be surprised if it played a role in Kohli's decision. With Dravid's entry and how Kohli used up all his power to oust Kumble from the coaching role in full public view, he did not have the power to re-do it anymore. He quit T20I captaincy, was removed from ODI captaincy because India wanted one single captain in limited overs. Kohli lost his power even before Dravid and the new support staff took over. This series result just drastically fast tracked his decision to move on from all captaincy.

 

[wasteyouryouth]

Hopefully, in time, more people begin to appreciate what Kohli (and Shastri) did for the team. My memory of most Indian teams are that they were quite meek and too gracious when it came to losing. This one is relentless and determind. A real reflection of the captain.

Thought for a while that the next Indian captain will probably be lauded, yet the groundwork has been put in place over the last few years.

And Kohli haters, I'm not here for a debate. So, don't bother trying to start one.

 

[icyman]

Going back to what I had brought up some time ago. With Dravid in the hot seat, Virat was bound to be sacked. As aforementioned, this could have been a prerequisite from Dravid in order to take up the job.

Personally, I am happy with Kohli out of the picture. Indian cricket, while strong in bilaterals, hasn't really come up trumps wherever required. The aggression has to be displayed in a proper manner, not by doing monkey jumps up and down everytime.

The big question - who will lead? I think for the next 2 years , you'll see Rohit leading, with 2 vice-captains. Akin to what Australia did with Paine+Head/Cummins. The BCCI dont have a clue on the next captain and the best case is to have multiple people in leadership positions to ascertain their potential. Also, do not rule out a wild card like Shreyas getting it.

Hopefully, in time, more people begin to appreciate what Kohli (and Shastri) did for the team. My memory of most Indian teams are that they were quite meek and too gracious when it came to losing. This one is relentless and determind. A real reflection of the captain.

Yes, they had their time. But, history wont remember them as they didn't win any major tournaments. In terms of Test, we were number 1, but it doesn't matter cause we didnt win the WTC. In bilaterals, we didn't win in NZ, Eng, SA under this combine.

For Australia, we won one series against a pathetic Aussie setup. Ideally we ought to have taken that 4-0,but no. The recent Aussie series, was won by Rahane-Shastri. So, whichever way I look at it, Kohli, good captain, but didnt achieve anything for the country, bar that 2008 U-19 World Cup.

 

[wasteyouryouth]

Going back to what I had brought up some time ago. With Dravid in the hot seat, Virat was bound to be sacked. As aforementioned, this could have been a prerequisite from Dravid in order to take up the job.

Personally, I am happy with Kohli out of the picture. Indian cricket, while strong in bilaterals, hasn't really come up trumps wherever required. The aggression has to be displayed in a proper manner, not by doing monkey jumps up and down everytime.

The big question - who will lead? I think for the next 2 years , you'll see Rohit leading, with 2 vice-captains. Akin to what Australia did with Paine+Head/Cummins. The BCCI dont have a clue on the next captain and the best case is to have multiple people in leadership positions to ascertain their potential. Also, do not rule out a wild card like Shreyas getting it.


Yes, they had their time. But, history wont remember them as they didn't win any major tournaments. In terms of Test, we were number 1, but it doesn't matter cause we didnt win the WTC. In bilaterals, we didn't win in NZ, Eng, SA under this combine.

For Australia, we won one series against a pathetic Aussie setup. Ideally we ought to have taken that 4-0,but no. The recent Aussie series, was won by Rahane-Shastri. So, whichever way I look at it, Kohli, good captain, but didnt achieve anything for the country, bar that 2008 U-19 World Cup.

I guess no one remembers Clive Lloyd's West Indies cause they didn't win the WTC.

 

[Till Valhalla]

Hopefully, in time, more people begin to appreciate what Kohli (and Shastri) did for the team. My memory of most Indian teams are that they were quite meek and too gracious when it came to losing. This one is relentless and determind. A real reflection of the captain.

Thought for a while that the next Indian captain will probably be lauded, yet the groundwork has been put in place over the last few years.

And Kohli haters, I'm not here for a debate. So, don't bother trying to start one.

I guess no one remembers Clive Lloyd's West Indies cause they didn't win the WTC.

Bro, you know cray gonna cray.

 

[Bigby Wolf]

This very moment changed Indian cricket and what we saw in the next 7 years a brand of cricket which was never seen before by the Indian Team.

Selection issues and batting collapses might have caused a couple of series but the overall mindset and performances of this should be forever remember under the leadership of Virat Kohli.

The Test cricket was never so exciting to watch before involving a Indian Team especially overseas where as a Indian you were always has a chance to or the mindset of always go for the win.

 

[SaiSrini]

Kohli has a lot to offer as a batsman and despite lean patches of form, he is still a prized wicket for any bowler in the world. His batsmanship cannot be criticized even by his most ardent detractors as there is almost nothing to criticize there. Everyone knows that he's on a lean patch ONLY by his own lofty standards.

Hoping sincerely that he uses this period to scale serious peaks as a batsman and tries to break whatever records Sachin had set!

 

[Skankhunt_42]

Umm... Heard you all fellas! It's a shocker of a decision for sure, however personally I felt it's good. A team with ice and fire and multiple groups within, can't be a team at all. You talk about winning mindset, giving back attitude, made us play the way we did. I'd say this made Kohli believe he's non replaceable as captain. If he plays, he will as captain and field a team as he see fit. Did Dada lack that aggression? No, but he was a leader. Sadly kohli is more like a dictator. Sounds funny I know, hope you get it.
Every captain in team india, groomed a future captain from within. Who did kohli groom or atleast helped in leadership role? None. We may lose few future series. We may miss this WTC final. But I'm hopeful we'll definitely win a major ICC silverware soon. As of future captains, as funny as it sounds, I still feel Rahane is the man to lead in Tests. Rohit in White ball cricket. Rahul and Shreyas to be groomed for future.

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

I would just end up with Kohli had a leader in him that failed to grow with time. Again not gonna jump on that bandwagon why and how.......

My views on his leadership are just inconsistent. If I speak in his support people will come up with counter criticisms and call me dull on my Cricket knowledge and if I speak against him I will be tagged as a hater!