India's Tour of South Africa Dec 21 - Jan 22

[Sherlock Holmes]

During net practice he got injured in hand

Hence he is disKohlified from the test series.

 

[GOKUL RAJ K]

Hence he is disKohlified from the test series.

 

[SaiSrini]

Rohit Sharma has been ruled out of the test series, and is likely to miss out on the entire tour! (Source: Cricbuzz)

WOW! Not even a week since he was announced full time captain in white ball and new vice captain in tests! This should make things interesting. BCCI has announced Priyank Panchal as the replacement for the tests, but haven't announced who the vice captain will now be. I wish they give it to Pujara or Ashwin. It'll be utter nonsense if they hand KL Rahul the vice captaincy in test cricket.

And if Rohit ain't ready for the ODI's and T20I's, then KL Rahul to captain? BCCI wanted to run away from the vice captaincy discussion, but destiny (Rohit's injury) is making them confront the situation.

 

[icyman]

Virat won't be playing the ODIs- dunno the reason, but he has told the BCCI so. Signs of a cold war are evident. If this is the attitude they are going to display, we are better off without him as a captain

 

[Targaryen]

Virat won't be playing the ODIs- dunno the reason, but he has told the BCCI so. Signs of a cold war are evident. If this is the attitude they are going to display, we are better off without him as a captain

I don't know how you cooked this news. I only found the articles which says his phone is switched off and is unavailable to anyone whether BCCI officials, selectors or anyone. They were calling him since he didn't come for the practice session.

Cold war? Ofcourse it is a cold war. First you remove him from the captaincy, then replace him with Rohit. And not even mention him in your announcement. After 24hrs of backlash, you come out and thank him. There should be some kind of dignity there, if not for the player, atleast for the position he held. Shameful. What if this happened to Dhoni?

Evidently, Mumbai lobby has started. Most of the so called 'coldwar' participants are from Mumbai and surprisingly though started praising Rohit Sharma. What's going on? Some sort of UFC faceoff? On the other hand Ganguly justifies this by saying that they requested Kohli to not give up T20 captaincy. And they are the same people who kicked him out... It won't be surprising to see him out of team in next 6 months.

 

[icyman]

I don't know how you cooked this news. I only found the articles which says his phone is switched off and is unavailable to anyone whether BCCI officials, selectors or anyone. They were calling him since he didn't come for the practice session.

This guy is TOI's cricket correspondent.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Indian cricket is suffering due to egos of the players and the board.

 

[icyman]

Cold war? Ofcourse it is a cold war. First you remove him from the captaincy, then replace him with Rohit. And not even mention him in your announcement. After 24hrs of backlash, you come out and thank him. There should be some kind of dignity there, if not for the player, atleast for the position he held. Shameful. What if this happened to Dhoni?

I think it was coming. The fact that India regards its players as demi-gods makes it difficult to take a rational cricketing decision. If you go by the Australian template, the captain is given an end goal that he needs to achieve. If he isn't able to, then he has to step aside. Look how Bailey and White took over the reigns from the incumbent as they weren't able to make a mark in T20s.

Now, the BCCI has always had a problem with communication. Its also been at least 24 years since the last captain was sacked- either Azhar or Sachin. I do not get your point about dignity here- the board is well within its right to sack a sitting captain for his failure in bringing home an ICC trophy. There have been multiple reasons cited against Kohli, but let's not go there.

Lastly, what if this happened to Dhoni- It was going to happen, but the President intervened. Mohinder Amarnath got sacked and MSD continued on. I really don't think there's a need to harp on if this were to happen to MSD or not. IMO, even if it did, great- MSD is just another player. Sacking of a captain can happen to Rohit as well, or anyone in the near/latter future- don't make a big deal out of it.

Evidently, Mumbai lobby has started.

I fail to understand this 'Mumbai lobby'. Yes, there was a time when we had a lot of players from Mumbai-the reason being they were good enough in domestic cricket. today, you see a similar trend from Mumbai and more so from Karnataka who have provided some great players over the years. I have to agree that the selection in the past few years has also been aided by IPL performances- where MI has ruled the roost.

However, when you say 'Lobby', this amounts to bias and blatant favouritism wherein the non-deserving players are selected ahead of others. I do not think this has happened to anyone from Mumbai recently. If you count Shaw's inclusion in Adelaide, well, yes, but there after no. Iyer deserved his spot, so do the others.

The 'Mumbai lobby' has reared its head on account of Rohit Sharma being appointed captain. In all honestly, do tell me if there was a better alternative to him? If they had gone for Shreyas Iyer, then again talks of the lobby would emerge. However, if they went with KLR, no one would say 'Karnatake lobby' despite KLR's clear preference for players of his mother state.

 

[SaiSrini]

Wow, this “Mumbai Lobby” phrase is back? Such nostalgic ode to the 90’s

This is just like how every time MI does well, they are accused of buying the umpires or CSK is accused of match fixing every time they win.

MI players have done extremely well in the last two years and deserve their opportunities. Only SKY is a Mumbai guy. Kishan is Jharkhand. In fact Hardik is losing out on his place and is almost ready to be relegated permanently until he bowls full time and returns to form.

Its not coincidental that Rohit pulls out in tests (where Kohli is captain) and Kohli is pulling out of ODI’s where Rohit is captain. It’s being reported that it’s due to Kohli daughter birthday, but that’s actually clashing with 3rd test. But he’s reported to skip ODI’s. Totally understand family priorities (I backed Kohli when he took paternity leave), but something’s not right that’s happening behind the scenes.

 

[Neo 7]

Perfect timing to watch Inside Edge series , if you haven't ...

 

[icyman]

Perfect timing to watch Inside Edge series , if you haven't ...

Its brilliant!

Picked up almost every controversy from cricket and have managed to put it in there..
1. Spot fixing of IPL
2. Doping in cricket
3. International Fixing
4. Declaration of first innings of test match
5. TV rights war between Dalmiya and ZEE
6. ICC awarding CWC rights to India
7. Rohit- Virat scuffle

Couldn't have asked for more...

 

[Targaryen]

I do not get your point about dignity here- the board is well within its right to sack a sitting captain for his failure in bringing home an ICC trophy. There have been multiple reasons cited against Kohli, but let's not go there.

I'm not talking about the rights when I said dignity. What I'm saying is, he is your outgoing captain, you have removed him from captaincy and you have your reasons. Fair enough. But the way they have treated him, no thank-you, no mentions, nothing. And after 24hrs they realise that they have to thank him for his services. If it was not for social media, that forced thank-you wouldn't have come too.

I fail to understand this 'Mumbai lobby'. Yes, there was a time when we had a lot of players from Mumbai-the reason being they were good enough in domestic cricket. today, you see a similar trend from Mumbai and more so from Karnataka who have provided some great players over the years. I have to agree that the selection in the past few years has also been aided by IPL performances- where MI has ruled the roost.

However, when you say 'Lobby', this amounts to bias and blatant favouritism wherein the non-deserving players are selected ahead of others. I do not think this has happened to anyone from Mumbai recently. If you count Shaw's inclusion in Adelaide, well, yes, but there after no. Iyer deserved his spot, so do the others.

You got the wrong definition of 'lobbying', my friend. It's not just blatant favouritism from the higher authority but also from the people trying to influence or persuade the officials to make certain decisions in their favour.

Ex: ‘Mumbai Lobby At It Again’ Gavaskar Wants Rohit To Take Charge From Kohli Before T20 WC

Let me clarify one thing here. I for one don't care if Kohli is the captain or not. Mind you, he has been at his best without the captaincy under Dhoni. I don't even mind Rohit or Iyer or whoever is the new captain. But the way you treated him was not good. If they were so solid with their decision they wouldn't have come out after a day or two and said - 'hey we thank him for his services' or 'hey we asked him not to step down' or 'hey we wanted one captain for white ball cricket'.

Dude, you are THE BCCI. You don't have to justify you actions. Just a simple thankyou would've been more than sufficient. Something like -

"We have now appointed Rohit Sharma as the captain of ODI and T20I squad. We wish him all the best in his new role. We also thank the outgoing captain Virat Kohli for all his services to the team as a captain over the years. Just to clarify, we wanted to have a single point of contact for white ball cricket. So we have picked one captain for both the formats."

And everything would've been settled then and there.

 

[Targaryen]

Wow, this “Mumbai Lobby” phrase is back? Such nostalgic ode to the 90’s

This is just like how every time MI does well, they are accused of buying the umpires or CSK is accused of match fixing every time they win.

MI players have done extremely well in the last two years and deserve their opportunities. Only SKY is a Mumbai guy. Kishan is Jharkhand. In fact Hardik is losing out on his place and is almost ready to be relegated permanently until he bowls full time and returns to form.

Its not coincidental that Rohit pulls out in tests (where Kohli is captain) and Kohli is pulling out of ODI’s where Rohit is captain. It’s being reported that it’s due to Kohli daughter birthday, but that’s actually clashing with 3rd test. But he’s reported to skip ODI’s. Totally understand family priorities (I backed Kohli when he took paternity leave), but something’s not right that’s happening behind the scenes.

As already mentioned in my previous post, you got the wrong definition of the word there. Deserving players are rightful placeholders in the squad. I remember India once had 6 players from Karnataka in the playing XI. All of them deserved to be there.

When you say,
1. 'I like Rohit as a captain. He gives the freedom to play."
2. "He is the best captain in IPL."
3. "He understands me well and gives me a freehand."
4. "We have a good relationship with Rohit bhai and Bhabhi."

It's like bribing your way into the Indian team. Lol

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

I don't get what's all this drama about Mumbai Lobbying and all. However, I do agree with many of the points you've mentioned @PresidentEvil but I don't get what has that got to do with Mumbai lobbying.

Don't get me wrong but haven't Kohli tried to influence the selection by not selecting Rayudu in the 2019 WC or by ignoring Karun Nair or may it even be keeping out the Indian Test vice-Captain for Rohit (ironically Rahane is a Mumbaikar). Haven't Dhoni tried to support Jadeja and Ashwin in ODIs despite their failures to perform Overseas? So what is wrong with a Mumbaikar- Rohit getting to lead India?

Didn't we ourselves want Kohli to step down & Rohit to get the Captaincy role? And now it's actually happening so what are we complaining about?

 

[Targaryen]

I don't get what's all this drama about Mumbai Lobbying and all. However, I do agree with many of the points you've mentioned @PresidentEvil but I don't get what has that got to do with Mumbai lobbying.

Don't get me wrong but haven't Kohli tried to influence the selection by not selecting Rayudu in the 2019 WC or by ignoring Karun Nair or may it even be keeping out the Indian Test vice-Captain for Rohit (ironically Rahane is a Mumbaikar). Haven't Dhoni tried to support Jadeja and Ashwin in ODIs despite their failures to perform Overseas? So what is wrong with a Mumbaikar- Rohit getting to lead India?

Didn't we ourselves want Kohli to step down & Rohit to get the Captaincy role? And now it's actually happening so what are we complaining about?

I've clearly mentioned what Lobbying means in my sense. Let me get you a direct meaning of it by Cambridge dictionary:

"the activity of trying to persuade someone in authority, usually an elected member of a government, to support laws or rules that give your organization or industry an advantage"

In other words, I mean to say lobbying by other players and not the captain himself. Once you get what I'm saying, you can go back to my post again and you'll get an idea what I mean.