Sachin Tendulkar

Should tendulkar retire?

  • YES

    Votes: 3 8.8%
  • NO

    Votes: 31 91.2%

  • Total voters
    34
  • Poll closed .
sachin scored a beautiful 52 today in quick time too when India lost 2 early wickets and was unlucky to be given out by bucknor
What do u have to say about that iceman ---- SAchin scored his 3rd consecutive 1/2 century today !!!!
Should he retire ?? Do we ned this topic ?? :sucks

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Tendulkar might be playing well but honestly is he the tendulkar who used to devastate the opposition in his early days? All right, you tendulkar fanatics we have heard lot about him being more matured and blah blah blah... but the fact is that the opposition does not fear him anymore they know that he will either eventually get out and even if he doesn't won't go all buns blazing. Its sehwag and Dravid whom the teams fear more than Tendulkar and that itself is an indication that Tendulkar has past his prime. He is slowing climbing down the long stairs towards his retirement. Mind you, I am not saying that Tendulkar is playing really bad or suggesting that he should be dropped. He deserves his place in the team due to his batting ability alone even today (irrespective of his seniority and demi-god status). He is definately one of the best batsmen in the world today but is less intimidating for the opposition. He is not the same Tendulkar who used to invoke fear amongst the best of bowlers. He is not the same Tendulkar I used to love watch bat, dominating and decimating the bowling with elegance and style and have everyone watching leave spellbound.
 
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But his batting is not all India will miss. His experience in the field, the advice he gives to his bowlers, his influence on the team as a whole, he couldn't do that 15 years ago could he? His bowling and fielding add to his value in the One Day game while the calming reassurance he gives to batsmen on the strikers end or the bowler when they look to him makes him an invaluable gem for the Indians.
By the time he retires there might be another to replace in the batting order, but no-one to replace him as a player.

EDIT: Love your sig. by the way......
 
Iceman...were u in an iceage when Warne claimed having nightmares of Sachin? were u hibernating when Murali was repeatedly hit out of the ground last year in Asia cup and so many times before it and the best spinners themselves claim that no one plays them better than Sachin...

I think you need to format ur biological harddisk and install a new OS...coz u got the data all mixed up...I remember it very clearly - Sachin sitting in Harare and telling us to stop being nuts...if you can't then i am not the one to treat amnesia...

I am not here to argue against Ganguly, Dravid or Laxman...I must say that when they are playing well all of them are a treat to watch...but their good batting(which has not been seen for a long time except from Dravid) should not be the reason why ppl start asking for Tendulkar's head...

I think he has amply answered ppl with his knock today...i hear that he was given out by a wrong decision from Bucknor...must be habituated by now...

rahul...a welcome change in ur sig... :) ... but i won't ever agree that teams don't fear Tendulkar... yes they have got others to fear now but it cant be said that they don't fear or respect him... ask the aussies or the english or anyone... and they don't have to say it just for the sake of it in this age where Warne can claim that Ranatunga has gulped down a goat...my point is that they fear that if he could have done it in the past, he can do it today too...and they are not giving undue respect to him...he deserves to be respected by fellow cricketers and revered by his countrymen... and they way he was playing today, u can rest assured that they are gonna do so time and again...
 
you guys still on this pointless thread.

Is Sachin reading this or the Indian team ? If not, its all a pointless waste of your time
 
fanirama said:
you guys still on this pointless thread.

Is Sachin reading this or the Indian team ? If not, its all a pointless waste of your time

I think u need to quit this if u arent interested buddy.. A good debate is going on here!!

On Rahul's comment, I feel the fear that the opposition had for Tendulkar has now turned into more respect! They dont fear him as much as they were before but they have more respect for him now. Fear and respect are two different things. He now can play really long innings (241* and 248* illustrates that!). Still, Sachin's wicket is some sort of a psychological advantage for the opposition.

Already now, we have some one in the form of Virender Sehwag to create fear among the opposition. Tendulkar has now transitioned into the Dravid mode. But still, once he gets his eye in, he plays his usual attacking shots and thats his strength. This is a new Tendulkar. One Sehwag is enough. If Tendulkar plays like how he did few years ago, they we would have two unreliable batsman (Sehwag included!) and thats dangerous when playing against quality opposition!

Today's knock from Sachin was awesome!! He was not out today (shocker from Bucknor!) and he has made his impact in this series so far in a great way!! 3 consecutive half centuries?? No failure yet??
 
saisrini80 said:
If Tendulkar plays like how he did few years ago, they we would have two unreliable batsman (Sehwag included!) and thats dangerous when playing against quality opposition!

Two unreliable batsmen? I think you forgot Ganguly and Laxman. Talk about unreliable--one day they come out with a flying century the next day they make you wonder if they really have played international cricket. The Sachin decision was bad but let's just hope they are able to move past that. Let those unreliable dudes finally follow up their bad performances with a good one--if we can get about 300 up on board tomorrow by the first two sessions, we can put Paki in for 4 sessions and try to get them out. It's a spinner's pitch, now.
 
though this is a thread abt the Master...but one must say Rahul Dravid has played two gems of innings in this test...wonderful batting...but then the praise should go in the other thread i suppose...

Sachin - given out to a bad decision otherwise, today we would have been rejoicing over one more record...
 
iceman_waugh said:
tendulkar
is he getting too old to play now.?
The way he played in the 1st test.....94 off 204 balls.Last time round he played slowly was in australia in waughs farewell test.he scored 241 off 700 balls.India had drawn that test too.
Does he desrve the backing he is getting from the players for playing slowly.?
I have only heard kumble backing him.
There were'nt any comments from the indian skipper on this.

Mate i dont think he took 700 balls for his 241 refer the jounal it was around 470, mate its insult to sachin
 
aditya123 said:
sachin scored a beautiful 52 today in quick time too when India lost 2 early wickets and was unlucky to be given out by bucknor
What do u have to say about that iceman ---- SAchin scored his 3rd consecutive 1/2 century today !!!!


I agree with that.

sachinisgod said:
Iceman...were u in an iceage when Warne claimed having nightmares of Sachin? were u hibernating when Murali was repeatedly hit out of the ground last year in Asia cup and so many times before it and the best spinners themselves claim that no one plays them better than Sachin...

he deserves to be respected by fellow cricketers and revered by his countrymen... and the way he was playing today, u can rest assured that they are gonna do so time and again...


Dear sachinisgod,i certianly was not in the iceage when tendulkar was in his prime ....his golden period. neither do i have any grudge against tendulkar to start this.....but my friend ,what i am talking about is now....his performance now....not in the past

If you take a dip in the pool of the past ,one cannot disagree that tendulkar has almost single handedly won 1/5 matches for india.also ganguly's past record shows that he is an excellnet batsman.
its not that i do not enjoy when tendulkar wins a match for india ,my point is merely whether he should retire by bowing to the pressure he is in right now?
No doubt that the aussies and english regard him one of the best .... remember sharjah 98.. , wc 96,99,03.
Now i wish to ask you lot whether he should take a break to come back fiercely or should he continue playing as he is.? i know that many indians would love to see the old tendulkar back?

About his dismal dismissal at the eden,it stupid of the ICC to have bucknor umpire anymore.......sad for tendulkar.....have never seen him show his anger to an umpire's decision.
i suppose the indian skipper had given in his report in one of the matches last year that bucknor is the worst ever a team can get.

fanirama said:
you guys still on this pointless thread.

Is Sachin reading this or the Indian team ? If not, its all a pointless waste of your time



Man you are still too young to be commenting on this.!! :p
 
iceman_waugh said:
i suppose the indian skipper had given in his report in one of the matches last year that bucknor is the worst ever a team can get.

I think the Indians have commented time and again on Bucknor's inconsistency and that is why the ICC continues sending him to Indian tours. Its kind of ****ing off in the end.
 
iceman nice that you've turned around a bit... :) ...took something nasty to jerk u off the slumber?

anyway...i personally still don't agree with u...abt sachin taking a break...i think he gets enough breaks becoz of his unfortunate injuries...in my view, he's got at least 3-4 years of cricket left in him...abt the sachin being his old self???

well for one thing i would like to ask this - when apart from that great year in 1997-98 did you see Tendulkar go rampaging in Sehwag or Afridi style esp thru out a day or a couple of sessions...i don't mean he's been a grafter or anything but what i mean is that he's never played it wham-bam and leave kinda innings...if he thinks he is in then he might up the tempo, he might try to get into the bowler's mind but as i said in a previous post of mine, he's never played a long and important innings that has come at run a ball or more...all such long and important innings have come at a steady pace of anywhere between 40-65/100...

i think the problem is that we look at his odi form and remember his sharjah and WC exploits and start imagining that he's always played like that in tests too...frankly i can't think of any other test matches except those classic Warne-Sachin clashes in Chennai and Bangalore and once in Bloemfontein where he tried to gallop at a great rate and scored significantly...in most others he's played shots that have pleased us all, but in moderation, exactly like he compiled his two innings of 52 in this test...frankly i don't see a big change in his approach...i am not saying that he doesn't play quickly in a session or a brief spell...no one who saw it will ever forget that second evening at Headingley in 2002, but the overall strike rate in that innings was less than 60...that means he had played out time when that was the demand of the hour...that's exactly what he did in Mohali...his first 50 in Sehwag's company came at around 75/100 but he slowed down when he got conscious of the record...end result 46/100...

we have to take into consideration that:
1) Sehwag is there to up the runrate if needed.
2) he's surrounded with good batsmen who can take the attack to the other camp when needed.
3) he's going to be 32 on April 25 2005...that's 16 years of cricket and if the fire's still there to play then we should only fan it and not try to call the fire brigade...

and abt that 97-98 series - i have only one thing to say...there's a time in a great player's career where he's got the real Midas touch...he can't put a foot wrong or place a shot wrong...but that doesn't mean that he's a pauper for the rest of his life...if we analyse careers of Viv Richards, Sunny or any other great from the past there's surely going to be a great peak in the middle where he scored big and quick...i think Sachin's just recreated Himalayas with his batting and the Everest came in 97-98...in terms of spectator's joy those tests and odi's were pure bliss...but other peaks are pretty high too...not many can achieve them...
 
I agree. Sachin was always in the more classical mould in test matches.He never batted like Gilchrist or Sehwag. In a few recent matches he eschewed his favourite off side shots, which was disappointing for the fans , but he still scores maybe just a touch slower than before. Except for the match in chennai in 1998 and bangalore in 1998 and a few others , his centuries have mostly been at a strike rate of 50s-60s.

Even last year in 2004 , he played a fantastic 141 against pakistan but the rest of the team let him down. For those with short memories ..remember in 2002..Sehwag was promoted ahead of Sachin and the same discussion was brought about.. but it was Sachin all the way in the 2003, world cup - actually some of his best cricket ever. Since then he has been plagued with injuries and has been in and out of most of the one day tournaments. His current form in the tests makes me think that we are in for a treat in the one days.
 
The current series - Sachin's innings average is 66.00 and test average is 99.00 (198 runs in 3 innings!). He is in terrific form this series along with Rahul Dravid and Virender Sehwag. I am seeing the Indian lineup getting back to their peak batting form. Karthick has contributed now. Laxman got a 50 in the first test. Ganguly is the lone man left. Let's hope he gets his groove back.

If this is how Sachin plays, I would love him to play this way always!!
 
62.9, 69.4, 70.8, 41.1, 55.7, 64.5, 63.3, 55.5, 68.9, 49.1, 66.5, 57.8, 52.2, 60.6, 81.1, 85.5, 74.8, 49.8, 52.7, 50.8, 63.0, 60.7, 52.3, 71.5, 54.7, 84.2, 52.2, 55.7, 45.0, 58.4, 59.0, 55.2, 55.7, 65.4

This is thelist of his strikerates while scoring centuries in chronological order from Manchester to Dhaka...its crystal clear in this list how he's preferred to play...
 

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