Spot Fixing Scandal Thread: The Legend Continues

[Sedition]

Shane Warne, he's an Australian all right! he was also alleged of match fixing, then we should throw out Australia too!

Plus, India's Shev Sina said that if Pakistan qualified for the final, they wont let us play in Mumbai. Isn't this terrorism?

You can't thorw a country out of something just because of some black sheep!

Shane Warne talking about pitch and weather conditions to an unknown is the case you're comparing to accepting money to lose matches, under-perform and bowl illegal deliveries?

I haven't seen any evidence of Australia or other nations doing the aforementioned Pakistan tendencies.

I guess if Pakistan qualified for the final and this Shiv Sena did something, then yes that would be terrorism. But I don't think anyone has to worry about Pakistan making the final, that would involve winning matches and losing thousands in bookie payments.

The PCB is a joke and nothing will be done to clean up cricket in Pakistan. Maybe when they're thrown out of real cricket, they can create PCE - Pakistan Cricket Entertainment - where all the matches are predetermined but no one cares as long as it's entertaining.

 

[Papa_Smurf]

I do somewhat agree with you, but do you think that Pakistan supported or even organized the attack on SL team?

No, ofcourse I don't. But you were implying the Shiv Sena thing was by India. And on the case of SL, the officals do have to take some of the blame. Proper security was obviously not organized.

I haven't seen any evidence of Australia or other nations doing the aforementioned Pakistan tendencies.

Have you forgotten about Cronje? The illegal betting circuit is a booming market. It would be premature to assume all their money is received just from Pak matches. I'm not implying that the other countries have their star players participating in these activities, but there is a reason why the ICC is worried about this.

 

[Varun]

Shiv Sena is ████ group of idiots. You should probably ignore what they say. (addressed to Coolboy)

 

[Sedition]

Have you forgotten about Cronje? The illegal betting circuit is a booming market. It would be premature to assume all their money is received just from Pak matches. I'm not implying that the other countries have their star players participating in these activities, but there is a reason why the ICC is worried about this.

I know of other individual cases, with Cronje's being the most documented, but I don't believe any other nation has been involved so rampantly as Pakistan's history shows.

When you can't tour a country or play games against them with every win meaningless, I see no reason to continue playing them.

If Australia beats Pakistan coming up, or if Canada knocked off the 180 a few days ago, nobody cares much anymore.

 

[pcfan123]

I know of other individual cases, with Cronje's being the most documented, but I don't believe any other nation has been involved so rampantly as Pakistan's history shows.

When you can't tour a country or play games against them with every win meaningless, I see no reason to continue playing them.

If Australia beats Pakistan coming up, or if Canada knocked off the 180 a few days ago, nobody cares much anymore.

I agree with you 100%, can't tour there, can't trust them to tour other places, the players are half cheats and the fans are misguided tools.

Useless

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I also hate all that sanctimonious religious crap they do on the field. Hypocrites

 

[Sedition]

^Its because Cricket Australia did not want one of their team's greatest victory become tainted with such allegation. ICC therefore was forced to deem the test clear. However anyone with an iota of cricketing sense would know that Sydney was as fixed as they get.

I somehow missed this gem the first time..

1. Cricket Australia is not bigger than the ICC.
2. Beating Pakistan is far from being a great victory, let alone one of the greatest.. Pakistan had not beaten Australia in a test for 15 years!
3. Everyone I watched this game with and have spoken to about it, agrees it was a joke and is memorable only for showing Pakistan's willingness to throw what would have been one of their greatest victories.

 

[sami ullah khan]

^Australia were trailing by 200 odd run when they started their second innings. They managed to somehow win the match from then on. That is a great victory for any team. You are playing it down Just because the opposition was Pakistan. I can see you are not that fond of Pakistan but suggesting that Pakistan should be kicked out or something ,is bit a too extreme. It is very easy sitting comfortably in a chair and start typing whatever crap comes to one's mind. You even know what cricket means to people of this country. How is it their fault that teams don't visit here. Terrorist and extremist have hijacked the very life of people in my country. Cricket provides them an opportunity to forget all the worries for a little while. Do you think taking that away from us is the best thing to do just because you would like to?

 

[Sedition]

You suggested it was one of our greatest victories, I am playing it down because it clearly was not.
Never have I literally felt sick in my stomach after winning a match before, and you said yourself that anyone with any sense knows it was fixed.. Australians must be pretty tweaking ignorant to consider it a great victory over a match-fixing team that hasn't beat us in 15 years.

If Pakistan is as passionate about cricket as claimed, then maybe they should focus that passion on cleaning up their game and regaining some shred of respect instead of being a black mark on the cricket community. Until then they should be banned.

I honestly don't know how you can support a team that represents your country and still fields the likes of the Akmals, Riaz and any others who've slipped through the cracks.

 

[sami ullah khan]

You can read my various comments regarding this issue and about players that you have mentioned. I absolutely detest presence of anyone in our team that has been involved in the fixing saga. I know most of my friends here in Pakistan have the same feeling but ours is a country in turmoil. What you see in cricket is a manifestation of what is happening in our society as whole. We have come fresh out of an eight year long tyrannic rule of Musharraf. Democracy has only just been established. It will take time and patience for system to establish that will take care of corruption and people like Akmals who practice it.

 

[AsadAbrar]

Shiv Sena is ████ group of idiots. You should probably ignore what they say. (addressed to Coolboy)

Yeah, you are right.

@Sendition
How would you feel if someone says that Australian's are match fixers and should be kicked out of cricket??

Samiullah is right and i agree with him 100%.

You and Mark are going above the limit.

 

[Sedition]

Yeah, you are right.

@Sendition
How would you feel if someone says that Australian's are match fixers and should be kicked out of cricket??

Samiullah is right and i agree with him 100%.

You and Mark are going above the limit.

If evidence came out tomorrow that Ponting, Johnson and S. Smith were guilty of spot-fixing, while Haddin's going around dropping catches, the Husseys are named and playing dodgy.. then ban us for a few years until we can sort it out. Take it on the chin, keep quiet and play a clean game. That's all people want from Pakistan but it looks far, far away.

 

[BKB1991]

The thing is that, that kind of stuff works out where you already have a proper system. The PCB men at the top are as corrupt if not more than some of the players. We truely need an Egypt style revolution.

 

[King Cricket]

http://blogs.cricket.yahoo.com/posts/2011/05/dial-‘m’-for-match-fixing-2/

‘Cricket tends to protect its secrets’ | Yahoo! Cricket Blog

What we have here is an Indian version of the investigation conducted by News of the World. The magazine claims to have 400 minutes of recorded conversation between politicians and bookies where they implicate a glut of players, including Indian ones, in match fixing.

Apparently, the tapes also contain conversations that point to the fact that the semi-final between India and Pakistan was fixed.

These tapes, coupled with Hasan Tilkaratne's allegations that Sri Lankan players had dabbled in match fixing ever since the 1990s, do shatter the faith that I possess on the integrity of the game and the players involved. Just when we thought the dust was settling down, here we are, again up for another recurrence of the Pakistani saga. If anything, this expose will probably be bigger, as this time, the arc has broadened to include not just Pakistan, but India, West Indies, IPL, and a plethora of cricketers.

 

[BKB1991]

Not what I wanted to hear. But the truth must come out. We fans deserve to know.

Talking about game patterns, look at Indias pattern during the SF against Pakistan. At one stage 300+ looked on the cards and then they slowed down. And then Misbah's innings.

Blah this is annoying, everything starts looking suspicious.

 

[Papa_Smurf]

The articles mentioned the stories would be released on May 7. That was last Saturday. What happened? Surely, it would've been all-over cricinfo if something susbstantial like this was published.