Tendulkar v Inzamam TEST CRICKET ONLY

[Insomniac]

You are still limiting down the conversation.:

Read what khalek said

Inzamam is the player for ANY situation. Tendulkar is just there to score runs when not under too much pressure.

zMario added 1 Minutes and 36 Seconds later...

I'm not saying Inzamam is better in the second innings.

I am just saying that an overall situation will include EVERYTHING, which would show why Inzamam is on top.

 

[khalek]

Yes exactly, if you go for the overall stats, of course Tendy will be better and that is why people consider him God or worship him, but you have to see how useful they have been for the team. Since the discussion is for test cricket only, which requires a lots of skills, we can see very well how Inzi got his team out of the danger zone or trouble where Tendy since 1998 has shown that even in his age of 20s he could not live up to the expectations of his countrymen

 

[Insomniac]

Yes exactly, if you go for the overall stats, of course Tendy will be better and that is why people consider him God or worship him, but you have to see how useful they have been for the team. Since the discussion is for test cricket only, which requires a lots of skills, we can see very well how Inzi got his team out of the danger zone or trouble where Tendy since 1998 has shown that even in his age of 20s he could not live up to the expectations of his countrymen

I honestly never got this idea of calling Sachin a God.

Whose the pope then, Dravid?

Anyway, you are completely right khalek - the overall stats will show Tendulkar as better, but stats can sometimes be misleading. Just a LITTLE investigation into those stats, you can find that actually Inzamam-ul-Haq is the better batsman and player in test match cricket.

And besides, Tendulkar is too much of a whiner. Trying to make umpires and players think he edged a ball when he didn't, then calling for a review when it was OBVIOUSLY out...

And the list continues - he had to wait till the big screen was on him and raise up his finger, so EVERYONE could see what a big hot shot he is. Every Indian fan was attacking Ponting for raising his finger on that catch, yet the same criteria doesn't apply when Sachin does it.

Thats just embarassing.

 

[khalek]

Well me too i dont know why he is God

Probably he is a God because he has scored the most 50s and 100s as an Indian but what about when India are following on ? what about when India are trailing by a big score, i have never seen him perform at that time of crisis in my whole life

 

[TruSachFan]

Inzaman averages 0 against Brett Lee
http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru/engine/match/221840.html

shantanu_rooney added 6 Minutes and 24 Seconds later...

Sachin Averages 39 against Warne
Sachin avergaes 49 against Murali
Sachin Averages 55 against Lee

While

Inzaman Averages 37 against Warne
Inzaman Averages 41 against Murali

Two of the best spinners in the World

How much do they average against Bond?

 

[khalek]

And besides, Tendulkar is too much of a whiner. Trying to make umpires and players think he edged a ball when he didn't, then calling for a review when it was OBVIOUSLY out...

And the list continues - he had to wait till the big screen was on him and raise up his finger, so EVERYONE could see what a big hot shot he is. Every Indian fan was attacking Ponting for raising his finger on that catch, yet the same criteria doesn't apply when Sachin does it.

Thats just embarassing.

Exactly, not only Tendy but Gangu is a whiner as well, when they get out they cant believe thats shame. I have never seen other players whining after getting out and trying to persuade the umpires.

They cry even if they get caught in the long on

 

[shravi]

zMario, you didn't reply to my post.

 

[Insomniac]

Inzamam has never faced Bond in Test Cricket (due to injuries maybe?)

Tendulkar averages 51 v Bond

 

[khalek]

How much do they average against Bond?

Who is Bond? forget him he's gone

 

[shan111]

I honestly never got this idea of calling Sachin a God.

Whose the pope then, Dravid?

Anyway, you are completely right khalek - the overall stats will show Tendulkar as better, but stats can sometimes be misleading. Just a LITTLE investigation into those stats, you can find that actually Inzamam-ul-Haq is the better batsman and player in test match cricket.

And besides, Tendulkar is too much of a whiner. Trying to make umpires and players think he edged a ball when he didn't, then calling for a review when it was OBVIOUSLY out...

And the list continues - he had to wait till the big screen was on him and raise up his finger, so EVERYONE could see what a big hot shot he is. Every Indian fan was attacking Ponting for raising his finger on that catch, yet the same criteria doesn't apply when Sachin does it.

Thats just embarassing.

I'll like to see the Review system implemented during a India-Pakistan Test series. Then we will be able to see who are the whiner actually.

Any way, performing in front of the home crowd in a India-Pakistan clash is one of the most hard pressure situation that one can play under. The following will show how Sachin and Inzamam have faired in their respective countries against each other.

Inzamam's series average against India in Pakistan:
http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru...n=6;template=results;type=batting;view=series

Sachin's average against Pakistan in India:
http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru...n=7;template=results;type=batting;view=series

this again tells the story.

 

[Insomniac]

You use the matches won stat a lot to show that Sachin chokes. However, it is a very debatable point that in matches lost, Inzamam choked too.

This isn't an argument, but a question. Could you please get me stats on the number of tests involving Sachin and Inzamam, and see how many times India and Pakistan have lost with them in the team, then the averages. I don't know if you've already done this but I'm not going to go through 33 pages to check either.

India have lost 43 tests with Tendulkar in the team and won 47 tests

Pakistan have lost 38 tests with Inzamam in the team and won 49 tests

Inzamam has drawn 33 tests, Sachin has drawn 60

Sachin has played 150 tests, Inzamam has played 120.

Inzamam Win% 41% 31.3% Sachin Win%
Inzamam Draw% 28% 40.0% Sachin Draw%
Inzamam Loss% 31.7% 28.7% Sachin Loss%

These are very interesting figures, I must say shravi. It confirms my theory that Inzamam helps his team more often, and if he scores can take Pakistan to victory, while with Sachin, you are likely to just end up with a draw.

It seems to me that it confirms my theory of this:

 

[khalek]

Shan, your stats tell Inzi averages 48 where Sachin averages 44 so who's better?

khalek added 1 Minutes and 38 Seconds later...

Take the crappy poll out now, every stats Mario and you tendy fans have provided prove that Inzi is better, except the overall career stats of Tendy

 

[Insomniac]

I'll like to see the Review system implemented during a India-Pakistan Test series. Then we will be able to see who are the whiner actually.

Any way, performing in front of the home crowd in a India-Pakistan clash is one of the most hard pressure situation that one can play under. The following will show how Sachin and Inzamam have faired in their respective countries against each other.

Inzamam's series average against India in Pakistan:
http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru...n=6;template=results;type=batting;view=series

Sachin's average against Pakistan in India:
http://stats.cricinfo.com/statsguru...n=7;template=results;type=batting;view=series

this again tells the story.

Your stats show that Inzamam's the better batsman while playing at home against India.

Inzamam averages 48.42 at home vs India
Sachin averages 44.15 at home vs Pakistan

Inzamam averages 54.88 away in India
Sachin averages 40.25 away in Pakistan.

Your stats just showed Inzamam's better since I agree, performing at home in front of an India-Pakistan crowd is one of the hardest situations there are.

zMario added 0 Minutes and 53 Seconds later...

Shan, your stats tell Inzi averages 48 where Sachin averages 44 so who's better?

khalek added 1 Minutes and 38 Seconds later...

Take the crappy poll out now, every stats Mario and you tendy fans have provided prove that Inzi is better, except the overall career stats of Tendy

And the overall career stats aren't always everything, as proven by me, because if you just look closer, you find out that Inzamam is indeed the better player.

 

[khalek]

Your stats show that Inzamam's the better batsman while playing at home against India.

Inzamam averages 48.42 at home vs India
Sachin averages 44.15 at home vs Pakistan

Inzamam averages 54.88 away in India
Sachin averages 40.25 away in Pakistan.

Your stats just showed Inzamam's better since I agree, performing at home in front of an India-Pakistan crowd is one of the hardest situations there are.

Hahahahaha why did he post those stats, pure ownage Mario well done...

 

[Insomniac]

Oh and shan, if the review system was implemented during an India-Paksitan series, even when Sachin would get clean bowled by Akhtar, he will spit on the grass, and walk off shaking his head as if Akhtar bowled a big no-ball that wasn't called.