2nd fastest spinner

ronny_kingsley said:
It is humanly impossible to generate such pace from such small run up without actually throwing it .

Also it is quite visible that during his so called faster balls his action is quite jerky.

Jerky as in he seems to wait a bit longer to complete the delievery stride and his action.

Thats why and also its my point of view regarding .

Everybody like me are entitled to have thier views.


Wow, so where did you get your physics degree? :onpc
 
zMario said:
He is not throwing the ball.

Afridi comes from an area in Pakistan called N.W.F.P (It's a state)

From there, a lot of Pathans are born. Pathans are generally exceptionally strong, and have their arms can do different things. (Like Shoaib Akhtar, although to my knowledge, he is not a Pathan.) Afridi can indeed put force into his upper and lower arm, to obtain that speed. In this manner, the arm is still straight, and cannot be considered chucking, although in one manner he is throwing the ball with his lower and upper arm. I repeat, this cannot be called chucking.

By the way, Warne does somewhatly of what Afridi does to get his massive spin. Remember the ball during The Ashes, it was a way wide ball, spun, and took Strauss's leg stump? He used the lower and upper arm, to obtain that spin. THIS IS NOT CHUCKING/THROWING. This is allowed, as the arm is straight.

(Ronny isn't going to respond to this post now :) )

Why wont I respond to it bro ???????????

You mentioned Warne's delievery that one came from the back of his hand ie using his wrist .

Afridi doesnt bowl the faster one similar to his leg brakes.It comes off the hand ie not from the back.

Thats why I said Afridi throws his faster ones never did I say he is a chucker
 
andrew_nixon said:
right........

Now, if you could be so good as to provide the proof of this.
If I recall correctly Afridi was no-balled once (due to his action) while playing against India a while ago. I sorta remember that Jadeja was the batsman and the ball beat the keeper and went to boundary in no time.

I may be wrong about this. Please spare me if its wrong.
 
cricket doctor said:
Thanks Usy and Zorax,
Ya, pretty impressive test batting avg. A slogger can't have that sort of avg.
+ decent enough test bowling avg. for a spinner.

We really don't use him as our strike bowler, but he is different and sometimes that does the trick. In ODI's though, he bowls his overs really quickly therefore not allowing the batsman to think. He does well economiclly and takes quite a few wickets! Very handy all-rounder to have in the ODI's. He is surly the most flexable all-rounder with Razzaq. Razzaq has played in all positions in the batting liine-up and has started the bowling. Yes, I know we overuse our players and sometimes it really screws up thier career..(Umar Gul)
:(
 
ronny_kingsley said:
Why wont I respond to it bro ???????????

You mentioned Warne's delievery that one came from the back of his hand ie using his wrist .

Afridi doesnt bowl the faster one similar to his leg brakes.It comes off the hand ie not from the back.

Thats why I said Afridi throws his faster ones never did I say he is a chucker
I stated that this is not throwing...

Andrew, can we ban him now? :)
 
aussie1st said:
Same with Symonds who bowls medium pace and off spin so he can bowl quite quick of spinners. I've seen him get 110km/h with his off spin.

Just as fast as Sourav Ganguly! :cool:
 
If you follow Symonds, you might notice he has not two, but three styles of bowling. The first is the long run-up medium pace. This is his "strike" method, he swings the ball, trying to bowl accurate and concentrating on the batsman. Then, you will see him bowl off spin, in which he does well at containing batsmen and hurrying through overs.

Now the third is the medium pace again, but with a short run-up. This is meant largely for when spin is deemed inappropriate, but it is necessary to speed up the game. It also has the shock value, where the batsman is unsure whether pace deliveries or spinning deliveries will come off the same run up.
 
Kodos was right I hear as O'Reilly was a genuine leg break bowler but extremely quick through the air, not just a surprise delivery, rather his stock.
Afridi's is a good element of surprise but often results in a rubbish delivery that is short outside off where the batsman dispatches it without a problem. However if he gets it right it is lethal particularly in one day cricket. Its not very well disguised though... Anyway it should be O'Reilly or anyone similar as his was legspin , whereas Afridi basically runs up and hurls it down as pace.
 
Afridi's faster one had an initial shock value. Now, though, batsmen have it at the back of their mind and know how to read it, so it's not as dangerous.
 
muhammad_inzi said:
guys afridi fastest ball is 132kmp so right now i think he is the fastest spinner.
do you have screenshot of that delivery..cause thats kinda hard to believe.
 

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