Puddle Mafia 03 - Endgame

[Aditya]

You know what, Sedition's posts make perfect sense to me. I don't know how others find him suspicious and I'd be very honest here, feel whatever you want to, Sedition has looked town since day 1. Maybe because he was aggressive towards User, so was I. If anything, BKB hasn't really given me town vibes. What sense does it make, I don't generally like his gameplay? So what! Lynching me for being over defensive, at least I care to put forward a defense.

What I make out of my gamplay in this game is, aggressive towards User even when the rest weren't and I still am not convinced with him and he's been inactive too (which none of us are mentioning), I was also very aggressive towards Zhourb but then later realized that he might be telling the truth, I had no other choice either, even though I don't understand the point of why he didn't role claim on day 1 when there was no pressure on him, if at all he was worried about cop investigating him. Even after all this, I didn't go after him, I didn't want to be everywhere with lynching every other member who starts to look a little suspicious. He too has suddenly gone under the radar.

BKB, you aren't really convincing me with your posts, which in most of the games you do. You've gone after me by making points which I don't personally feel that are good enough for you to place a lynch upon someone. BKB, why did you favor me in terms of lynching above Zhourb? While lynching me, you mentioned that you want to explore another angle to the game, now your point doesn't really point to that direction, does it?

 

[Gaurav_7]

Unlynch: Aditya

He hasn't been cced so he is clear for me for now. I am not inactive. Just that I haven't got time of late to read these posts. I will try to do so if I can while on phone. But, don't count on it. I am very disturbed due to a friend of mine committing suicide the day before. So, I need some time off to get back. He was a very strong guy.. :'(

 

[thedon5]

Sorry to hear that User.

@Aditya: I agree that BKB is looking suspicious.

 

[Aditya]

@User - Sad to hear that. Take care man, don't worry about the game.

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I'll just apply some gentle pressure on BKB,

Lynch : BKB

 

[barmyarmy]

Now I'm even less certain about Aditya's claim. To believe sedition is one thing but to lynch BKB?

 

[Aditya]

Colin, I don't even care anymore about what anyone else thinks of my claim. I'm telling the truth, you wanna still lynch me, you may do so. You're the one agreeing with BKB, I'm not and hence I want to put some pressure on him. If you ask me, BKB hasn't looked convincing to me. I find Sedition's play more to be of a townie's than of a mafia, of course this could just be me.

 

[Abhas]

Apologies for being quite inactive, it's just that work-pressure has increased and I was expecting the game to have moved into the final stages by now when I signed up.
I'm not too sure about my analysis, I haven't been able to go through the posts thoroughly like I'm used to doing, however, this is a brief of what I think about the people:

1. Barmy - Neutral. Although I initially felt he was town inclined, the recent aggression has confused me a bit. He has defended Zhuorb, not that I have any problem with that, but he's basically pointing the gun at anyone who dares to look at him from a different perspective. I wouldn't call that completely pro-town play, because as townies, we are looking for clues from discussion, and we should look at all possible perspectives while discussing.
2. Manly - Leaning Neutral/Mafia. Hasn't done much to warrant a pro-town analysis.
4. Sedition - Neutral/Leaning Mafia. Although when I started the day, I assumed him to be the cop, however, I have a feeling I may not have made the right assumption. I'm suspicious, however, not as strongly as barmyarmy's advocating.
5. Zhuorb - Since nobody's CC'ed, I'm pained to believe he's the real miller. I'll definitely be keeping a very close eye on him, and he'll be my first lynch target if I smell anything suspicious. I hate millers.
6. User - Confirmed 3rd Party, but I'm not too convinced with his 'survivor' role. Like I said, there's definitely something more to his role, that being a night action. I would have liked to place him under more pressure, but looking at the unfortunate event that's taken place, we shouldn't expect him to be completely active.
7. theDon Absolutely null read. TBH, I havn't been able to analyze much of his posts, because I've not had much time the past couple of days. The tone of his posts has been diplomatic, so can't really say that's a town thing or an anti-town thing.
8. BKB Leaning Town. Not much to go from, however, looks pro-town to me.
9. Varun - Neutral. I don't think he's played any different from what he normally does. I probably see why others are linking him and Sedition, because he's advocated for him. I don't think this is an anti-town tendency. As mafia, you are more likely to distance yourself from the rest of your team-mates. Town players are likely to follow a chain of thought which they can relate to, and that's probably what he's doing. That said, I'll be looking into his posts a bitmore closely again to see if I can get anything.
11. Aditya - Leaning town. Has claimed the doc, not CC'ed, so I'm willing to believe his claim, but I wasn't happy with him revealing who he targeted at night. Could be a covert reason to clear Barmyarmy's name, because the way he said it, it looked like an afterthought. Clearing him for now.

(Ignore the numbers, I copy pasted from the first post, and deleted the dead)

 

[barmyarmy]

Colin, I don't even care anymore about what anyone else thinks of my claim. I'm telling the truth, you wanna still lynch me, you may do so. You're the one agreeing with BKB, I'm not and hence I want to put some pressure on him. If you ask me, BKB hasn't looked convincing to me. I find Sedition's play more to be of a townie's than of a mafia, of course this could just be me.

As I've said several times there's no way we can lynch you. We can however not trust you.

 

[Abhas]

Now I'm even less certain about Aditya's claim. To believe sedition is one thing but to lynch BKB?

Sorry, did I miss who BKB is?
Why can't anyone else have a different opinion than yours? I don't see anything wrong with Aditya's lynch on BKB. If we all try and find mafia based on permutations, there's no point of having a day phase discussion in the first place.

 

[barmyarmy]

Sorry, did I miss who BKB is?
Why can't anyone else have a different opinion than yours? I don't see anything wrong with Aditya's lynch on BKB. If we all try and find mafia based on permutations, there's no point of having a day phase discussion in the first place.

It was based on the premise he agreed with me. It's not really about different opinions.
If Aditya believes sedition and not me he should be lynching me and not BKB. At it stands he lynched someone who agreed with my analysis.

 

[Abhas]

It was based on the premise he agreed with me. It's not really about different opinions.
If Aditya believes sedition and not me he should be lynching me and not BKB. At it stands he lynched someone who agreed with my analysis.

That is not necessarily true. If two townies have different opinions, they are likely to confront each other on the issue. Most likely both would throw accusations at each other, thinking him to be mafia.
The people who try to take advantage of such a situation interests me more, and surely, if it is 2 townies fighting in the first place, mafia are likely to side with any one and get the other lynched.

 

[Manly]

Abhas you said you haven't been able to read the game thoroughly, which is fine, no issue with that at all, and you've given decent reasoning for each player in turn, except for me (I can see why you've said neutral/maf, I've not played particularly well and need to step up) and BKB.. You've said there's not much to go on, so why give him a pro-town read? Surely it's only a neutral read? Just something that's got me thinking...

 

[thedon5]

Why does everyone keep saying they can't figure me out? I've posted plenty.

So Abhas, you reckon Sedition is most likely Mafia out of everyone?

 

[barmyarmy]

Why does everyone keep saying they can't figure me out? I've posted plenty.

Because it's your first game and we don't know how you play.

 

[BKB1991]

Lol Aditya, the reasoning behind you lynching me is simply because I lynched you? I favoured to lynch you because you were more sus, you seemed to be over defending yourself and I believed Zhuorbs claim. Thats three reasons. Furthermore, everyone seemed to be after Zhuorb, and I wanted to explore a new angle and promote discussion on a different topic. You claimed, no one CC'ed. I believe you for now.

I cant be assed to post all Colins reasoning on why hes gunning for Sedition, because if you didnt read it in the last few pages, you guys probably wont read them again.

And Don, why we want you to post more is simply because we would like stronger opinions from you, why him, why not him, this and that etc. This way we are better able to judge your allegiance.

I havent seen Varun in the last few pages?