Test Cricket tweak

[jonah]

Files on their way Ravi. The team files need a little updating with some new additions to the ODI squads, bit they're pretty good.

 

[crick4life]

Originally posted by jonah@Jun 7 2003, 06:04 AM
Files on their way Ravi. The team files need a little updating with some new additions  to the ODI squads, bit they're pretty good.

Cheers, Mike . Havent had much time to test the files on Green/Damp pitches but if you reckon I should send it across to you I certainly will. Also there are few things you need to know, firstly Paddlesweep option will always not be opted by the CPU although it most of the times will sweep the yorkers. I will try to be honest in my review of this patch, the very limited testing this patch has gone through there might exist few edges that might need trimming out, hopefully you will enlighten me on things I havent taken care of. You can add what you reckon about the following and if need be I can quickly make those changes before I send it to you.

1. The edges will not be very dominant on Hard/Dusty/Dry surfaces given the nature of the pitches. Normal type might have few but not all will be wicket taking ones :o .
2. Rather than defending a set of few overs I thought it would be better CPU will knock around a bit as the batsmen generaly do in ODI. Not always will it find the gaps, appox 3 times out of 6 will find a fielder.
3. It will defend at times for sure but not for say 4 overs in a row but probably once every 10 balls or so.
4. At times you will see CPU hitting over the top but can get caught as well. Again even with the hitting over the top not always will it be able to time its shots.
5. CPU should pace the innings fairly well and also will lose wickets on its way to a total .It will not go bersek to try and knock every ball out of the ground at any point of time even in the death although in the death it will hit more over the infield.
6. The shotspeed for Sweep is very high to discourage us from bowling yorkers . You might still be able to get through the defence once in a while but you will probably not be able to guess when.
7. You will be able to shatter the stumps with some bowling skill. Honestly am not sure what though :blink: . I have bowled CPU out thrice but cannot always reproduce the it.
8. The legside shots have been tinkered with to get the CPU to play across to a ball on stump, sometimes this might produce LBW decisions. Keeping it nice and straight will help.
9. Once started playing if you reckon the CPU is getting beaten quite too much or the edges are on the higher side I can suggest quick fixes for those. I cant remember very well, I will check it out, you can beat the CPU bat on certain type of pitches.
10. At a time when a pair of batters are on, one will be quite aggressive and the other a lot defensive. The reason this is attempted it to find a right balance in scoring shots.
11. Finally this patch will use the patched version of cricket2002.exe. I am not packaging the cricket2002.exe file but am instructing the patch to run this file after installating the patch. The install patch will run cricket2002.exe file on its own, you will not need to install first then run the game seperately this time around.

Issues :

1. CPU might sweep a full length ball at times, couldnt fix this issue at all.
2. Dont really know how CPU might play against a Swing Bowler or a Leg Spinner or a Off spinner. I have only tried this patch with fast, medium fast and left arm arthodox bowlers.
3. I also have noticed some batsman dont edge at all. Hopefully the edges will be more dominant with lower order and tailenders.
I havent been able to test this at all.
4. I havent done much on the batting side of the patch, will need to have a look at those as well.
5. Finally do not bowl non stop yorkers, it might just drive the CPU batsman crazy.

Mention what you reckon about those above, if anything I can patch those right away.

Also I havent been in touch with Zim since my home coming, I am not even sure if he is playing this game anymore. He has done a very good job on the patch he released, its just that I am too conventional to carry on playing with it. Also Sam unearthing the hidden secrets in the cfg tempted me to have a go at it and figure out if I can get something going to suit my style. Inspite of this patch the game might suck but not bad trying out something eh Jonah.

 

[zimrahil]

Originally posted by crick4life@Jun 7 2003, 11:46 AM
He has done a very good job on the patch he released, its just that I am too conventional to carry on playing with it.

Hi ravi
how are you doing. You seem to be doing some excellent work here. However, don't understand what you mean by the above comment.

My patch(es) have never been designed for unconventional style of play ? :blink:

 

[jonah]

Sorry Ravi, been out for the day.
With regards to your last post I think the best thing would be to send it on and I'll give it a go, and post any feedback.
Also, are you saying I just run the cricket 2002.exe file (the one I sent you) with this patch, not the seperate bat/bowl exes? If so, could you just send me the safs and configs and fields (if they've changed) seperately, without the installer, and I'll install them manually? Or is the installer the best option?
Cheers.

btw, I wonder what you mean about Zim and his patch too?
I think, and I may be wrong (sorry if I am Zim), that he hasn't carried on patching at the moment (i.e Test patch) because no matter how much effort you put in to patching the gameplay you can never please everyone, there will alwyas be some inherent faults (thank EA for that!) and , as you know, it's a very time-consuming process! You've both done a great job in elongating the interest in both BLC and c2k2. Keep it up guys!

Looking forward to receiving you new files Ravi .

 

[crick4life]

Originally posted by zimrahil@Jun 7 2003, 05:12 PM

Originally posted by crick4life@Jun 7 2003, 11:46 AM
He has done a very good job on the patch he released, its just that I am too conventional to carry on playing with it.

Hi ravi
how are you doing. You seem to be doing some excellent work here. However, don't understand what you mean by the above comment.

My patch(es) have never been designed for unconventional style of play ? :blink:

Hi Zim, I am very well mate how have you been doing. I havent done any great work to be honest, just been playing around with the files you already have come up for ODIs B) . Also it wasnt a comment but an observation, I meant not very conventional for Test Cricket. You already have mentioned the patch was for ODI only which prompted me to start on the Test tweak. It wasnt meant to be a offensive remark, am sorry if it did offend you.

Jonah, the files are on their way sorry couldnt mail it to you before. Let me know how you go with those, the batting patch is fairly unfinished and am sure you will point out some obvious issues if any. It is better you use the install, it just makes life so easy. The install files after having installed all the required files will run the cricket2002.exe for you. This saves you from running the cricket2002.exe manually after having installed the patch. You are very much right about the time and effort creating a patch, infact I havent spent much time given the settings were all there in Zims patch. Also it is just very hard to please everyone particularly the ODI patch, thanks to EA for the amount of yorkers CPU bowls. Let me know how you go.

 

[radaga]

how do you edit these SAF files? :huh:
do you use a program or what? :unsure:
sorry if i sound like a dumbass but i dont usually edit stuff :

 

[jonah]

Thanks Ravi...I'll give feedback over the next few days .

Radaga, you can open the saf files in any text editor to amend tha values, or try Srirams stroke editor (unfortunately I can't get it to work since installing XP ).

 

[radaga]

Originally posted by jonah@Jun 8 2003, 05:00 PM
Thanks Ravi...I'll give feedback over the next few days .

Radaga, you can open the saf files in any text editor to amend tha values, or try Srirams stroke editor (unfortunately I can't get it to work since installing XP ).

i got that editor but it didn't work for me either, i also have XP

 

[crick4life]

Originally posted by radaga@Jun 8 2003, 06:43 AM
how do you edit these SAF files? :huh:
do you use a program or what? :unsure:
sorry if i sound like a dumbass but i dont usually edit stuff :

Fair enough, why should you when youve paid well for a game but trust EA to bugger all. As said above by Jonah, I use notepad to edit values. The stroke editor never worked for me and am on XP too.

 

[crick4life]

Jonah, just a question. Have you ever felt its hard to score against some top teams like Australia, South Africa as against the Zimbabwe or lesser nations in Cricket2002. After I sent you the last Batting tweak, I had to further more tweak it to eventually be happy with. I could only muster 40+ runs on Hard Surface against SA compared to 80+ against the Zimbabwe in the first 15 overs. I could successfully score 3 shots over the infield(1 six and 2 fours) against the SA. I will send the latest ones to you shortly but will have a game or two to make sure its ready to go.

 

[jonah]

Not really noticed that Ravi; mind you, my battings not up to much anyway! If that is the case though, that's OK, coz it's realistic to make scoring easier against the lesser nations as opposed to the better ones...
I'll wait till I receive the latest batting cfgs from you before I start a match .

 

[amber22]

why you XP or ME people worry. There is a method by which you can have as many operating systems on you PC.Like I have 2 ME , i Xp and 2 98

Just you need to divide the harddisk

 

[T20]

Have you guys tried to run it under compatibility mode? Right click on the program icon, click properties, click compatibility tab, and select the option (95/98/me) under compatibility mode.. :huh:

 

[crick4life]

Originally posted by jonah@Jun 8 2003, 12:32 PM
Not really noticed that Ravi; mind you, my battings not up to much anyway! If that is the case though, that's OK, coz it's realistic to make scoring easier against the lesser nations as opposed to the better ones...
I'll wait till I receive the latest batting cfgs from you before I start a match .

Jonah, I just sent the files to you. Few things I want you to notice while using the latest one.

1. Amount of Edges - Is it reasonable or needs change.
2. This patch should make the lower order in particular 8, 9, 10 and 11 fairly weak. You might not be able to time the shots as well as a top order batsman can.
3. There is high risk involved with shots in the air.(Hopefully you will feel its better off not playing it till the death)
4. As pointed in my previous post, its harder to play the better teams.
5. Also is this patch really worth to stick on to for some time.

Apart from the above if you reckon there are few things you want to point out let me know.

Enjoy your ODI tournment now, make sure you include Johnson in your team .

 

[jonah]

Thanks Ravi; I'll let you know. And yes, Johnson's in my team .

Shailesh, I'll try that. Thanks for the tip . The editor runs fine, but the direction etc of the shots isn't recognised...