West Indies tour of Australia, November-December 2009

[Iridium]

Anything under 400 for the Windies just won't do. The Australians at home will take full advantage of this pitch and rack up a huge score and with Taylor missing from the Windies attack and no Edwards on the tour, the attack seems blunt and I'm predicting that they're in for a hard slog.

 

[Raj_Aryan]

A very good 100 by Bravo, also the two batsman on crease are playing well...

 

[WORLD CHAMPIONS]

I heard around 4 days back that Mike Young will be helping India with their fielding during Ind vs Srl ODI series. Do we have already got a replace of Mike Young ??

 

[StinkyBoHoon]

I'm beginning to think I should retract everything I said about Gayle when the Gayle v Ganga debate was up.

The man is a pathetic test batsman these days. I honestly think Yuvraj is a better player in tests, and that's just sad.

 

[Dare]

I'm beginning to think I should retract everything I said about Gayle when the Gayle v Ganga debate was up.

The man is a pathetic test batsman these days. I honestly think Yuvraj is a better player in tests, and that's just sad.

He is just struggling, he is a good batsman in tests.

 

[sifter132]

I heard around 4 days back that Mike Young will be helping India with their fielding during Ind vs Srl ODI series. Do we have already got a replace of Mike Young ??

I saw Mike Young sitting on the boundary giving water to the players when I was up at the Gabba for the All-stars T20 game. An article I read mentioned he was off contract at the end of October, yet he was still hanging around the team for that All-stars game a couple of weeks ago. So he must be a helpful guy who likes hanging around the Aussie team.

Hopefully Cricket Australia gives him an extension, or if they think he's rubbish now, palm him off to the Indians :laugh

Don't worry you didn't miss much. Neither bowlers able to get any swing.

This is a big problem. Siddle can't swing the new ball, and Johnson is hit and miss at best. In England Siddle would get the ball to deck in off the seam, but I haven't seen that this summer. Must be the Duke balls with a more prominent seam. Watson was the only guy getting it to swing. Maybe he should get the new ball. Our current attack is a great 'flat pitch' attack as they can bowl fast and get enough movement off the seam when needed. But swing? Forget it. That's why a Brett Lee or Hilfenhaus in particular were so badly needed in England and will continue to be important.

I am eagerly waiting for Hauritz to use the Doosra, he is at this boring best.

Soz but I missed his wicket, any1 got a replay?

Ok I read on cricinfo he clean bowled him, a 1st EVER from Hauritz I believe?

I swear he bowled one yesterday! He bowled a ball to Sammy/Bravo which looked like a leg stump gift and the commentators made a comment along those lines. Score was 5/260 odd (I think..) if anyone can look through any footage. But no one in the box spotted anything different about the ball, there were no replays. It was just my instinct watching it. It just looked different, the wrist action. And it pitched on about leg stump, on a good length, but didn't go any further down leg, sorta straightening.

 

[pcfan123]

He is just struggling, he is a good batsman in tests.

Not so much struggling as he just does not value his wicket.

 

[StinkyBoHoon]

when hilfenhaus comes back, who do you keep? Bollinger, Hilfenhaus or.... Johnson?

he's off the new ball, he'd still expensive. I'm wondering if he's feature in so many plans if he wasn't good with the bat. (and Hauritz is getting there so maybe that shouldn't matter)

 

[irottev]

Bollinger or Siddle. Hilfy is a sure selection as is Johnson.

 

[aussie1st]

This is a big problem. Siddle can't swing the new ball, and Johnson is hit and miss at best. In England Siddle would get the ball to deck in off the seam, but I haven't seen that this summer. Must be the Duke balls with a more prominent seam. Watson was the only guy getting it to swing. Maybe he should get the new ball. Our current attack is a great 'flat pitch' attack as they can bowl fast and get enough movement off the seam when needed. But swing? Forget it. That's why a Brett Lee or Hilfenhaus in particular were so badly needed in England and will continue to be important.

Bollinger is meant to be a swing bowler but for whatever reason he can't replicate it. Siddle has swung it before and if you look at his seam position there is no reason why he shouldn't get it. Agree hes also missing the seam movement that has got him so many wickets. Even though Watson got swing, it was too threatening and it came in like the 30th over.

I swear he bowled one yesterday! He bowled a ball to Sammy/Bravo which looked like a leg stump gift and the commentators made a comment along those lines. Score was 5/260 odd (I think..) if anyone can look through any footage. But no one in the box spotted anything different about the ball, there were no replays. It was just my instinct watching it. It just looked different, the wrist action. And it pitched on about leg stump, on a good length, but didn't go any further down leg, sorta straightening.

Someone pointed it out on here but hard to know. Hauritz, usually doesn't get much turn anyway so it's harder to spot the doosra with him.

 

[TumTum]

Sifter, Siddle was getting the ball to move of the deck at the Gabba a lot.

+ Who was the one saying Siddle will never swing a ball in his life, even whilst Watson was getting big shape on it?

 

[sifter132]

That's why Siddle is good I suppose. He can do anything with the ball at anytime, just the trouble is he might not do what you want when you want. The same goes for Mitchell Johnson, but at least Mitch seems to work on a plan a little better than Siddle does. It just depends what kind of balance Ponting wants. If he likes 2 unpredictable, wicket taking bowlers with the dependability of Hilfy and Hauritz or does he want a Bollinger too? Watson is a decent enough 5th bowler, but will still leak runs because usually he'll get 1 ball (or more) in 6 wrong.

And where does Brett Lee fit? I think Ponting really likes having Lee in his team and I could see Lee coming back for Siddle probably for next years Ashes.

Then your Clint McKay or even Andrew McDonald would get a role when we need more control, maybe in Perth if Hauritz doesn't play.

 

[aussie1st]

Lee will have to work dam hard to get back in. Siddle has shown periods where he can be accurate and at times yesterday he was unlucky. But he does have quite a few bad balls in him.

I can't see Hauritz being dropped, hes bowled well so far and with Watson there isn't the same need to go with 4 quicks as we already have that. McDonald isn't needed now with McKay a quicker version of him and just as handy with the bat for a number 9.

 

[TumTum]

Did anybody see the footage of Hauritz trying to bowl the doosra in the nets?

It looks like a normal Doosra to me, nothing like a Carrom-Ball or anything mysterious.

 

[aussie1st]

Yea I saw it but wasn't paying enough attention. Neither Hauritz or Krezja said they wanted to bowl the Carrom-ball or something else, they have always wanted the doosra.