Test Cricket tweak

[crick4life]

Originally posted by Statman@Jun 22 2003, 02:21 AM
Ravi..... What if I only use the bowling ODI exe and play the game. Is the only difference that the cursor appears right at the end of the ball being bowled ? There must be a way to integrate the whole thing.


As for the matches, well one this is for sure you have to be patient! I played a few matches on both hard and normal pitches. It seems to me that it takes too much time for the human player to settle in. I mean on a hard pitch it shouldnt take as much time for the batsment to get settled since hard pitches usually favor the batsmen. I was playing as Pakistan and Taufeeq Umar made 24 from 55 balls, while the minute Razzaq comes into bat he is blasting all over the place. I cant seem to find a balance between batsment ability and the batsmen settling factor. <_<

Also someone mentioned earlier that the reverse sweep seems messed up, well it does. Every time I tried the reverse sweep it goes too slow and almost always mistimed. Has this been deliberalty done.

Jonah.... Pak(cpu) scored 304 on a green wicket ?? :o Thats a bit too much for a green wicket dont you guys think so ?

Keep up the testing

I am not sure for now how you can integrate both batting and bowling into one. You can try to figure out and if you do come across something let us know we can implement that. No there are more differences than just the cursor appearing at the late in the setup files so you probably will not get the same sort of results if you use bowling setup files to bat as well. It is only to suggest that you use them seperately, if you indeed want to use it your way its upto you.

If you took time to settle some batsmen early on but not others, its your ability and not the CPUs. How you bat is upto you and if you can get quick runs at times I suppose its fair enough. Not all batsmen will have to play the same way is it? Even for CPU batting some will try and score some quick runs with few edges here and there which I think is not unrealistic at all.


I have absolutely no idea about reverse sweep, I havent tried it yet and cant comment on that one maybe other might want to have an opinion about this one. You can fix this by using the reverse sweep patch available on the website and I havent done it as I am not a great fan of reverse sweep.

I suppose you can restrict CPU to between 200-250 on a green wicket once you get used to this patch for sure. Play few times and then I am sure you can restrict it with creative fielding setup, bowling off stump line. You can try and bowl wicket to wicket, swing the ball away but by trying to do this you will induce CPU to play across the line giving away runs and in the bargain can get the CPU batsman out LBW or bowled. I think it really does take a bit of skill and practice to do this.

 

[crick4life]

Statman, have a look at the score below the Run Rate is certainly not high in my books.

No Jonah I am not implying you arent a very good bowler in Cricket2002 or the Pommies have a bad bowling lineup :P its just that I am used to these files and also playing for the best team.

 

[jonah]

That's OK Ravi...it was the first time I've used the files, and when I look back I possibly could have restricted the cpu a little. Anything short was invariably punished, and as for the last over, 22 runs speaks for itself (I'd used up my self imposed quota of yorkers!! ). I'm sure I could get the cpu down to 240-270 in future...but that seems the beauty of this patch now; you have to work at it.
Glad you've amended the byes/wides situation on green wickets Ravi. It's helps to get a few, but even Shoaib's not THAT expensive !

Shall I finish my game with the current safs Ravi, or wait till you send the new ones?

 

[crick4life]

Originally posted by jonah@Jun 22 2003, 06:44 AM
That's OK Ravi...it was the first time I've used the files, and when I look back I possibly could have restricted the cpu a little. Anything short was invariably punished, and as for the last over, 22 runs speaks for itself (I'd used up my self imposed quota of yorkers!! ). I'm sure I could get the cpu down to 240-270 in future...but that seems the beauty of this patch now; you have to work at it.
Glad you've amended the byes/wides situation on green wickets Ravi. It's helps to get a few, but even Shoaib's not THAT expensive !

Shall I finish my game with the current safs Ravi, or wait till you send the new ones?

You better finish the one you are playing, get a hang of batting and also let me know if you reckon they are good. Meanwhile I will sort out few more things with the Bowling patch, just trying to stop the CPU batsman running himself out.

Hang on Jonah, I will send the batting ones to you right away. Have a go and let me know if the bounce is ok. Its on its way, Ive only sent it to you for now. Once you confirm the bounce is fine, will send it to others as well.

 

[jonah]

OK Ravi, thanks. Just received them but won't be able to try them for an hour or so . I'll post feedback later.

 

[mani_gamer]

jonah wich ball ru using
i think its not the original one
can u give me
e mail it at [email protected]

 

[jonah]

Well, another dismal defeat for England, collapsing to 173 all out in the 43rd over.
Vaughan was the only batsman to score anything of note, stranded on 49n.o. (79 balls). I lost wickets too regularly, taking some risks to try and keep up with the r/r. A couple of run outs didn't help the cause .
The bounce was much better Ravi in the latest files. Another 20 extras were added, but mostly to leg side wides or leg-byes. So that's OK. Not too many edges, and another good thing was that I found it difficult to get boundaries when the field spread a little, due to good field placings. A real test of timing and placement, looking for gaps, is what's needed .
If I could've restricted Pak to about 230-250, I feel that I could've paced my innings better, kept wickets in hand and had a closer finish. But, as I said, this was my first game with these files, so it's into the nets for more practise .
Good stuff Ravi...I get the early impression that to beat the cpu will give a good buzz with these files.

 

[mani_gamer]

jonah u dint answer me man
see the above post

 

[jonah]

Check your mail

 

[crick4life]

Jonah, sorry you couldnt win again. As you said its just the matter of getting used to it. Having said that I am playing as Australia against England and England have been batting like champions. The run rate is not too good (5/over) thanks to my field placing and defensive bowling but they are on 102/1 after 21 overs. Tresco is going slow but steady on 32(58), A.Mcgrath on 44(48) and no run outs. I have fixed that issue for now although I would like to know from you guys if at all the CPU needs to get run out, I say yes probably once a game or at the most twice. Will roll the updates after I have had some inputs from you guys.

 

[sukku]

ravi plz send me ur odi gameplay files at [email protected]

 

[crick4life]

I have had another exciting game playing as Australia against England. I still need to bat and score those runs to win still it was absolutely an exciting bowling game. Have a look at the stats of A.Mcgrath, he pretty much single handedly demolished the OZ bowlers. I have to say a bowler with a better reputation or average seems to get more wickets, this wasnt the plot for the patch but somehow it seemed to have fallen in place. Right after Flintoff got out there were quite a lot of edges flying all over the place from the lower order but never did reach the fielders or went over them. We can even have a topic in the forum about whos inning was the better one. We have had excellent innings from Gilchrist, Yohanna, Dravid, Tescothick using this patch. i would vote for Dravid for a winning a game which looked lost. Still this inning from A.Mcgrath will take a long time to be bettered by another one using this patch I reckon. Infact he was stranded at one end while the tail enders hardly showed any resistance. Have a look at runs scored by A.Mcgrath, scored 68 on the off and 67 on the leg. Not easy to set field to a batsman who has been finding gaps all over the ground. It was an excellent batting effort for sure, he even made me sledge him at times. Now am onto the run chase.

Sukku, can you please wait for a day or two am in the middle of making few changes which will be tested to make sure it is working well in the next couple of days.

 

[crick4life]

Originally posted by mani_gamer@Jun 22 2003, 08:40 AM
jonah u dint answer me man
see the above post

Take it easy big fella , add a please to your request Jonah is doing you a favor.

 

[jonah]

Another great cpu innings Ravi; an excellent knock by McGrath . Let us know how the run chase goes.
About run outs, I think once, maybe twice max an innings is good. Any more than that and it's not so rewarding. That's just my opinion, don't know about the other guys?

And don't worry about mani, Ravi; I actually sent the file straight away when I saw his first request, but wasn't expecting any gratitude as that seems to be his style :huh: ...

 

[crick4life]

Originally posted by jonah@Jun 22 2003, 12:47 PM
Another great cpu innings Ravi; an excellent knock by McGrath . Let us know how the run chase goes.
About run outs, I think once, maybe twice max an innings is good. Any more than that and it's not so rewarding. That's just my opinion, don't know about the other guys?

And don't worry about mani, Ravi; I actually sent the file straight away when I saw his first request, but wasn't expecting any gratitude as that seems to be his style :huh: ...

I am going all right Jonah, it has been a marathon inning by Hayden he has just finished scoring a 100. A very good partnership was going between Hayden and Martyn but Martyn is just run out. There were 102 runs to score from 10 overs with 6 wickets in hand. Right now it is 62 off 6 overs with 5 wickets in hand a pressure cooker situation, if I pull this off this will be the best PC Cricket game Ive ever played and if I dont well sour grapes the CPU cheated