The Apple Thread

Yeah, I think he ordered the new one just now.

New iPod Touch's are defo good. Lots of upgrades. Two cameras, face time, retina display... would've liked to see 16GB be the smallest (and cheapest) option though.

This puts me in a predicament. I'm looking to upgrade my phone in October. I am considering the iPhone and it was my number 1 until today. AT&T doesn't have 3G in my area so I'm tempted to go to Verizon on a Droid X or an Incredible. I will be getting a free iPod touch in June anyways (Through the whole back to school deal thing)

I currently have 1st Gen iPod touch (getting crappier with every software update, are they trying to kill old products? I haven't even upgraded to iOS4, i'm on like 3.0), T-Mobile G1 (that is in terrible shape; won't connect to WiFi, T-Mobile's service sucks majorly over here, and can't do anything besides make calls, text, and surf the web. Music is a no go), and my beloved iPad (technically my dads, but hey...) :)

I don't think my iPod or my G1 will have any resale value.

Hmm.

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From what i gathered AirPlay allows you to stream your iTunes content to all your iOS devices. I can sit in India and watch a movie from my desktop here over Wifi. And its free!
Go for a Samsung Galaxy S based variant man! I guess they have one option for every carrier in US, and the Verizon version is going to launch this month (September 9, if the rumours are true). I have the Galaxy S, and truly, its bloody amazing! I'd prefer a 1Ghz Hummingbird over a 1Ghz SnapDragon anyday, purely because of the powerful PowerVGR 540 that comes with the Hummingbird!
 
Is this Apple nonsense still going on :p

Damn teeney boppers

Touche. Sick of this 'Oh, I NEED an iPhone' rubbish. My phone cost me $15 and it does everything a phone should do - Call and text..
 
Go for a Samsung Galaxy S based variant man! I guess they have one option for every carrier in US, and the Verizon version is going to launch this month (September 9, if the rumours are true). I have the Galaxy S, and truly, its bloody amazing! I'd prefer a 1Ghz Hummingbird over a 1Ghz SnapDragon anyday, purely because of the powerful PowerVGR 540 that comes with the Hummingbird!

I played with one in Mumbai and more recently at my local T-Mobile kiosk. Its a great phone, dont get me wrong, but just felt too plasticy to me. I want something a bit more solid.
 
I played with one in Mumbai and more recently at my local T-Mobile kiosk. Its a great phone, dont get me wrong, but just felt too plasticy to me. I want something a bit more solid.
Yes well the plastic is a bit of the disappointment, but it helps the phone keep an extremely light profile. Whoever takes my phone in their hands, the first exclamation is "Oh my, it is so light!". I did consider the plastic element while buying it but then I preferred performance over the looks. :p
 
Touche. Sick of this 'Oh, I NEED an iPhone' rubbish. My phone cost me $15 and it does everything a phone should do - Call and text..

I just have a crappy phone and an iPod touch which is much more cost efficient :p
 
Its a great phone, dont get me wrong, but just felt too plasticy to me

You've got a good point, a friend of mine has one and its incredibly plasticy, after having an iPhone, I don't think I could return to another phone of full plastic.

Yes well the plastic is a bit of the disappointment, but it helps the phone keep an extremely light profile.

Between light and plastic, or heavier (but not really that heavy at all) and solid build, well, there's only one choice. The iPhone is the best built phone on the market.
 
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Between light and plastic, or heavier (but not really that heavy at all) and solid build, well, there's only one choice.
Good point, but it only holds when all the other parameters of the phones are same. In this case they're not. People prefer Android, and People prefer iOS.
 
Good point, but it only holds when all the other parameters of the phones are same. In this case they're not. People prefer Android, and People prefer iOS.

Very true, but there's no competition between how popular the two are :) iOS is in a different league!
 
That is your personal preference, and its totally fine. :) But if the recent research numbers in the US are correct, Android has surpassed iOS in the smartphone market share.

I read that, but doubt its relevance. How many phones take the Android operating system? No doubt there are more Android users, because there are more phones with the operating system on there.

I also think that there's not that many phones that do Android justice, the Galaxy S being one of them that does, the screen is pretty damn good, but there's 80% of phones out there which do it badly, very badly. The Samsung Galaxy (the one previous) is awful.
 
I read that, but doubt its relevance. How many phones take the Android operating system? No doubt there are more Android users, because there are more phones with the operating system on there.

I also think that there's not that many phones that do Android justice, the Galaxy S being one of them that does, the screen is pretty damn good, but there's 80% of phones out there which do it badly, very badly. The Samsung Galaxy (the one previous) is awful.
True point there. Only the flagship releases (Nexus One, Droid and its sucessors, EVO, Galaxy S) have brought out the best in Android.

But then you also have to see that Android does not only target the flagship smart phone audience. A whole bunch of budget Android phones are being released and while they certainly don't compete with the iPhone 4, they do the job just fine for the price point at which they're retailing.

And the earlier Galaxy was absolutely crap. So were all phones that came with v1.5 / v1.6. Why? Because at that time, Android was crap. It really only picked up nicely after the 2.0 release and has become an absolute beast with the release of 2.2. Android only truly began competing with iOS since Android 2.0, and its a shame on the part of the handset makers that they've left most of their phones on the older Android versions, hampering its progress.
 
I just have a crappy phone and an iPod touch which is much more cost efficient :p

I had that as well. It is more cost efficient but for me it was real inconvenient. I hate carrying around heaps of stuff and I usually forgot one or the other, though that just might just be me. But I'm happy with my iPhone. Does everything I need it to do.

Good to see them refresh the iPod range. I thought Apple had forgotten about them because they were focusing on the iPhone and iPad so much. I really do like the iPod Touch. Really good for people who don't want to get an iPhone but want some of the features.
 
The thing is i'm a bit egoistical and would like to have the 'best phone' for as long as i possibly can. There seems to be a newer, better Android device released every week!
 
That's why Apple will never be knocked off of the "premier," tag. They release 1 phone, 1 iPod Touch, maybe 2 Mac's per year. They do it so they can give their all to the new products, and in 2 years, my Macbook won't be horrendously outdated like all windows laptops would be.

If I'm honest, I'm a massive fan of Apple. In my opinion they do phones better than the competition, and now I've had a MacBook for a few weeks, I'm under the impression then damn sure do a laptop better than the competition.
 
I read that, but doubt its relevance. How many phones take the Android operating system? No doubt there are more Android users, because there are more phones with the operating system on there.
Numbers are numbers--there are more people out there with an Android-powered device than with an iPhone. If you start taking numbers off for Android, you'll have to also shave the numbers for people using the original iPhone or the iPhone 3G since compared to many Android phones today, they aren't really up to scratch.

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They do it so they can give their all to the new products, and in 2 years, my Macbook won't be horrendously outdated like all windows laptops would be.
They do it because they make more money that way--make no mistake about it. The fact that they have one product line shouldn't exempt them from scrutiny. Before the iPhone, the phone market was always bustling with new products--take Nokia for example. I lost track of their model numbers.

Consider the Xbox360 from Microsoft. The original one was released in 2005. They still release essentially the same product, with their annual refreshes merely slashing prices, changing hard disk capacity and bundling live subscriptions differently. Microsoft could probably have stripped features from the 360 and released a brand new model every year with must-have features.

Apple has had a history of doing this with their products. The original iPod Touch was released 3 months after the original iPhone. The original iPhone came with an in-built camera. But we've had to wait 4 generations for the iPod Touch to get this addition. Each generational release had minor feature updates such as updated hard disk size and thinner form factor. Apple could have put a camera into the second generation Touch but they didn't because it would make them less money in the long run.

I'm not arguing that their sales/marketing strategy is bad, just contesting the point that they do it because they want to dedicate their resources to that one product. If anything, Apple is essentially limiting the shelf life of a product to 2 years (they stop pushing OS updates to any iPhone/iPod Touch that is more than 2 generations old). And their release cycle has been so regular that even if you buy the current device, you know with almost 100% certainty that a year from now there will be a newer, better device out.

If I'm honest, I'm a massive fan of Apple. In my opinion they do phones better than the competition, and now I've had a MacBook for a few weeks, I'm under the impression then damn sure do a laptop better than the competition.
You are obviously entitled to your own opinion, but it's unfair to compare a run-of-the-mill HP or Dell laptop to a MacBook, which is obviously priced higher. People compare MacBooks to everything from Netbooks to multimedia laptops. You should instead compare MacBooks to top-of-the-line business notebooks such as Sony Vaio's business line or the HP EliteBooks. These product lines are much more important to those companies because they have large contracts depending on them. They don't use cheap parts.

I've had my VAIO for almost half a year and it currently works a lot better than the HP's I've had in the past, because those were cheap, consumer-grade machines built with cheap parts. They filled their role well--I was using my laptop as a desktop replacement and didn't need it to be light, have a good battery life, etc. My requirements have changed now and I need a more stable, quick, light laptop.

The advantage with non-Mac machines is that you will ALWAYS be able to find a machine that is specifically targeted towards your requirements. For example, if you wanted a solid state drive in your laptop you'd have only the MacBook Air from Apple--which lacks many other things that you may want. Comparatively, Sony has several VAIO models that offer an SSD.

With Apple's computers, you are always going to be making a compromise as to what you're getting, depending on what Apple wanted to put into it. That's good enough for most people, but that doesn't actually make the machine better.

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The thing is i'm a bit egoistical and would like to have the 'best phone' for as long as i possibly can. There seems to be a newer, better Android device released every week!
Like I said earlier, with Apple you're almost guaranteeing that you will have the top-of-the-line iPhone for only 1 year. And 2 years down the line you will have to get a new one because the latest OS updates won't be pushed up to you anymore.
 

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