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Right, not been on here for a while, so then....WM thoughts....here we go...

As has been suggested by KP, this event was saved by Taker/HBK, and oh boy, i'm not kidding when I say that this was easily one of the best (if not the best) matches I have ever seen, marked out for the whole thing, a real iconic Wrestlemania moment, I cannot stress how good this match was.

Secondly, the main event, was an utter fail. HHH winning was ridiculous, even more ridiculous was the way he dominated the match and didn't allow Orton to get much offence in. For goodness sake, having built up Orton as the biggest heel in the company to then bury him on the biggest show of the year is a farce, his momentum will now be scuppered and this has to be considered a major dissapointment, terrible.

The MITB was alright, some good spots, but was botch ridden and I really didn't care who won, I have no real objection to Punk winning, but I don't see what else they can do with him that they didn't do last year (unless a heel turn is in the works, and I really hope it is).

The triple threat for the WHC was ok, reminded everyone that Edge and Cena have good chemistry together, but the inclusion of Big Show was pointless, as he did very little in the match. It actually was better to watch than I thought it would be, but I really didn't care about it and I don't think many people in the crowd did either, just glad that this mess of a feud is over.

Was pleasantly surprised with the Jericho/Legends match, was booked nearly perfectly, Steamboat showed that he has still "got it" and put on a great (if a bit short) match, crowd were really into it, and the right man won, good match. The Rourke involvement at the end was a bit dubious but I suppose it was always going to happen and could have been far worse, at least Jericho wasnt made to look like a total bitch.

Hardys match was ok, pretty much exactly what I expected, a few decent spots, decent enough match, and the right man definitely won, lets hope Matt Hardy continues to get some sort of push. Can't help but think that this match would have benefited from having a bit more build up as well.

Divas match - farce, less said about this the better.

IC title match - pointless, another farce, didnt showcase the talent of either guy whatsoever, so much for JBL's "legendary announcement" or whatever, terrible, waste of a place on the card. At least it was marginally longer than the ECW title match at WM24.

I think I may have missed something amongst all that, but all in all, glad I didnt pay to watch this, not a great event, and the E screwed up the booking in the main event horribly, Taker vs HBK was incredibly awesome though, and is the one thing that drags the ppv has a whole up into the "acceptable" category.
 
It wasn't the best WM ever, was it? And I can't figure out how an issue that was so personal between Triple H and Randy Orton ended up as a bog-standard match? It should've been Hell in a Cell, or Last Man Standing, or Extreme Rules! It should've at least been a no DQ! Because of the nature of the event, Triple H couldn't really let out his fury and rage on Orton!

Also, the Rey Mysterio/JBL match was a complete waste of time. And I'd rather have had one more match than that impromptu Rock concert right near the beginning.

And yes, the Divas match was garbage.

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The Extreme Rules Match was pretty disappointing. Too short and needed a little bit more action.

and lol at sd92, he's gotten everything wrong so far :p.

Seems he got the last one correct though. 21 second match lol.

Agreed. I mean, an issue between Jeff and Matt in an Extreme rules match and no blood??? Plus it was too short.

Prediction 6: Correct - Undertaker def. Shawn Michaels

Wow, literally amazing. One of, if not THE, most amazing match I've ever watched. Undertaker's streak lives on and he's now 17-0 at WM. Amazing!

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Prediction 7: Incorrect - Carlito & Promo def. Miz & Morrison

When was that match? I don't remember seeing it, maybe I fell asleep at one point. Oh well, there's always the repeats.

You did well with your predictions then =P

Apparently it was a crap PPV, only slightly saved by Taker vs Michaels. Glad I didn't pay to watch it.

Yeps, wasn't really worth it, should've saved it for Pacman/Hatton next month.
 
raw has always topped smackdown but i think raw got better when eric bichoff took over but now in 2009 smackdown are starting to get all the main wrestlers like undertaker , triple h and edge:boxing
 
raw has always topped smackdown but i think raw got better when eric bichoff took over but now in 2009 smackdown are starting to get all the main wrestlers like undertaker , triple h and edge:boxing

Well, it's draft-time next week. I think it's a given that Triple H and Randy Orton will be drafted onto the same show...
 
The Unified Tag Match wasn't on WM, they pulled it and had it as a dark match beforehand. I only realised late on in the PPV, so my prediction result in then...
 
raw has always topped smackdown but i think raw got better when eric bichoff took over but now in 2009 smackdown are starting to get all the main wrestlers like undertaker , triple h and edge:boxing

To bad that the ratings are terrible, though thats to be expected given the TV network they are on, with the impending debut of the new show "superstars" one has to wonder how much life is in the "brand split" and how long it will be before they axe the concept entirely.
 
Maybe the Triple H v Orton thing will really get out of hand at some point in the future. It's far too personal not to be settled in Hell in a Cell.
 
Good to see Undertaker keep his streak, I was worried when the match was made as people were saying HBK should be the man to break the streak. But as I said watching the build up convinced me he wasn't going to break it. Maybe they will have a rematch for him to break it when Undertaker does call it quits. Anyway their match was a ripper, got really intense towards the end.

Cena match well I could see the finish happening when Edge jumped on Big Shows back. Divas match had the usual domination from Beth and going by the lead up you could tell Sentino was going to be in it and once in it he was going to win.

Triple H and Orton match was alright, as said I don't see this being the end of the fued.
 
I reckon Vince McMahon getting older has contributed to the end of the Attitude era as well as Stone Cold retiring. McMahon's no longer the biggest heel since he can't wrestle as often. Plus, there's no anti-hero who faces up to him anymore.
 
He will probably finish off as a face now that he is aligned with Triple H. Vicky is the big heel going around so they don't really need another one atm.
 
Vince is definitely in a Face role at the minute. With him, Shane, Triple H and now Batista forming some form of an alliance and taking on Orton and his crew, Vince is certainly playing the Face role.

On the other hand, I've been reading that there are plans to Unify the WWE Title and the World Heavyweight Title at next year's Wrestlemania. Oh god, please no!! We've already Unified the Tag Titles and now this, yet we have TWO, yes TWO Womens' Titles on the go! Crazy!! :noway
 
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Bring back the Undisputed title. Far better looking than the woeful chavved up spinner belt. The old style WWE Title belts were so much nicer. I used to love the old WWF Title, the one at the top of this picture. Just looks classier than the awful spinner title. I like the idea of unifying the titles as well, could mean that they unify the brands as well, WWF was always better in the old days when there were no brands.
 
Bring back the old WWF Title that they used to have in 2001 - Best looking belt in the history of the wrestling.

Also, absolutely gutted not to see Orton beat HHH at Wrestlemania. What a disgrace!
 
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Bring back the Undisputed title. Far better looking than the woeful chavved up spinner belt. The old style WWE Title belts were so much nicer. I used to love the old WWF Title, the one at the top of this picture. Just looks classier than the awful spinner title. I like the idea of unifying the titles as well, could mean that they unify the brands as well, WWF was always better in the old days when there were no brands.
Yes I agree, the sooner the brand split is ended the better in my opinion, it will make for a much stronger product overall, though, sadly, brand unification would also mean a lot of very decent underused performers would end up getting sacked. But overall, completely agree with this post

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Vince is definitely in a Face role at the minute. With him, Shane, Triple H and now Batista forming some form of an alliance and taking on Orton and his crew, Vince is certainly playing the Face role.

On the other hand, I've been reading that there are plans to Unify the WWE Title and the World Heavyweight Title at next year's Wrestlemania. Oh god, please no!! We've already Unified the Tag Titles and now this, yet we have TWO, yes TWO Womens' Titles on the go! Crazy!! :noway

What the hell? Why on earth is this a bad thing? The tag team division has been stagnant for the best part of half a decade now, unifying them shows that (hopefully) the E is placing greater emphasis on the tag division as a whole and maybe putting some better feuds together.

I remember back in 99-00 the tag team titles were pretty much on an equal par with the IC title for being the most important thing on a PPV card below the World title, for the past 5 years or so both titles have pretty much been used to bulk up filler feuds and fill in places on PPV cards with useless pap.

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I reckon Vince McMahon getting older has contributed to the end of the Attitude era as well as Stone Cold retiring. McMahon's no longer the biggest heel since he can't wrestle as often. Plus, there's no anti-hero who faces up to him anymore.

TBH the attitude era was over long before Stone Cold retired. The fact that Vince doesn't wrestle any more means nothing, as he got the most heat back in 98-99 before he even appeared in the ring regularly. I think the main reason he doesnt get as much heat as he did previously is simply because the whole "Mr McMahon" gimmick/character is stale.

That said, I doubt he current face persona will work well, as they never do, I see a heel turn somewhere in the near future (maybe Batista as well) as part of some betrayal of HHH
 
I wasn't saying that Unifying the Tag Belts was a bad thing, if you read my post. I was saying that, IMO, unifying the WWE and the World Heavyweight Titles would be a bad thing.

Ok, it might sound good, but when you think about it, it's really not. Think of the long, long list of people who would be fighting over it, it would actually decrease competition. There'd end up being 4 or 5 guys - Triple H, Batista yada yada, who'd get it, and the likes of CM Punk and Jeff Hardy wouldn't even get a look in. That's surely a bad thing, no?

Also, I was pointing out...how on earth can they justify unifying the top two belts in the company, but having TWO Womens' Titles?
 

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