Puddle Mafia 03 - Endgame

[barmyarmy]

It's funny how 2 of the 3 people I FOSed are suddenly FOSing me
Is this a concerted strategy you agreed upon in the QT?

@Varun - I think we need to hear your arguments, half-formed or not. It's very scummy to say you have theories and then refuse to share them.

If User and Zhuorb are somehow both telling the truth then that leaves a bunch of mafia amongst Aditya, Barmy, Manly, Abhas, BKB, thedon and Varun

@sedition - 2 out of 7 and you isn't that long odds really...

 

[Aditya]

It's not delaying my role claim, as per say. I'm basically hesitant to claim due to the simple prospect that if User and Zhourb both are telling the truth and I role claim, mafia's will have 3 role claims from town and 1 DV killed, with no mafia down.

 

[Varun]

Someone mentioned a few posts back, that if we're going to have a role claim from a townie it will obviously be a important one. So, this is to all the townies, if you want me to claim, I will but just think about it one more time, how you all are benefiting the mafia's. They are obviously succeeding in getting claims from us and we are allowing them to do so. TBH, mafia's are clearly being aggressive here and it's getting paid off. Another claim here and they already have 3 claims. That is, if we are believing User and Zhourb, which we are or else why wouldn't we lynch them!

I don't like this at all. I was gradually getting to believe you, but then you make a scummy post just before you claim? In those bolded lines, you really seem to be flopping. Either you have a very important role or you're just not able to think a claim being mafia. You're suspicious and everyone unanimously wants you to claim, there's no 'mafia's being aggressive here'. Only two people have claimed till now, and no one openly pressured them, so your argument fails.

 

[Aditya]

Alright, yes I have a important role. I'm the doc.

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This is why I was avoiding to role claim and doing everything but not to claim. Now, here we are. And pardon me for that 3 town role claim thing, I forgot that User belongs to third party. So, we have 2 claims from town and 1 third party.

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Forgot to mention, I had protected Colin last night.

 

[barmyarmy]

I'm assuming you can't protect yourself either. Damn. I was hoping if you had a PR it would be one that could be protected.
We can have a debate later on initial fake claims for doctors.

Unless of course you're doing what was suggested earlier and trying to draw out the real doc

 

[Manly]

Unlynch

The plot doth thicken.

Shall we change tack?

 

[thedon5]

thedon, I've no idea why lynched me while he had mentioned he is not happy with Zhourb's role claim. here. Now, explain me if you will, why am I being targeted for nothing? Absolutely nothing. However, he does get the benefit of the doubt here simply because he is a noob at mafia games.

That was before, I slightly misread the post where he claimed so it looked more suspicious to me than it was. I have since decided that it is more likely that he is indeed the miller after all.

I targeted you earlier on due to your insistence on lynching User very early on in the day, also your replies on the first day seemed a bit scummy to me as well.

 

[Varun]

So, you think it is you depicted in the writeup Adi? What do you think it means when it says your services were misplaced?

Doc is a tricky claim, we all know that. If you're doc, poor play. If you're mafia, well done. It'd now be extremely risky to lynch you without having the real doc claim, and if he claims you still take the benefit. I'd go with the former, because I don't want the real doc to claim if you're lying. But at least he'd know you're mafia.

 

[barmyarmy]

@Adi - why did you reveal who you protected night 1? Now the mafia know I'm unprotected tonight. Thanks for taking me down with you.

 

[Aditya]

No, you are not. My role doesn't mention that I cannot protect a person on consecutive nights.

 

[Manly]

...why wouldn't you protect yourself now your role is out in the open? Survival is the name of the game.

Besides, I don't think we've yet had a game with consecutive protections allowed.

Dick move.

 

[barmyarmy]

Well that makes me suspicious. The role almost always says that. You're not off the hook in my book but we can't lynch you yet.

 

[Varun]

@Varun - I think we need to hear your arguments, half-formed or not. It's very scummy to say you have theories and then refuse to share them.

Before you pounce on me again for not sharing my argument, I'm waiting for the current discussion with Adi to get over lest too much confusion is caused.

 

[barmyarmy]

It's over. He might be mafia but we can't risk lynching the doctor.

 

[Sedition]

It's funny how 2 of the 3 people I FOSed are suddenly FOSing me
Is this a concerted strategy you agreed upon in the QT?

@Varun - I think we need to hear your arguments, half-formed or not. It's very scummy to say you have theories and then refuse to share them.



@sedition - 2 out of 7 and you isn't that long odds really...

Hmm interesting, you seem to be trying to rewrite the facts yet again. 2/3 people are FOSing you? It's only been me as far as I can tell. Coupled with you claiming that apparently no one was suspicious of Zhuorb until after he claimed, which is false, and then twisting my words and suggesting that I thought Zhuorb claimed Miller in order to draw the actual Miller out, which is absurd, you're looking pretty dodgy now from where I sit. The way you're influencing things will certainly be detrimental to the town if you're mafia and people continue to follow.

As for Aditya's claim, kind of predictable with the heat he's under to claim doc if he's actually mafia. Unless there's a CC, then my initial instincts that he's just paranoid town and not bad mafia were correct. Will have to wait and see after everyone has responded to it.