2025 ICC Champions Trophy - General Discussions

[Bigby Wolf]

So for finals will numbers game catch up with India once again in the finals?

Like it has been doing for last 11 years now - 2014 WT20, 2017 CT, 2021, 2023 WTC and 2023 WC.

2024 WT20 they somehow managed to break the jinx though.

 

[DuneTiger]

Don't really see how India don't win. I just hope NZ have learned some things from the game earlier in the tournament.

Runs on the board and early wickets is probably their only real way to put India under any sort of pressure.

 

[icyman]

India's weaknesses:
1. Openers not firing and in erratic form: While played scored, he scored against Bangladesh post which he hasn't been able to do justice. Rohit believes he is there for the 10 overs and that's it.

2. Over reliance on the middle order and Iyer: The middle order has been getting the runs for us. Iyer has scored so far in almost all games and that too at a good rate.If NZL target the middle order strategically, like Australia did in Ahmedabad, it would be game over.

3. Kohli's slow approach: No one is really talking about it cause we have won the games. He is now accustomed to the climatic conditions and should be able to score faster. Taking the game deep by keeping wickets in hand is old-fashioned cricket and might back fire in the Finals.

4.Spinners: Please drop Kuldeep. Jadeja too has been a containing spinner.

If NZL targets the above, they will win. If batting first, they need a score in excess of 260 to win.Once they have that, the Indians might crumble against the spinners whilst chasing.

If chasing, they can milk the spinners during the middle overs to get closer to the target. Remember, they have Ravindra, Williamson & Young to graft the runs for them. Mitchell, Phillips, Bracewell and Santner can tonk the ball towards the end. All they require is some smart cricket.

 

[Bigby Wolf]

New Zealand with their spinners have more than half decent shot at India.

They troubled them not too long ago in October back in India.

If there is one team that India didn't want to face again or in the finals it has to be New Zealand.

 

[Bigby Wolf]

Will losing another ICC final will make BCCI bankrupt or lose major chunk of money?

 

[icyman]

Will losing another ICC final will make BCCI bankrupt or lose major chunk of money?

There's a large number of people who don't want India to win another World event. It is quite apparent from the talks around the world. As someone pointed out in this thread, the Indian team has played well. We have had scenarios in the past where some teams have played entirely in UAE (Pakistan, during their forced absence from home) but they haven't been able to dominate the Dubai scene.

The cricket world and the BCCI might be impacted if the Indian team doesn't make the knockouts in a World Event. Cause as long as they are playing, the money is in the game.

 

[Bigby Wolf]

There's a large number of people who don't want India to win another World event. It is quite apparent from the talks around the world. As someone pointed out in this thread, the Indian team has played well. We have had scenarios in the past where some teams have played entirely in UAE (Pakistan, during their forced absence from home) but they haven't been able to dominate the Dubai scene.

The cricket world and the BCCI might be impacted if the Indian team doesn't make the knockouts in a World Event. Cause as long as they are playing, the money is in the game.

Coming from a country like Pakistan is quite expected.

All their youtubers who are churning views by praising India and Sucking Kohli will dance like no tommorow if New Zealand wins on sunday its been know pattern from them and has been since 2016 because of the digital era taking place in India because of JIO.

Saving the world - I mean common is way too exaggerated, yes India can lose but is it going to make any impact of BCCI's financial situation or affect BCCI in any sense since the whole talk these days is about BCCI vs the world.

I mean as fan if Indian team myself I am more prepared to see India lose given their history in the knockouts since 2014.