Puddle Mafia 03 - Endgame

[Sedition]

I haven't thought too much about the game since User's tragic news, and my heart truly goes out to him for having to deal with this.

I think though that since we can't seem to agree on things, there are likely multiple factions at work here. Perhaps SK, survivor and mafia or a cult or masons.

The only roles pretty much confirmed in the write-up were the roleblocker and doc, and since the only PR the mafia know is the doc, this puts us in a good position to get a result tonight and potentially a massclaim tomorrow will allow our results to narrow down multiple scum.

 

[ved_]

I don't really know what happened to User, but I believe whatever it is, he'll get over it soon.

Sedition, why do you believe that there is a SK?

 

[Aditya]

@BKB - Exactly, I am trying to improve my game but at the same time, I'm not happy about how I was pressurized to claim because I personally felt I was less defensive in this game but let's move on from this.

The game isn't quite planned out as of yet, even though usually when we're this far on day 2, the game starts to progress. Inactivity and replacements haven't helped us either.

 

[Sedition]

Sedition, why do you believe that there is a SK?

This is PD's third game and both of his previous games had a SK. They were 9 player setups and on this occasion we have 11. PD also said that he might have to rebalance since not all 11 of us were active in the beginning, which suggests to me that it was turning scum sided when I was MIA, Mark dropped out and pallu wasn't sure how to play.

Most games have only had 7 or 9 players starting, so the extra players are one reason why we haven't made as much progress as usual, but as I said, I feel there must be multiple factions with differing agendas operating here and that's why we can't reach any kind of consensus.. except for those forcing the doc claim out of Aditya.

The mafia don't know what other roles exists besides the doc, and if the SK is in this game, there's a good chance he hasn't figured out the mafia either and could potentially take one out for us. The temptation to kill will be great tonight after not doing so last night, so that's another reason why I'm suspicious of Barmy suggesting that he should be protected tonight, which potentially leaves 2 people wide open.

Despite this game already going for a month, we're only on Day 2 with 10 players left and it's too early to try to formulate a plan with so many unconfirmed players and roles. If our roles stay hidden for now, the mafia don't know which targets take priority and the chances of us catching at least 1 scum tonight are fairly high. Once we gather more info, then I think we can narrow things down considerably tomorrow.

 

[Manly]

I'm going to Wembley today so I'm going to be not online at, basically so I can only apologise for that!

 

[barmyarmy]

The mafia don't know what other roles exists besides the doc

You're working on that though right?
The whole mass claim thing...

 

[barmyarmy]

@Aditya - If you really are the doc I need you to protect me again tonight. Trust me on this.

 

[Varun]

Don't worry, Colin, you have reiterated it so much you're definitely not going to get killed. And by the way, why wouldn't the mafia target Aditya anyway? They know he's the doc, and they know nothing about you (supposedly). And they wouldn't care about him being doc anyway, since they can roleblock Aditya.

 

[Sedition]

If our PRs get results tonight, then a massclaim tomorrow could be smart no? There is potential for one depending on our results and what clues we can gather from the write-ups. Speaking of the write-ups..

Years of training. It had been expensive and gruelling. His skills were undoubted, but tonight, perhaps they were misplaced.

This line almost certainly refers to the doc, and if you were the one Aditya protected, then it being "misplaced" just casts further doubt on you in my mind.

 

[Varun]

IMO, it only means he protected the wrong person.

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Successful indeed. Depending on who you work for.

I've been thinking which roles fit this description and only Bus Driver seems perfectly viable. That's because he can choose what he wants to do, but not the consequences. So, he was successful in using the role, but the 'success' in terms of consequences would depend on his alignment, which could be both town and anti-town.

Is there any other possibility?

 

[thedon5]

I'm not sure how long 26 hours is in Duckton, but don't we need to make a quick decision?

Any chance that the years of training guy is the Cop maybe?

Also not sure why that final line with the depending on who you work for had to be a third party being referred to anyway. A bus driver does make a lot more sense to me IMO.

 

[Sedition]

I was starting to think it was a reference to a mason/cult recruitment, but our initial suspicions that a BD was involved with the misplaced and confusion references could fit. I dunno though, as I said before, PD views the BD role as somewhat of a protective one, so not sure if we have both a doc and bd.

 

[barmyarmy]

There are 26 hours left in the day.

Comes out to 6ish (about 7 hours time) but I'm sure he'll extend it if we're actually close to a lynch. Unlikely that we will be tbh.

 

[thedon5]

Should we just lynch User then?

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We've all but established he's a third party so it wouldn't exactly benefit us if he was replaced.

 

[barmyarmy]

Seems a bit unfair to lynch him. PD might be able to replace him.