The Ashes (Australia tour of England)

[Jalen]

Khawaja needs to go, tired of seeing him play with no foot work and pushing his bat at anything.

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

Khawaja needs to go, tired of seeing him play with no foot work and pushing his bat at anything.

Perhaps he is the best Aussie batsman in the limited overs format right now.

 

[Jalen]

Perhaps he is the best Aussie batsman in the limited overs format right now.

He was average in the a World Cup too so we aren't picking him off recent LOI form. When he is batting well, he plays beautifully but he struggles more often than not. Warner probably a different story, reckon selectors are picking him because of reputation but he isn't playing his usual aggressive cricket. (I've never liked the idea of picking a test team based off of LOI form and vice versa)[DOUBLEPOST=1566142093][/DOUBLEPOST]If Bangers can see off the new ball I reckon he can dig in for a 40 off 100 odd. He really struggles with that moving ball just outside off. Regardless, we must play for a draw now. Marnus gets a good score and he is in my XI next game for Khawaja. Debatable if Harris comes in for Warner

 

[NILAYSHAH60]

He was average in the a World Cup too so we aren't picking him off recent LOI form.

Because he was forced to bat down the order you can say ? I think he was also good enough in Test Cricket a year ago when he scored 170 odd against Pakistan at Dubai. And it was regarded as one of the best innings by a non-subcontinent batsman in Asia in more than a couple of decade's period.

 

[Jalen]

Because he was forced to bat down the order you can say ? I think he was also good enough in Test Cricket a year ago when he scored 170 odd against Pakistan at Dubai. And it was regarded as one of the best innings by a non-subcontinent batsman in Asia in more than a couple of decade's period.

Completely different conditions, you want batsman who can play a moving ball in England. No footwork is not how you play a moving ball. Especially playing the likes of Anderson, Woakes and Broad. Yes Khawaja was shuffled but he is in his natural position now in test cricket and still isn't performing.[DOUBLEPOST=1566143141][/DOUBLEPOST]

Completely different conditions, you want batsman who can play a moving ball in England. No footwork is not how you play a moving ball. Especially playing the likes of Anderson, Woakes and Broad. Yes Khawaja was shuffled but he is in his natural position now in test cricket and still isn't performing.

I'd have him as a solid no.3 in Australia for test cricket and a backup opener in ODI but against a swinging and seaming ball he looks out of sorts.

 

[Willoughby63]

What a thrilling test match that was, hope for more of the same

 

[Yorkshireman]

Khawaja needs to go, tired of seeing him play with no foot work and pushing his bat at anything.

Warner, Bancroft and Tim Paine have been much much worse.

 

[LiveLoveABD]

Warner, Bancroft and Tim Paine have been much much worse.

I don't know the stats but I have always felt Warner struggles with red ball cricket outside Australia. Don't ever remember him making an impact in India vs India or England vs England. I might be wrong but I don't remember myself ever going "How are we going to get Warner out?"

 

[Dutch]

So do they stick it out with Roy and Denly or bring someone else in? Archer and Leach have come in and given some added bite and control to the bowling. Be brave and hope for the same on the batting front?

 

[wasteyouryouth]

So do they stick it out with Roy and Denly or bring someone else in? Archer and Leach have come in and given some added bite and control to the bowling. Be brave and hope for the same on the batting front?

I don't think they'll change the side because the momentum is with England. And you can't drop Denly after that catch!

My only worry is Root bowling Archer into the ground.

 

[wasteyouryouth]

I don't know the stats but I have always felt Warner struggles with red ball cricket outside Australia. Don't ever remember him making an impact in India vs India or England vs England. I might be wrong but I don't remember myself ever going "How are we going to get Warner out?"

In 19 innings in England

Averages 30
0 centuries
6 fifties
7 single digit scores in the first innings (9 in total)

Khawaja averages 20.50 from 10 innings. One fifty.

Warner in India (24.25, 3 - 50's, 0 - 100's)

 

[zimrahil]

Phew, Archer is going to single handedly win England back the Ashes .....

 

[LiveLoveABD]

In 19 innings in England

Averages 30
0 centuries
6 fifties
7 single digit scores in the first innings (9 in total)

Khawaja averages 20.50 from 10 innings. One fifty.

Warner in India (24.25, 3 - 50's, 0 - 100's)

So I was right. I'm not surprised. Warner has always been suspect whenever I have seen him bat outside Australia.[DOUBLEPOST=1566203338][/DOUBLEPOST]

Phew, Archer is going to single handedly win England back the Ashes .....

Australia is in possession of the urn and if they win one test, it's going to stay with them. It's easier said than done. Archer was quite brilliant on debut, but you can have Archer, Akram, Hadlee, Lillee and Warne as a bowling attack, the batters still need to put runs on the board. England's woes lie there.

 

[Deleted member 193590]

They said on Sky debate last night,England will probably move Roy down the order and promote Denly to opener.

 

[Ed Smith]

They said on Sky debate last night,England will probably move Roy down the order and promote Denly to opener.

I'm not sure that I can see how that helps...