Tendulkar v Inzamam TEST CRICKET ONLY

[shravi]

It doesn't confirm that Inzamam helped his team more often, those victories could have well been engineered by other batsmen, but we don't have to the time to see that.

Once again, this isn't necessarily directed towards you. Rather than using averages to make a comparison, ratios should have been used- Matches they did choke in, and matches they didn't. That will make for a better comparison because the 150 days more of cricket Sachin has played, doesn't come into the equation. Obviously, this is a little hard because you have to go through each and every match both of them have played and look at the score when they walked in to bat. Nobody has that much time on their hands, therefore, in my mind, it comes down to opinion and if this thread is anything to go by, Sachin wins by a landslide. I guess one of the large reasons, from a neutral perspective, is because Sachin is much more aesthetically pleasing.

 

[khalek]

Well i guess performing against Indo-Pak crowd is no big deal and Inzi has proven that by averaging 50+ in India and almost 50 in Pakistan where Tendy is still in the 40s

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It doesn't confirm that Inzamam helped his team more often, those victories could have well been engineered by other batsmen, but we don't have to the time to see that.

Once again, this isn't necessarily directed towards you. Rather than using averages to make a comparison, ratios should have been used- Matches they did choke in, and matches they didn't. That will make for a better comparison because the 150 days more of cricket Sachin has played, doesn't come into the equation. Obviously, this is a little hard because you have to go through each and every match both of them have played and look at the score when they walked in to bat. Nobody has that much time on their hands, therefore, in my mind, it comes down to opinion and if this thread is anything to go by, Sachin wins by a landslide. I guess one of the large reasons, from a neutral perspective, is because Sachin is much more aesthetically pleasing.

Mario has just used percentages, you can check that

 

[shravi]

I did :. I even replied to his post. You're just being a fanboy anyway, Khalek.

 

[khalek]

I did :. I even replied to his post. You're just being a fanboy anyway, Khalek.

Nope not a fanboy, i have seen almost all the stats as you all have seen and i can see how good Inzi was

 

[Insomniac]

It doesn't confirm that Inzamam helped his team more often, those victories could have well been engineered by other batsmen, but we don't have to the time to see that.

Once again, this isn't necessarily directed towards you. Rather than using averages to make a comparison, ratios should have been used- Matches they did choke in, and matches they didn't. That will make for a better comparison because the 150 days more of cricket Sachin has played, doesn't come into the equation. Obviously, this is a little hard because you have to go through each and every match both of them have played and look at the score when they walked in to bat. Nobody has that much time on their hands, therefore, in my mind, it comes down to opinion and if this thread is anything to go by, Sachin wins by a landslide. I guess one of the large reasons, from a neutral perspective, is because Sachin is much more aesthetically pleasing.

Actually, I can use the win average to show Inzamam has definitely been more of a contributor than Sachin in wins.

Inzamam averages 78.16 in Pakistan's 49 test wins, Sachin averages 62.11

Now you can compare that with the %s.

Inzamam Win% 41% 31.3% Sachin Win%
Inzamam Draw% 28% 40.0% Sachin Draw%
Inzamam Loss% 31.7% 28.7% Sachin Loss%

So in 41% of Inzamam's games, he averaged 78.16 which led to a win.

In Sachin's 31.3% of wins, he averaged 62.11. No need to go through every match

 

[SciD]

Dude batsman hardly win Test matches. Its bowlers who win them and Pakistan has better bowlers than India.

Tendulkar can score 500 runs himself but uf bowlers fails its either draw or loss.

 

[khalek]

Yes of course Tendy can score 500 but only when India are not trailing by or following on..

 

[Insomniac]

Dude batsman hardly win Test matches. Its bowlers who win them and Pakistan has better bowlers than India.

Tendulkar can score 500 runs himself but uf bowlers fails its either draw or loss.

What are you on about?

Both batsmen and bowlers win you matches.

If bowlers bowl a side out for 180, and your batsmen get out for 90, theres nothing your bowlers can do about that.

 

[TruSachFan]

IVA Richards

won match 1974-1991 63 4300 291 52.43 12 9 2/24 63.11 0 69 0
lost match 1974-1991 19 1197 177 31.50 2 6 2/34 63.50 0 14 0
drawn match 1975-1991 39 3043 232 60.86 10 17 2/17 59.70 0 39 0


SO, Inzamam is better than Lara, Sachin, Ponting, and Richards.

 

[SciD]

Nah Inzy is greater than anyone ever. He averages 79 in Pak wins. :hpraise

 

[khalek]

IVA Richards

won match 1974-1991 63 4300 291 52.43 12 9 2/24 63.11 0 69 0
lost match 1974-1991 19 1197 177 31.50 2 6 2/34 63.50 0 14 0
drawn match 1975-1991 39 3043 232 60.86 10 17 2/17 59.70 0 39 0


SO, Inzamam is better than Lara, Sachin, Ponting, and Richards.

Yes he is better then, i say he is the best whats the use of scoring 100s 200s 300s if they cannot win you matches

 

[shan111]

Your stats show that Inzamam's the better batsman while playing at home against India.

Inzamam averages 48.42 at home vs India
Sachin averages 44.15 at home vs Pakistan

Inzamam averages 54.88 away in India
Sachin averages 40.25 away in Pakistan.

Your stats just showed Inzamam's better since I agree, performing at home in front of an India-Pakistan crowd is one of the hardest situations there are.

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And the overall career stats aren't always everything, as proven by me, because if you just look closer, you find out that Inzamam is indeed the better player.

If not then why are talking about the cumulative averages of Inzamam vs India at Pakistan and Sachin vs Pakistan at India?
I'm only talking about test matches that Sachin have played in India against pakistan and Inzamam against India in Pakistan.
In 2 series Inzamam has averaged 43.80 and 60.00.
In 3 series Sachin has averaged 42.75, 51.00 and 69.50.
Out of this, when India won the series, Sachin averaged 69.50 while when Pakistan won, inzamam averaged 60.00.

 

[Insomniac]

IVA Richards

won match 1974-1991 63 4300 291 52.43 12 9 2/24 63.11 0 69 0
lost match 1974-1991 19 1197 177 31.50 2 6 2/34 63.50 0 14 0
drawn match 1975-1991 39 3043 232 60.86 10 17 2/17 59.70 0 39 0


SO, Inzamam is better than Lara, Sachin, Ponting, and Richards.

I can agree with that about Lara and Ponting and Viv Richards to be fairly honest

Inzamam's led his country to more wins with the bat than those guys did.

To be fair, Lara batted very selfishly, and he was the captain. He decided to score 400, instead of giving his team a decent chance. Had he declared when he was on say, 300, he could have beat England by an innings and a TON of runs.

Why? - He bowled England out in their first innings, and England in their second innings were 5 down. Just another 2 or 3 hours, and WI could have won that game had Lara declared.

So it can be said that it is slightly Lara's fault for WI not winning more games. Viv Richards didn't face the bowling attack of this generation, so its difficult to compare.

Now here's an interesting situation. Ponting averages 63.75 in games Australia have won - now Australia have won 84 tests, and only lost 16 and drawn 19 (in the games Ponting has played in)

Now Ponting usually comes in at #3, so he only has to fight with #1 and #2 and possibly #4 to get those runs.

I would do the stats, but its too much work, and has NOTHING to do with this thread, as this is a Sachin v Inzamam thread, not Inzamam v everyone else thread.

 

[khalek]

If not then why are talking about the cumulative averages of Inzamam vs India at Pakistan and Sachin vs Pakistan at India?
I'm only talking about test matches that Sachin have played in India against pakistan and Inzamam against India in Pakistan.
In 2 series Inzamam has averaged 43.80 and 60.00.
In 3 series Sachin has averaged 42.75, 51.00 and 69.50.
Out of this, when India won the series, Sachin averaged 69.50 while when Pakistan won, inzamam averaged 60.00.

Dude then why only are we comparing stats of games played in India and Pakistan, is it because of the so called "Pressure of the Indo-Pak crowds"... lol

 

[shan111]

Oh and shan, if the review system was implemented during an India-Paksitan series, even when Sachin would get clean bowled by Akhtar, he will spit on the grass, and walk off shaking his head as if Akhtar bowled a big no-ball that wasn't called.

I would like to see the reactions of Akhtar if an LBW decision is reversed in favour of Sachin if Akhtar was bowling to him.