Test Cricket tweak

[crick4life]

Yet another game seems to fall in place going by the first half of the Indian inning. India would have been placed better if they could have done without the runouts. Dravid is looking very solid, kept defending and only in the last couple of overs he has scored 14-15 runs. Only Yuvraj Singh and Shewag looked a bit edgy but all others have looked in good form.

 

[crick4life]

Forgot to post the screen shot.

 

[crick4life]

Since the last post I had to save and come back into the game as I had few things to do. Kaif was looking very good and was picking up runs at ease prior to saving. Once I restarted, the game began with Cairns as bowler(I dont know why Cairns came on to bowl when I had been using Vettori & Bond). Kaif looked out of sorts, edged couple over the gully still scored 10-15 runs in a jiff and got out. Agarkar came and left in no time although I attacked Agarkar right from ball one. He hit a nice ondrive and then after couple of ball was out LBW. From then on I havent had any success although I am quite desperate to win this game, right now it looks anyones game. I started to attack Kumble a bit too much and he helped himself to some easy runs. Dravid seem to grow in strength and out of blue hit some excellent shots around the ground including a six of Vettori over Mid Wicket. Unfortunately both my trumpcards in my previous two game Bond and Vettori do not seem to be delivering, I have faithfully gone back to the old horse Harry. Also I didnt bow too very well to Dravid in the last few overs trying to emulate Jonah bowling a bit too many incutters to bowl him out, Dravid simply scored one too many on the leg side. Have a look at the screen shot, its really interesting.

I am happy with the current files after having played three games in a row against different opposition on different sort of pitches. I have tweaked the current files to get the CPU to be a lot aggressive from 40+ overs, will need to see how that will go. If the tweak doesnt pay off well, then I will forgo those and send this update to you guys.

 

[crick4life]

India eventually won the game by 3 wickets. Zaheer Khan whacked the last ball of the penultimate over for a six over long on. Dravid missed a well deserved century by just 1 run ending up on 99*. It was a bloody good game by any standards although I am not happy losing due to the cheats employed by the game

There were 3 overs to go and 19 runs needed with 3 wickets in had when I brought back Bond. Zaheer was the striker and he could not handle the first 4 balls at all. No runs were scored off the first four balls, the target was then 19 runs of 2.2 overs. But then the game crashed to the desktop and when I got in I was yet again given Chris Cairns to bowl with although I hadnt choosen him. He went for 7-8 runs in that over and then I got Bond to bowl the penultimate over. First ball four by Dravid and a single of the next ball, Zaheers scratched around for the next two balls and then I bowled him with a fast delivery but a no ball. Not only did the ball hit the stumps but the ball speeded to the boundry to be awarded 5 runs. The last ball of that over was clobered over the long on for six to confirm this patch is indeed very good. I bowled handful of yorkers which the CPU defended or straight drove although many times in the death I thought I will bowl the yorkers but I resisted.

I will send out this patch just in sometime to all the testers, give it a go and let me know what you guys think.

 

[Hero]

Kiwi,So far your work is looking promising in regard to patch. I want to know that apart from your other mammoth changes in the game, are you trying to alter the cpu AL to such extent that all team would play according to their level.For instance,If Australia and Bangladesh match is going on,Bangladesh can be bowled out on low scores and also it is more easier to score against them.Same is the Batsman,s that famous batsman often play well than others and whenever find proper ball can play their favorit shot more often than other like Jay suriya cover drive etc. I know that many things could be challenging but it is judicious to ask at this stage that what is acheivable.Waiting for your reply in anticipation.

 

[T20]

sounds like a great game ravi..I'll have a 50 ov game tomorrow (little chance of real life cricket due to rain) let me know if you want it tested on any specific pitch type or else I'll play on dusty. thanks for your good work

 

[crick4life]

Originally posted by Hero@Jun 21 2003, 02:18 AM
Kiwi,So far your work is looking promising in regard to patch. I want to know that apart from your other mammoth changes in the game, are you trying to alter the cpu AL to such extent that all team would play according to their level.For instance,If Australia and Bangladesh match is going on,Bangladesh can be bowled out on low scores and also it is more easier to score against them.Same is the Batsman,s that famous batsman often play well than others and whenever find proper ball can play their favorit shot more often than other like Jay suriya cover drive etc. I know that many things could be challenging but it is judicious to ask at this stage that what is acheivable.Waiting for your reply in anticipation.

The gameplay as of now is altered to an extent where the game can be enjoyed when a ODI is played in Hard Mode and this has to be a 50 over game. The patch definately will not work for 20 and 10 overs game.There will be more edges for lesser teams and I dont expect them to score a lot of runs or bowl very well. The better teams will certainly perform better and the mediocre ones will hopefully do well at times and badly at times as well. The lower order ofcourse is not going to be as strong as the top order batsmen although at times they will chip in with useful runs. The shots for a particular type of batsman is not controllable as there is no option for it in this game. Read Jayasurya will end up being strong on all parts of the grounds irrespective of how he plays in real life. Better the average better the player but at times they can fail as well. I can only say I have played 3 games using this patch and the results have been very encouraging, there is an absolute thrill playing the game. Yet again you can break through the CPU defense by bowling non stop yorkers and I am not a fan of bowling yorkers. I suggest those testers who would like to bowl plenty of yorkers must install Zimrahill's sweep shot patch. I am not sure how this will alter other shots being played when used with this patch, you guys can test it out though.

This patch needs consistent tests on other pitches like the damp, green, dry and dusty ones. If any shortcomings we can sort those out in the coming days. Please dont be disappointed if anything odd on other pitches as I cannot assure the best results on those although I do not expect it to fall over.

Not a problem Shailesh, I am sending those out now. It will help if you can play on a pitch other than normal or hard.

I am not going to make any more changes till all you guys get back to me with any suggestions or comments on the patch that has been just sent to you guys. I would love to hear your opinions on the batting setup patch though, please let me know if it needs any furter tweaking at all.

 

[mani_gamer]

Originally posted by crick4life@Jun 20 2003, 01:24 PM

Originally posted by mani_gamer@Jun 20 2003, 06:34 PM
ravi loook at this i played a match between eng and pak
on normal pitch and cloudy day
i was bowled out of 199 in 35 overs
look at the pak reply once pak was 72/2 in 8 overs
Taufeeq umar went mad like trescothik did today
but wen i started bowling fool on thee pads
most of them got lbw and bowled :o
wat do u think so abt his

I agree the CPU was a bit too aggressive but you will need to wait till the update to the patch is sent to you guys to have a go at bowling. The CPU is now made a lot stronger and will try to bat out without trying to accelarate a bit too much in the first 15 overs trying to preserve the wickets. I want to make doubly sure that it is so before sending out the new patch set. Please wait for it and meanwhile I only wanted to know how you guys are coping with batting using the patch.

Also what do you mean by bowling at the pads, it had to be online with the stumps to bowl the CPU out right. Are you meaning you bowled non stop yorkers, let me know if it is so.

yes i bowled 4 yorkers out of 6 balls
if u can make the cpu hit the rite ball to the boundry it wuld b great and to make it defend 3 out of the 4 yorkers bowled


those r good matches ravi
great work
i think this will b the greatest patch of them all

 

[Statman]

I dont have the patch yet (still waiting on it) but cant you do what Zimrahill did to stop the batsmen from getting out to yorkers? With his patch, You can get the batsmen out with a yorker but its quite difficult, plus he adjusted the field setting so when the human player swept the yorker it would go straight to the fielder. There must be some way from where the computer can prevent itself from getting run out every 10-20 yorkers or so.


Thanks

Statman

 

[Hero]

Kiwi, you answered as well many questions which could be arised later on.I want to give you a suggestion that you should himself creat the 2 saf files . One for those who don,t like sweep on yorkers and later for those who know that yorker is such delivery which is difficult to negotiate in cricket 2002, so if they will bowl yorker, they can easily restrict pc.This could spoil the charm of the game Because often we have seen that in last few overs or critical situation when high runrate is required, yorkers are often bowled a lot.So computer should be adroit enough to deal with.

As you mentiond in your answer that Zimhrill saf can produce unexpected results so it is preferable that you should do this task.As you prepared on the early stages of development of one day patch. carry on good work.

 

[amber22]

Hero , you are right that the Yorkers are bowled in last few overs in real life cricket but how often does it goes for a yorker.There are always mistime in line or lenght inspite of the bowler trying to find a yorker.Sometimes result in full tosses etc.
So I think we have to control ourselves from bowling too much yorker and I am lucky that like Ravi I can control myself

 

[amber22]

Well RAVI ,you have sent batting files as well along with the bowling files.So are they the same batting files or any updates.

I tested the batting files on green,normal and dusty pitches.They have been good.On Dusty pitch as we wanted fast bowlers are easy to handle while spinners are not.

 

[amber22]

I am going to play a 50 ovr match with the latest files on a dry pitch

 

[crick4life]

Originally posted by Statman@Jun 21 2003, 03:54 AM
I dont have the patch yet (still waiting on it) but cant you do what Zimrahill did to stop the batsmen from getting out to yorkers? With his patch, You can get the batsmen out with a yorker but its quite difficult, plus he adjusted the field setting so when the human player swept the yorker it would go straight to the fielder. There must be some way from where the computer can prevent itself from getting run out every 10-20 yorkers or so.


Thanks

Statman

Statman,

It is personal preference to be honest, I cant digest the CPU sweeping a yorker from a fast bowler. In this patch CPU does defend most of the yorkers, also plays shots or even hits for a six as far as the yorkers are not one too many. What with Mani has said above (bowling 4 yorkers out of 6 balls), the CPU still lasted enough time to score runs. I am not the one to keep firing yorkers every other ball, I do use them but not 80% of the times. I probably bowl one or two in 2-5 overs and the current patch handles that very well. The yorkers are not a problem when a human is batting, this patch pretty much ensures you dont play a sweep against a yorker. Either you will have to defend the ones bowled by CPU or try playing a shot risking your wicket. When you play with this patch you will very well know what I am refering to, the CPU also doesnt get out to every yorker that is bowled Mani I am sure will confirm this. I did have in the patch to begin with a setting where CPU sends every yorker crashing to the fine leg boundry by sweeping which did not go well with others who are testing the patch. The trouble with the Paddle Sweep shot is at times it will also sweep ones which are full but not yorkers. This also kind of shadowed other shots that CPU could choose and execute to perfection when the ball is pitched fuller. I honestly want to know from you guys, do you guys like bowling 4 yorkers in a over?

Amber, there are no changes to the batting setup files. Its just that I am used to sending both each time to keep you guys out of confusion. B)

 

[radaga]

these files sound pretty good, even though you havent released a patch or anything yet, could you email the files to me?
my email is: [email protected]