Now tell me he isn't a chucker?!
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smssia0112
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That is the correct spelling of his name. When he came over for the World XI tour, he told The Age that it's spelt Muthiah Muralidaran, though popular spelling is Muttiah Muralitharan.
Meanwhile, the naked eye certainly can't be held above proper testing.
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Wait till the end of Muralis career, take away the wickets hes taken against bangladesh and zimbabwe, take away warnes aswell and im 95% sure murali will have taken more wickets than warne with these two taken away. Its not really muralis fault either that more teams want to play australia than sri lanka and that bangla want to play teams closer to them. Also the fact warne could of probably played more games and taken more wickets while he was banned bears no relevance as it was his fault. Murali cannot help the condition he has. Like they say if you got something special you may aswell use it to your advantage.
As to the chucking issue if he did chuck he would be out of the game by now, as you know the icc are quick to take players out of cricket and test them. So i dont understand why people think that they have taken exception on this particular case.
As to the chucking issue if he did chuck he would be out of the game by now, as you know the icc are quick to take players out of cricket and test them. So i dont understand why people think that they have taken exception on this particular case.
smssia0112
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When you do right now, even Glenn McGrath is ahead of him (with his wickets vs Bangladesh and Zimababwe removed as well).
So what? I'm sure at least half of the Aussie/India games were in Australia. Bowling in Sri Lanka and India means all those games were going to have help for the spinners. Plus whats so great about India. Sure they've been a good side, but hardly the top side. They're good players of spin sure.
I don't hate Murili or anything.
Murili is a great bowler. But Warne is better. It doesn't matter how many wickets Murili ends up with. He could have double Warne's. Most wickets doesn't make the best bowler. So who cares about the record.
Half of Murili's are Bangladesh and Zimbabwe anyway. Also, have a look at the bowling attacks. Australia have had legends. Sri Lanka have had Vaas. Murili bowled all day and had the chance at getting the wickets, where as in Aussie games, Warne had to take the back seat and watch McGrath, Dizzy, Lee etc. rip through sides in quick bowling conditions.
angryangy
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About 'Muralidaran'; Jayawardene is spelt 'Jayawardena' on his shirt, which you'd think would help out that Ch 7 sports reporter on Sunrise who calls him 'Jay-a-war-dean'.
To take the video posted earlier
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pR9v27FWBM
I think I can explain how the elbow deformity conspires in three dimensions.
The bit I'm talking about starts at around 51 seconds. At around 56-58 seconds you have a clear view of his arm appearing straight from a view forward of mid off. Freeze the clip at about 1:00; you should see his elbow bent backwards. Let the clip roll on. You see that massive backwards bend rotates with the shoulder, instead of drawing a circle with his wrist it orbits a massive arc as the shoulder rotates through the delivery stride, dragging the crooked elbow like a compass. At release it is rolling forward like any spinner, probably more something a leggie would than an offie. What you can see in the clip is that from one angle you can't necessarily see the arm bent all the time.
Still, you can't help but agree with Bishan Bedi when he says it's no good for kids. It really isn't an action you can or should teach. Attempting to imitate it with a normal arm will cause you all kinds of problems. It's also fairly evident that his ability to spin the ball is related to it.
On the other hand, uniqueness is what we love in great competitors and in the case of players like Malinga or Tait, it is often a desirable edge. Few have the sheer physiology to be good fast bowlers, fewer have the combination of mental and physical skill to be elite. We don't look to explain how it is unfair on slower bowlers.
To take the video posted earlier
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pR9v27FWBM
I think I can explain how the elbow deformity conspires in three dimensions.
The bit I'm talking about starts at around 51 seconds. At around 56-58 seconds you have a clear view of his arm appearing straight from a view forward of mid off. Freeze the clip at about 1:00; you should see his elbow bent backwards. Let the clip roll on. You see that massive backwards bend rotates with the shoulder, instead of drawing a circle with his wrist it orbits a massive arc as the shoulder rotates through the delivery stride, dragging the crooked elbow like a compass. At release it is rolling forward like any spinner, probably more something a leggie would than an offie. What you can see in the clip is that from one angle you can't necessarily see the arm bent all the time.
Still, you can't help but agree with Bishan Bedi when he says it's no good for kids. It really isn't an action you can or should teach. Attempting to imitate it with a normal arm will cause you all kinds of problems. It's also fairly evident that his ability to spin the ball is related to it.
On the other hand, uniqueness is what we love in great competitors and in the case of players like Malinga or Tait, it is often a desirable edge. Few have the sheer physiology to be good fast bowlers, fewer have the combination of mental and physical skill to be elite. We don't look to explain how it is unfair on slower bowlers.
jkartik
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hmmmm....whats so great about india ?? right......
well...the great thing is that the averages of both the spinners who are the best in the world is really average against us.....warne's even worse(as already mentioned) ! Plus, i never mentioned anything about india being the top side....just that their CONSIDERED as the best players of spin....
Here is an interesting and lightly related fact. Muralitharan has the defect in his arm which stops him straightening it. Consequently, the pace and spin of the ball is derived mainly from his wrist which can turn 360 degrees. Did you know that Monty's wrist can also turn 360 degrees?
aussie_ben91
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Yeah but Warne played 69 out of his 145 Tests in Australia at an average 26.39 with 319 wickets.
Whilst Murali has played 64 of his 118 Tests in Sri Lanka at a bowling average of 19.12 with 432 wickets & if you deduct Murali's stats against Zimbabwe & Bangladesh playing in Sri Lanka then his statistics drop to 311 wkts at 22.13 & then his taken 10 wkts in a match 9 times instead of 14 and you'd imigane his strike-rate would be higher aswell.
Go have a look at Warne's history playing in Sri Lanka. From 9 matches, he has had a 10 wkt haul 3 times, averages 20 & he striked every 39.60 delieveries. Now you'd imigane that'd be a bit better if he played more then half of his career in Sri Lanka occasionally against the competiton of Bangladesh & Zimbabwe aswell.
Whilst Murali has played 64 of his 118 Tests in Sri Lanka at a bowling average of 19.12 with 432 wickets & if you deduct Murali's stats against Zimbabwe & Bangladesh playing in Sri Lanka then his statistics drop to 311 wkts at 22.13 & then his taken 10 wkts in a match 9 times instead of 14 and you'd imigane his strike-rate would be higher aswell.
Go have a look at Warne's history playing in Sri Lanka. From 9 matches, he has had a 10 wkt haul 3 times, averages 20 & he striked every 39.60 delieveries. Now you'd imigane that'd be a bit better if he played more then half of his career in Sri Lanka occasionally against the competiton of Bangladesh & Zimbabwe aswell.
What does this have to do with Muralitharan's bowling action?
aussie_ben91
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I was justifying something I said in another post.
evertonfan
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I don't even know why people have to argue tooth and nail about who's the better of the two. Just accept them as two legends of the game.
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This might sound stupid but i can turn my wrist 360 degrees i think, does that mean moving your hand down to touch your forearm?
I think it means rotating you hand around in a whole circle about the wrist. So keeping the forearm and arm still.
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