With cricketers quitting international cricket for IPL, should IPL be finally granted a window?

[RoboRocks]

It's time that the international cricketers who are currently playing work out whether or not their bodies will be able to take the strain of the weight of cricket of both IPL and international fixtures. The relative boards will also need to be more strict on players also. If a player chooses to play for his IPL franchise and then gets injured during international matches (i.e Pietersen and Flintoff), then the Board will have to give that player a choice to whether he plays IPL cricket or plays for his country, since these players obviously can't be trusted with their own fitness.

The IPL is, for me, a threat to test cricket the way players have a constant desire to play due to the amount of money being paid to them. The time needs to come where the majority of these current international players need to realise that test cricket is in danger, not only because of the T20 form of the game but also the money it seems that this IPL is offering players. I would like to see cricketers say "no" to the IPL and remember that playing for your country in a test match is the pinnacle in cricket. Modi, no matter how powerful a man he is, cannot force players to play. The IPL can go on as a domestic tournament, which features former international players such as Warne, McGrath and Hayden, and leave the current international cricketers alone. I believe that the tournament would still be a relative success just not as much as it would if you had the star cricketers playing.

 

[srikarr12]

I suppose I did not phrase my question properly.

Which is considered to be the more prestigious event in soccer, the World Cup or the finals or the most popular club league?

Obviously World Cup but only because the audience is bigger as it reaches almost every corner of the world. But Premier League also gathers plenty of attention, heck I wrecken thers more soccer fans in Australia then there are Cricket fans. But soccer isnt a strength for Australia but still gets the same coverage as the national cricket team.

Its almost pure fanbase oriented, the bigger the fanbase the more money that rolls in............

 

[SciD]

Who wants to see old retired players. Not everyone is in class of Hayden, Gilly or Warne.

If this happens then IPL would be like Dad's army that ICL was and that is not going to happen.

 

[pcfan123]

This thread title is a bit misleading.

No one has actually quit international cricket to specifically play for the IPL. Flintoff will still play for England and Symonds was kicked out of CA.

 

[King Cricket]

Well, Freddie's agent has said something ridiculously funny about his turning down the ECB contract.

The Telegraph - Calcutta (Kolkata) | Sports | ‘Adventure’ behind decision

According to Flintoff’s agent, the burly all-rounder is likely to appear in an adventure show on TV where he may go for bungee-jumping and the national contract with cricket Board does not permit that.

What the hell!

 

[sifter132]

I don't see how you can create a window for a domestic tournament. Especially one as long as IPL is now.

Yes these are the two big problems for me. I think the IPL should have a window, but only if they are willing to do a couple of things:
1) Shorten the tournament - 1.5 months is too long to go without international cricket for a domestic T20 tournament. Make it so teams only play each other once, not twice. It should be a month long at the MAXIMUM.

2) Raise the number of internationals who can play to 5 or 6, maybe even 7 - At the moment asking for an international window for 8 teams x 4 players is stupid. There are plenty of other tours that could go on with only 32 international players out of rotation. Sure there's more than that in the actual squads, but they're just sitting on the sidelines because of the international quota. Sure it's good for those players - they are getting a good paycheck for nothing, but it's not good for a tournament wanting an international window.

I doubt Modi or the BCCI is flexible enough to make these concessions though. Hopefully the ICC is strong enough to resist these calls until the IPL is willing to give up a little ground first.

 

[Howsie]

What about cutting down the amount of internationals in each squad. If they stick with just four internationals per team then each team should only be able to have six? international players.

 

[Kev]

I wouldn't raise the international player limit for IPL. Personally to have any credibility, it needs to retain its mostly Indian lineups. Apart from one or two really big name foreign cricketers are the Indian public really interested in seeing most of the foreign players? If I were Indian I'd much rather see a local lad in my side than someone like Collingwood for example.

 

[sifter132]

Well that's fine, but the IPL surely can't hold the cricket world hostage by demanding a window and then only using a fraction of the international players that have ALL been forced to stop playing.

I think leaving 4 per team and 6 or 7 per squad has worked well - for India. But if you are limiting it, it needs to stay as an Indian domestic tournament - not an international event.

 

[angryangy]

Yeah, that's the thing. They have big rosters because they know it's not feasible to just have the same four or five players on contract. In terms of retiring players, it's so far proved only a good thing, because people new to cricket still get to see what all the fuss was about.

The times when IPL is held are not typically heavy touring periods, it's not like it's an incredible hassle to get a dozen star players to turn up. The only problem is that it can't suit everyone all at once. Is that a big deal? If there was a window in the schedule, it still wouldn't suit everyone.

We saw in the inaugural tournament that the best players aren't necessarily recognisable stars and also in this year's tournament, that those old has-beens are still good enough to handle plenty of current internationals.

A window ensures maximum availability, but it does not ensure that the best possible teams take the field. Nor would you see 8 countries (besides India) equally represented by 10 players each. It is merely exclusion by a different method. It also comes with a rather extreme and unnecessary drawback for all forms of cricket and would still impact on players who wish to play domestically.

Rather than create an impractical window, they should simply work to ensure the tournament (which can evidently be played anywhere in the world) is not exclusive to the same players each year.

 

[khalek]

The boards have to be strict in this regard, those who put IPL first should be banned from playing international cricket, be it Flintoff or any other overrated character.

 

[SciD]

Window is being asked by retired players who write columns in newspapers and do commentary.

They are just jealous that it was not around when they were playing.

 

[rahuldravidfan]

IPL could dictate New Zealand's coach hunt

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Why is everyone being so stubborn and not giving IPL a window? For heaven's sake, think about yourselves and your country atleast, respected administrators. It doesn't make a difference to us and we have been more proactive than y'all to sort this mess out.

Why not keep your hypocrisy, er... "royalty" to the side for once and take a decision which will benefit you? Why not grant the IPL a window and get done with it once and for all?

 

[Howsie]

Any opportunity to talk about the IPL ay.

 

[Dare]

the side for once and take a decision which will benefit you? Why not grant the IPL a window and get done with it once and for all?

will the IPL benefit every up and coming cricket player in the Caribbean and every different island in the Caribbean when only a handful of WI players participate. I dont see any good from the IPL.

The only 20/20 solution I see that would actually benefit these countries is a tournament where 3 top teams (or more, or less) from every country participate in a 20/20 tournament that goes to every nation that has a participating team. Promote the game and give some of these lesser teams some more income.