The Silence Of The Lambs Mafia - Endgame - SK (Sulaiman7) WINS

[Varun]

Around 8hrs remaining in the day. Good discussion so far, but I don't see the point of extending the first day.

 

[surendar]

Excellent, it's just now my suspect is more on Collin. Senator, which is least used role in movie, might have been the fake claim of Colin. The reasons & explanations of Senator given here are more from a dictionary than the theme plot by itself.

Also it's questionable on how Collin got the point of fake claim roles given - many games that we have played offlate did not have one & I definitely couldn't think of the existence of dummy claim from nowhere.

Varun - you would need to extend the time a bit, I would like to hear from others.

 

[thedon5]

Definitely a pointless claim, but if I'm being completely honest here after seeing just how misled the town was last game, I feel I would be of more use as a cleared townie. Call it selfish if you want, but I am no bomb to sacrifice myself at night, I'm ready to contribute early on, and like the rest of you, I want to win. Also, this allergy to claiming that PC games seems to have won't do the town any good.

I guess if the Mafia have been given fake claims it doesn't mean much, but it would be really hard for me to randomly claim this role since I haven't seen the movie and don't want to spoil it for myself.

I also find it a bit strange that surendar so easily accepted my claim, perhaps he is trying to get me on his side? Perhaps something to look into later on.

I am watching the film tonight, so on day 2 I will comment more on Colin's claim and the set-up and all. I have been avoiding these posts so far. I also have no idea who my character is and why she's important as surendar says, but if the Mafia have been given fake claims then even if it's a very important character, that doesn't make the claim airtight.

 

[Varun]

Varun - you would need to extend the time a bit, I would like to hear from others.

Extended. The day ends in 15 hours, and no extensions thereafter for the day.

 

[surendar]

My point is very simple - senator explanation given here for the claim have no connection whatsoever with the theme & hence I strongly suspect it! Senator in theme is kind of character who is been angered by Mr.Lecter and gives the info on Bill. That's it, she doesn't do anything to prevent injustice or by any normal US president terms.

I feel, Colin got himself trapped to be honest referring the generic meaning of senator. Or he is trying to send some message to someone here.

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Extended. The day ends in 15 hours, and no extensions thereafter for the day.

Thank you!

Guys - do read the plot in wiki link if you are not able to watch the movie. Like said in first few posts, it will definitely help to understand the role better.

 

[ved_]

I never cleared him, I just said his claim was believable/legitimate. You guys read way too much into everything. I didn't know that fake-claims were given.

 

[barmyarmy]

My point is very simple - senator explanation given here for the claim have no connection whatsoever with the theme & hence I strongly suspect it! Senator in theme is kind of character who is been angered by Mr.Lecter and gives the info on Bill. That's it, she doesn't do anything to prevent injustice or by any normal US president terms.

I feel, Colin got himself trapped to be honest referring the generic meaning of senator. Or he is trying to send some message to someone here..

As I said I was extrapolating from the role. I think you'll find that roles and characters are quite often shoe-horned together though. Look at the last game I ran; David Bowie as a faith healer, David Attenborough as a poisoner.
The theme is just flavour and as the game mod you use any small thing you can to justify giving a role to a character.

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Also it's questionable on how Collin got the point of fake claim roles given - many games that we have played offlate did not have one & I definitely couldn't think of the existence of dummy claim from nowhere.

Themed games without fake claims are a disaster. You just make everyone claim and then lynch off the least likely characters - no strategy at all.
Varun has played various of the older games hence I asked if there were fake claims available for mafia. I'm hardly going to draw attention to it if I have one am I?

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I also find it a bit strange that surendar so easily accepted my claim, perhaps he is trying to get me on his side? Perhaps something to look into later on.

Definitely strange that he is so willing to believe yours and challenge mine. Not normal.

 

[Sulaiman7]

Hmm....let me see.

I've read the plot and have seen the movie too. Considering that this is a short-game, I don't see that role senator here. With the mafias given fake claims, it makes the claims implausible a bit but I'm apt towards believing Don and not Colin.

I see the roles like this:-

Mafias: Buffalo Bill & Hannibal Lecter

Power Roles: Frederick Chilton as doctor & Clarice as cop

Town: Ardelia Mapp, Barney Matthews & Catherine Martin

I don't see Miggs having a part in this, as he didn't crop up.

 

[barmyarmy]

Senator isn't a role; it's a character.
She's Catherine Martin's mother.

Interesting that you've very confident that there are two mafia players. Town don't "know" that only mafia do so could be a tell.

Also in your roles I can't believe Crawford wouldn't be in so we're already up to 9 characters.

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I don't see Miggs having a part in this, as he didn't crop up.

Can you explain this comment please?

 

[Sulaiman7]

Miggs( Probable - Lecter's frequent referral )

I Barney has more contribution in the movie than Miggs.

I'm not too sure about Lecter too. As said by Suren:-

not sure whether he also acts protecting Clarice only like a doc role. may be not

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*I believe

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I don't see Crawford fitting anywhere.

 

[barmyarmy]

FOS: Sulaiman7

Feels like a soft claim for Barney and confusing that you are dismissing the idea of Crawford being in.

 

[thedon5]

Watched the film, very nice but in the end I was a little disappointed as I was expecting something very different. All I could think about during the movie is how I think a serial killer would be in this game.

I'm not sure about a two-man Mafia team AND a serial killer, that just wouldn't be balanced IMO. I don't think we can rule out Hannibal as the serial killer and Bill as the sole Mafia member. We will find out tonight.

I tend to agree with Sulaiman that there isn't really any role that makes sense for Miggs. I wouldn't be so sure that Chilton is town as well, or that he is a power role. Crawford is a big character, he has to be in it, surely...

I'm not sure why Sulaiman and surendar believed my claim so easily, it could be they're trying to get me onside, or it could be that they're simply evaluating the game well since I know my claim is true. It could also be that they're both vanilla, and using their roles they can guess that mine is true. Not sure which one.

I can't help but get a little suspicious of Colin's gameplay during the game as well. He seems a bit sensitive in this game. Zhuorb and yash are a bit off for me, but then again they are in most games so it's nothing new. P Squared is looking solid to me.

Anyway, will look further into these things tomorrow.

 

[Sulaiman7]

FOS: Sulaiman7

Feels like a soft claim for Barney and confusing that you are dismissing the idea of Crawford being in.

You mind doing the analysis then ?

 

[barmyarmy]

He seems a bit sensitive in this game.

Stuff seems obvious to me and then I have to explain it!

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You mind doing the analysis then ?

I thought I just did.

 

[Sulaiman7]

I'm not sure why Sulaiman and surendar believed my claim so easily,

I not 100% sure as there are fake claims. No one is believe-able. You can be a mafia fake claiming too but that doesn't seem any good as you hadn't watched the movie.

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I thought I just did.

I mean analysis on the role/characters. Like how Surendar and I did.

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Feels like a soft claim for Barney

So, for you Miggs should be in for Barney ?