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wasteyouryouth said:
I was delighted to see that loser get voted in again.

It was strange election. A mixture of emtions from delight, disappointment, hope and concern for the future.
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A case of FPTP leading to the less bad option. Labour barely gained anything, and had the same percentage in votes in England as in 2019. Reform splitting the vote and gains in Scotland gave them a big majority, but the electoral system is really broken.
 
CerealKiller said:
A case of FPTP leading to the less bad option. Labour barely gained anything, and had the same percentage in votes in England as in 2019. Reform splitting the vote and gains in Scotland gave them a big majority, but the electoral system is really broken.
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Yeah, it's good to see the back of the Tories but the question is will this Labour government significantly improve the lives of enough people in the country to win comfortably again. They have a massive majority but it could easily fall apart if the right united at the next election. The Greens now have a lot more target seats in play as a more left leaning, anti-austerity party too (I was pleased to see them win four seats).

Scotland, for the last 15 years, always seemed a little volatile and likely to produce three-way split votes. The entire country seems like that, this election, due to more viable options or the bigger parties losing and not increasing popularity.

Speaking of Reform. I cam across this :cry:

 
By the way, try playing the UK 2017 and 2024 elections here @wasteyouryouth
For the 2017 one, choose winner-take-all, and for 2024 proportional representation (the 2024 one doesn't have all constituencies yet but should be updated soon)

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CerealKiller said:
He's from Karachi just like @Na Maloom Afraad , not surprising at all
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No more Joe Biden! Frankly, this is horrific for the Dems here.

First, you propel this guy towards the nominations and ensure that he clinches every Dem primary on the way. Then, when he fumbles during his debates, you wanna pull the plug? Essentially, the guy isn't fit to be president, but is fit to run the office until the end of the year? Isn't this ironic?

Also, Biden pulling out doesn't mean Harris gets through directly. The Dems will probably figure out newer challengers here. Harris on her own has been largely invisible and there are a few better Governors who have the aura to be Prez. Lastly, what happens to the campaign donations now? Does Harris/ the new candidate get it directly? Biden should have had some sense before pulling out this late. A new candidate needs to make his presence felt among the masses. I dont think there's an odd chance that Dems can win from here- even if they nominate Ms Obama/ Ms Clinton from hereon.
 
icyman said:
No more Joe Biden! Frankly, this is horrific for the Dems here.

First, you propel this guy towards the nominations and ensure that he clinches every Dem primary on the way. Then, when he fumbles during his debates, you wanna pull the plug? Essentially, the guy isn't fit to be president, but is fit to run the office until the end of the year? Isn't this ironic?

Also, Biden pulling out doesn't mean Harris gets through directly. The Dems will probably figure out newer challengers here. Harris on her own has been largely invisible and there are a few better Governors who have the aura to be Prez. Lastly, what happens to the campaign donations now? Does Harris/ the new candidate get it directly? Biden should have had some sense before pulling out this late. A new candidate needs to make his presence felt among the masses. I dont think there's an odd chance that Dems can win from here- even if they nominate Ms Obama/ Ms Clinton from hereon.
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There's a better chance of winning with a new candidate than with Biden. His polling was awful and unlikely to get any better. He should have stuck to his word and never sought to run for a second term.
 
Harris too is behind Trump. For any new candidate to come in so late and pitch themselves is suicide. While there was a potential talk of Ms Obama, I doubt she'd want to get in at this stage. Agree that Biden should never have gone in for a 2nd term.

Looking at the speculations, Gavin Newsom might be their best bet at the moment. (for Prez). If Newsom gets on the Harris ticket, they will have ceded ground to Trump right away (cause all seats in California will have to be forfeited)
 
icyman said:
Harris too is behind Trump. For any new candidate to come in so late and pitch themselves is suicide. While there was a potential talk of Ms Obama, I doubt she'd want to get in at this stage. Agree that Biden should never have gone in for a 2nd term.

Looking at the speculations, Gavin Newsom might be their best bet at the moment. (for Prez). If Newsom gets on the Harris ticket, they will have ceded ground to Trump right away (cause all seats in California will have to be forfeited)
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If Gavin Newsom is elected, democrats are tweaked beyond their thinking. He is awful and has made California a shit fest. The rampage of crimes, his policies, the unnecessary taxes on middle class like toll per mile for EV's, etc. They will put forward a candidate who has no political career since nobody is winning against Doland Turump :p. Also a lot of democrats post the pew pew on Doland have actually shifted side for this election.

Both were horrible candidates to begin with, now there is a candidate and there will be a show piece. This is what happened after attempting to assassinate Ronald Reagan. The map in 2024 is going to be close to below.



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WubbaLubbaDubDub said:
If Gavin Newsom is elected, democrats are tweaked beyond their thinking. He is awful and has made California a shit fest. The rampage of crimes, his policies, the unnecessary taxes on middle class like toll per mile for EV's, etc. They will put forward a candidate who has no political career since nobody is winning against Doland Turump :p. Also a lot of democrats post the pew pew on Doland have actually shifted side for this election.

Both were horrible candidates to begin with, now there is a candidate and there will be a show piece. This is what happened after attempting to assassinate Ronald Reagan. The map in 2024 is going to be close to below.



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A serious question, is Kamala really being seen as a terrible candidate?

The only source I have seen at the moment is Reddit which has a huge left wing bias outside of echo chambers and she does seem to be soaring in popularity from their descriptions… especially compared to Biden. At the very least… I’ve seen that their opponents have been making even more bizarre statements due to being caught off-guard and those don’t seem popular at least.

Is the ground reality outside of the Trump echo chambers different to what I’ve put above?
 
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