Pakistan v Australia in England, June-July 2010

Smith I don't see as a number 6 just yet, his technique is hideous. Khawaja would make a better replacement with Smith doing an all-rounder sort of job in place of a full time spinner.

Don't have to look pretty to succeed, hes got the runs at FC and now hes got the runs at Test. And there is a spot for both anyway, Hussey time looks to be up in this format.
 
The last thing Ponting can do is to bring Johnson back into the attack.

Yet another Johnson bash. We get you don't rate him mate :yes If anything Johnson should be on against Umar Akmal for a while. He sucked him into a couple of cover drives that nicked through to slips in Australia. But will agree that he could be bowling a hell of a lot better.

Please drop North now, Khawaja ftw

Wow Marcus - you are doing your best to frustrate fans I tell ya :facepalm. I'd give him one Test in India to score at least 50. If not, I either play Smith at #7 below Haddin/Paine in the 2nd or try Usman depending on the series situation and how the pitch looks. Or maybe have a bat off between the 3 of them in the tour match in India (if we have one :sarcasm).

I said the same thing for the NZ tour and Marcus pulled out a century there so maybe he performs only when it's absolutely necessary to save his arse.
 
I think the selectors will keep Hussey around for just a little longer. Now North on the other hand, doesn't look at all secure. A good series against New Zealand saved his spot but the Pakistan bowlers have really exposed him. But Smith at No. 6? I don't think moving Smith up after just one Test half-century is the best move. Besides I'm pretty sure Hauritz is going to slot right back into the team or Australia could employ both Hauritz and Smith when they play in India. Who knows...
 
It's not about the half century, that just confirmed his batting ability. It's his 4 FC century at an average of 51, the kid can bat and knows all about steadying the ship.
 
i have a question though. why are so many aussies coming through that bat in this unorthodox manner. Hughes would be the most typical example, though johnson also to a lesser degree who was touted as a genuine all-rounder. katich is another one, he's been quite succesful until this test but I'm not convinced he'll have any sort of extended success, ashes will be interesting.

Where are the fundamentals going? well done to smith, he showed a lot of guts and dragged the aussies back from the brink but still his batting style looks suspect of going the same way as the other two if he loses form. no technique to fall back on. hughes was badly exposed once the opposition had got hold of a few tapes.

from what people are saying about khawaja he sounds worrying too. Wristy?
 
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Commendable fightback from us, not enough to force a win, our new ball bowling was very much lacking in both innings, it was quite poor actually. Very worrying for the ashes, forget India. Harris is the guy I like, Johnson and bollinger need to tighten up.
 
i have a question though. why are so many aussies coming through that bat in this unorthodox manner. Hughes would be the most typical example, though johnson also to a lesser degree who was touted as a genuine all-rounder. katich is another one, he's been quite succesful until this test but I'm not convinced he'll have any sort of extended success, ashes will be interesting.

Where are the fundamentals going? well done to smith, he showed a lot of guts and dragged the aussies back from the brink but still his batting style looks suspect of going the same way as the other two if he loses form. no technique to fall back on. hughes was badly exposed once the opposition had got hold of a few tapes.

from what people are saying about khawaja he sounds worrying too. Wristy?

Katich has already had extended success, since returning to the side in 08 he has averaged 54 and been our most consistent batsmen. After the 1st test I believe he was our most successful opener in terms of average, so he maybe unorthodox but hes getting the job done.

Can't really use Johnson as the media hyped him up after his 100 but hes never been anything more than bowler that can bat. As for Smith, I guess time will tell but unlike Hughes, he doesn't really have a weakness of note.

Allan Border said Khawaja was a left handed version of Tendulkar, Mark Waugh has said Khawaja is the most technically correct young batsmen in Australia, so I don't believe he will have any problems in that department.
 
it's not upto the players to decide that. If the umpire says its bad light... its bad light...

Stumps There's a thoroughly odd spectacle because the sun has come out and it's probably brighter than it's been all day, but the players are coming off the field. Pakistan could have opted for the extra half hour but Bollinger's late double probably just scared them.

Thats from cricinfo.

:laugh Smith is already in the team, drop Watson to 6 and bring back Hughes

You still in love with him.
 
Just saw some highlights, now we have Watson dropping catches at 1st slip. Hopefully just a one off as the next step would be Smith into there. I see with the Butt wicket Clarke was there so maybe hes a chance too.
 
Watson's spilled catch must be really hurting the Aussies now, just shows that you really gotta even take half chances while defending a low total but that was more than a half chance tbh.

Australia might have a little bit of a chance today, early in the morning there might be something for the bowlers without the sun.
 
Commendable fightback from us, not enough to force a win, our new ball bowling was very much lacking in both innings, it was quite poor actually. Very worrying for the ashes, forget India. Harris is the guy I like, Johnson and bollinger need to tighten up.

T'wasn't your bowling that cost you, it was the inability to build partnerships and survive the early period of the match when Pakistan were most threatening with the (new) ball. Most Tests avoid this kind of rolling over on the first morning, although they do tend to go too much the opposite way. Had the pitch, or the aussies, somehow managed to produce a 1st innings total of more like 180 to 250 then this would have been a good contest with another 130+ runs to get and seven wickets to go.

re Hussey. Since his 121 against England at the Oval :

10 Tests, 18 inns : 664 runs @ 44.27 (HS 134no)

He still averages over 50 and in his 17 series he has averaged less than 30 in just four of them. You simply don't have an average of 50 and be poor. And he's still averaging well over 40 in his last 10 Tests. And while you can pick out Bangladesh from a lot of players' stats, only 242 of his runs have been scored against Bangladesh in the one series

vs PAK/SRI/ENG/SAF/IND : 2808 runs @ 51.05
vs BAN/NZE/WIN : 1173 runs @ 51.00

About as close as you are likely to get. Katich on the other hand

vs ICC/PAK/SRI/ENG/SAF/IND : 2665 runs @ 41.00
vs ZIM/NZE/WIN : 1316 runs @ 65.80

Katich's career average of 46.84 boosted quite a bit by the weaker sides. As for Smith, give him some time before promoting him too far. Maybe he and Paine could swap every now and then, see if Smith could bat one place higher, but the principle reason I would promote a batsman (like Smith) is if he had lots of not outs and so far, albeit four innings into his career, he has none - more or less same as Paine.

If a batsman is left stranded a lot then you can make a case for promotion, although I think back in the 90s we had certain batsmen better suited to batting with the tail at six. I never liked it when Hick was six or seven because it wasted his ability to play big innings and he was not my first, second, third, fourth or fifth choice to bat with the tail.
 

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