Indian tour of South Africa, December-January 2010/11

What will the result of the Test series be?


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in swing, traditional swing where the ball deviates into the batsman. The shiny side of the ball will be away from the batsman. For reverse swing, the ball will swing back in late when the shiny side is towards him. Hence, reverse.

Cutter is deviation off the pitch. They flick it out of the fingers and wrist in a way that they can get it to move after pitching one way or the other.
 
in swing, traditional swing where the ball deviates into the batsman. The shiny side of the ball will be away from the batsman. For reverse swing, the ball will swing back in late when the shiny side is towards him. Hence, reverse.

Cutter is deviation off the pitch. They flick it out of the fingers and wrist in a way that they can get it to move after pitching one way or the other.

So traditional swing can be inswing or outswing. I thought it swung towards the shiny side but I was wrong. When it swings towards the other side of the ball (the shiny side), that's reverse swing, which can also swing into (inswing - off to leg) or away from (outswing or away swing - leg to off) the batsman. Interestingly swing from leg to off is always outswing, even when it knocks over the stumps!...

As for deviation off the pitch, when the ball deviates off the seam (ie. lands on one side of the seam and thus deviates in that direction), that's called seaming. That can also go either way ('seaming in', 'seaming away/out'). A cutter is when the pace bowler puts sidespin on the ball like a spinner, to make it deviate off the pitch that way. Legcutters deviate from (the bowler's) right to left; offcutters from left to right. Whether the bowler or batsman is left- or right-handed makes no difference.

An 'in-cutter', IF such a thing existed (it doesn't), sounds like it would be the same as an off-cutter to a right-hander (or a leg-cutter to a left-hander).

EDIT: On Jan 7, 2011 at 9.23pm AEDT I edited the above to make the following changes:
Traditional swing is away from the shiny side of the ball - Cricketman was correct.
A legcutter always deviates from the bowler's right to left, and an offcutter from left to right, regardless of which hand it is delivered with, or whether the batsman is left- or right-handed.
 
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So "Swing" and "Seam" + "Cutters" and "Reverse"

DS is a swing bowler and Morkel is a seam bowler? Can a bowler be both swing and a seam bowler? Do they exists or did they ever?
 
Yes you can swing the ball through the air then get movement of the seam when it pitches. So that's swinging and seaming, the bowling I like to watch.
 
There was a zoomed in slow-mo replay that showed the ball just bouncing in front of Boucher's right hand before he pouched it. Thats why Boucher didnt appeal at all (he didnt even go up along with his mates who went up only mildly).

Hold up, are we talking about the same ball? The one at the start of the 3rd day, when Tendulkar appeared to edge one of Steyn and Boucher caught it and it was him and the slips that went up but Steyn didnt appeal as hard as Boucher.
 
Hold up, are we talking about the same ball? The one at the start of the 3rd day, when Tendulkar appeared to edge one of Steyn and Boucher caught it and it was him and the slips that went up but Steyn didnt appeal as hard as Boucher.

Oh ok, I think I might have got it wrong as far as Boucher's appealing goes. But I think we both are talking about the same ball. It was the talking point of the day, and Ravi Shastri and Kepler Wessels analysed it and the slow-mo replays suggested that the ball might have bounced.

Predicting a South Africa day! Hope I am wrong. But gives me a slight feeling SA will set this match up well for themselves and have India under the pump. They are under pressure (remember a drawn series is almost as good as victory for India) and so they might just do well. Just hope my prediction falls flat.:D
 
i wish i could watch this series, enjoyed the first 2 days of the Durban test when I was in Australia. :(
 
Beauty Bhaj!!! WHAT AN EARLY WICKET!!! Bhaj has already taken all 3 wickets to have fallen so far, and he looks threatening for a lot more. My prediction on Bhajji is turning out right so far.:clap:cheers

Bhajji's loop is back, and the turn he is getting from this wicket is amazing! The only option for SA might be to go out and attack him. If they try to play him out, I guess they will get ripped out.

Edit: Bhajjjjjjiiiiiiii!!!!!! Amla gone too! What a stunning start to the day by the Turbanator. Will he do a "Kumble's Kotla" here? Would be awesome! He is bowling superbly, really superb
 
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Get Kallis out here, and I think India will start thinking of a historic series win already. Hope we get him soon
 
Can India do the impossible? I guess they wont have a better chance than now!
 
just gonna say south africa were doing well until now, de villiers shouldn't have been in two minds there.
 
Great chance here to roll SA out under 175. This pitch though is far worser to bat on than I thought it would be. Definetely now even a target of 175+ looks very challenging.
 
If SA reach 200 here, they should feel really comfortable. Kallis is being posed with lot of questions because of the pitch. Even for the fast bowlers, its spitting off the wicket and giving lot of troubles. I wouldnt want India to chase anything over 180.
 

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