Pakistan Team Discussion

[ahmedleo414]

Bad times over, gotta prepare for worse times now -_-

While I fear you may be right, we just have to wait and see

 

[Na Maloom Afraad]

While I fear you may be right, we just have to wait and see

Already rumors floating around about the return of departmental cricket, we might not have to wait long :/

 

[ahmedleo414]

Already rumors floating around about the return of departmental cricket, we might not have to wait long :/

well, boys it was fun while it lasted....

 

[WubbaLubbaDubDub]

Already rumors floating around about the return of departmental cricket, we might not have to wait long :/

What is department cricket?

 

[wasteyouryouth]

What is department cricket?

They basically have teams that are run by banks, other private companies and entities like the Water and Power Authority. There are some regional/city sides too. The players would be employed by them and play for them.

I think it's similar to Services and Railways in India or the set ups they have in Bangladesh and Sri Lanka.

It was what was in place before they reduced it down to the six regional sides in 2019.

 

[WubbaLubbaDubDub]

They basically have teams that are run by banks, other private companies and entities like the Water and Power Authority. There are some regional/city sides too. The players would be employed by them and play for them.

I think it's similar to Services and Railways in India or the set ups they have in Bangladesh and Sri Lanka.

It was what was in place before they reduced it down to the six regional sides in 2019.

So what am I Not understanding? How does it hurt Pakistan domestic?

 

[wasteyouryouth]

So what am I Not understanding? How does it hurt Pakistan domestic?

At the moment the best players are in six teams - with each team having a second XI playing a similar structure (just not first class). The department structure, in its last iteration had 16 teams, which means the talent pool is spread and the quality of competition will likely go down. From what I remember you usually had two or three teams having most of the best players and then a lot of other teams with less quality.

A player might get 10 matches of a similar, higher standard in one season right now. It might be half that with the department system.

 

[WubbaLubbaDubDub]

At the moment the best players are in six teams - with each team having a second XI playing a similar structure (just not first class). The department structure, in its last iteration had 16 teams, which means the talent pool is spread and the quality of competition will likely go down. From what I remember you usually had two or three teams having most of the best players and then a lot of other teams with less quality.

A player might get 10 matches of a similar, higher standard in one season right now. It might be half that with the department system.

That makes more sense. I think Ramiz did really well managing Pakistan Cricket. Sad to see him sacked!

 

[Bevab]

So what am I Not understanding? How does it hurt Pakistan domestic?

Adding on what @wasteyouryouth has already explained excellently, there’s plenty of rumoured nepotism and corruption in the departmental cricket setup with multiple people being there without possessing any real talent whatsoever. The current system has issues with a lot of domestic cricketers being underpaid or unpaid (not counting the recently delayed salaries) because they aren’t playing much owing to the limited teams but the level of cricket from what I’ve heard has been much better than in the past. From a cursory glance at recent domestic records too I think it is a fair point as in the past you’d have plenty of medium pacers averaging in the low 20s but they would be nothing more than cannon fodder at international level.

 

[Till Valhalla]

there’s plenty of rumoured nepotism and corruption in the departmental cricket setup

Like MS Dhoni and the cements company.

 

[Gurukirat]

Hello
For pakistan test vs NZ
Pakistan included Dahani, Mir Hamza & Sajid Khan in dec 26-30, 2022 1st test

Good Luck

 

[Bevab]

Rumours abound that Mickey Arthur will return to the coaching gig. Thoughts?

 

[ahmedleo414]

Rumours abound that Mickey Arthur will return to the coaching gig. Thoughts?

I like Mickey Arthur

 

[CerealKiller]

Rumours abound that Mickey Arthur will return to the coaching gig. Thoughts?

Would be great.

 

[wasteyouryouth]

Not sure if it's a sensible approach to install a new selection committee in about 48 hours.