Puddle Mafia 03 - Endgame

[thedon5]

Getting really suspicious of Barmy and Sedition tbh, looks like one of them must be mafia.

 

[barmyarmy]

@Varun - have you noticed that you and sedition are the only ones gunning for me?

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Lol. Well I posted that before reading TheDon's post but then again I did say he might be mafia a few posts ago...

 

[Manly]

@thedon - Who are you most suspicious of at this stage? I know you've pointed out barmy and seddy, but which of those would you be most keen for us to question further, bearing in mind that we could end up another two town down by the end of the next night if we pick wrong?

 

[Varun]

Colin, I'm just speculating upon the possibility that you may be mafia. What is wrong with it? Did you notice, only you have been gunning for me and Sedition? What does that prove?

 

[barmyarmy]

It proves that no-one else has caught up yet. I've also gunned for Zhuorb, User2010, Abhas, Aditya, Manly and TheDon at different points in the game. As you well know people's reactions to being accused are revealing. You, Sedition and TheDon are the only three who are defended yourselves by accusing me.

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What a surprise, go after the one person pointing out the inconsistencies in your posts Looking for more PRs perhaps? Moving on from Aditya before everyone's had the chance to CC? Hell even with User on Day 1 you quickly changed your mind from keeping him to lynching him, perhaps because it became apparent that the lynch was unlikely to happen when 2 players were inactive and BKB, Abhas, Zhuorb and Varun weren't on board.

I actually lynched him quite early and there was easily enough time for him to be lynched off. We couldn't get a majority despite the polar length of day.

and then at the beginning of today you were suggesting that people still wanting to lynch User are potentially dodgy, thereby offering some protection of sorts considering how many people seem to be following you. Getting really bad vibes now if things continue down that road.

if we don't do it now we might have to do it in a day phase later and let a mafia survive

The answer was in the bit you quoted.

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What I said was that lynching him at the start of the day with no discussion of anyone else would only benefit the mafia. I stand by that.

 

[thedon5]

@thedon - Who are you most suspicious of at this stage? I know you've pointed out barmy and seddy, but which of those would you be most keen for us to question further, bearing in mind that we could end up another two town down by the end of the next night if we pick wrong?

Well they are doing the questioning between themselves pretty well atm.

Sedition probably looking the more suspicious of the two at the moment but can't really say.

 

[Manly]

Yet they could both be Mafia and in their questioning of each other they make a case against a town which one of us pick up on and boom, town lynched. It's always best to have other people asking questions as well in this game.

Barmyarmy: would you say that the three people you mentioned that defended themselves from suspicion by attacking you are our three mafs?

 

[thedon5]

Yet they could both be Mafia and in their questioning of each other they make a case against a town which one of us pick up on and boom, town lynched. It's always best to have other people asking questions as well in this game.

Yep, true.

Barmyarmy: would you say that the three people you mentioned that defended themselves from suspicion by attacking you are our three mafs?

IIRC all he said with regards to me are that he finds me a bit suspicious, he didn't FOS me or anything, so I'm not sure how he could think me suspecting him is a defence of something that didn't even really need defence.

It would be fairly poor logic on his part to think that only suspecting him would be enough to consider us mafia.

Regardless, still suspicious of both though leaning more towards Sedition.

 

[Manly]

Yeah no he said the same about me, but he name checked three others that attacked him and said it revealed a bit about them.

 

[barmyarmy]

Barmyarmy: would you say that the three people you mentioned that defended themselves from suspicion by attacking you are our three mafs?

One maybe two. Hard to tell but definitely where we should be looking imo.
To answer thedons's question I said I don't have much of a read on either of you so you could be mafia. Different to me thinking your behaviour is suspicious.

 

[puddleduck]

At work till later so if someone can keep a current votes tally by just quoting my most recent post and updating it that would be appreciated, thanks.

 

[Manly]

Vote Count:

puddleduck - 1 (Manly)

 

[Varun]

What is it with pallu thanking posts here and there?

It proves that no-one else has caught up yet. I've also gunned for Zhuorb, User2010, Abhas, Aditya, Manly and TheDon at different points in the game. As you well know people's reactions to being accused are revealing. You, Sedition and TheDon are the only three who are defended yourselves by accusing me.

Still doesn't prove anything. Sedition's been gunning for different people I think. I have not gone after everyone, but have expressed my opinions on everybody.

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Well, actually Colin, looking back, my defense and my speculating you as mafia (accusing is inaccurate) have no connection at all.

 

[barmyarmy]

I partially agree which is why I'd like us to try and force a claim out of sedition before the day ends. As has been pointed out the mafia can block the doctor and kill him or me. If we were to lynch one mafia today there's a chance it would be the GF or RB and we could prevent the doctor being blocked.
The mafia are desperate for a no lynch right now. Either that or to divert us back to Zhuorb and User.

 

[Varun]

I don't find Sedition that suspicious though, and if he has an important role, it'd be all the more dangerous. Not defending him, but I don't feel it is really necessary with two claims already today, both useful for mafia (assuming both Aditya and Zhuorb aren't mafia). Miller helps them narrow down on people, and Doc is obvious. Yet, if majority of the players want him to (which they don't now), I hope we'd not benefit the mafia much.

I'd rather want the watcher if there to watch Aditya, and the tracker to track the suspected killer if that's what we need. I guess from the writeup there's one in this game. If we have the BD, he can twist things around?