Ashes 2015 - Australia tour of England July/September 2015

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He was bowling pretty quick in the one dayers against NZ as well, hitting 90 regularly.

I think he's taken the pace off a bit to sort out his technique.

In short bursts like wood yes, but the drop off in pace is drastic

 

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I'm a really big fan of Woakes, but I think he will eventually take Jimmys place in the side, as he's a good swing bowler.

I think Lyth should be given the rest of the series regardless. We'e so quick to dump players thee days. I've been banging on about Taylor fo 4 or 5 years it seems! I'm not sure he'll get a chance in the near future, which is a massive shame. Hales looks good, and after the series, if Lyth hasn't worked out, I think he'll be next in the opener role.

Agreed about woakes taking over from Jimmy, Chris is the best bowler in the cc by far imo. But surely you want him to learn from Jimmy being in the same team.

Lyth would normally get the series, but this is the ashes, and it makes England selectors gaga.

Taylor had a very timely remind with his 290 odd

Hales is the only option to open isn't he really.
Bolter for the UAE may be ansari, as an extra spin option and left arm spin

 

[richowebbo]

Agreed about woakes taking over from Jimmy, Chris is the best bowler in the cc by far imo. But surely you want him to learn from Jimmy being in the same team.

Lyth would normally get the series, but this is the ashes, and it makes England selectors gaga.

Taylor had a very timely remind with his 290 odd

Hales is the only option to open isn't he really.
Bolter for the UAE may be ansari, as an extra spin option and left arm spin

I'm not sure I know who Bolter is. I've also never seen Ansari but some people here have aid he is good. I don't like to comment on players I haven't seen, but I trust people on here know what they are talking about. For left arm spin, I watched Borthwick a few years ago and was very impressed, but someone said he hasn't really bowled this year.

Since we got rid of the TV, and thus Sky Sports, I have to admit to not watching as much CC as I'd like. As I've gone off Football (money has ruined it) and F1 (in the main boring, and money is controlling rules), Cricket is about the only sport I am interested in and its sad that more CC games aren't available so we can see the guys coming through playing. I'd like to see Clubs offer matches via their own live streams for say 10 quid, so you could watch more.

Taylor has had a dodgy summer, but he is quality and in my opinion better than Ballance.

I think apart from Hales, the only valid option is Nick Compton, who once again has been scoring lots of runs. If we're looking to the future, Hales is the only answer, although keep an eye on Alex Lees from Yorkshire.

Would you drop Lyth id he doesn't score this week?

 

[richowebbo]

I would keep Buttles in there but I agree with resting Woods. I've heard he is fragile and he didn't always look at his best last test. Then again, he has had over a week of and I'm not sure if Plunkett is a useful inclusion. if only Jordan wasn't injured.

I still rue the way the ECB treated Finn, oh what could have been

I really like Plunkett (as you may have guessed, I love the Yorkshire players!) and I didn't like that he was asked to bowl short against India and Sri Lanka last summer. When he bowls full, or at the top of off, he is a pain because he gets variable bounce.

I really don't rate Chris Jordan. He is so wayward and inconsistent.

Chris Woakes is the best bowler not in the England Squad. In my opinion he is better than Stokes, Wood and Finn. He is also a decent batsmen and when Anderson retires, he will be a welcome replacement.

I would pick an England side that can play together for the next 5-6 years, and just stick with it. Let them grow up, and improve together.

 

[LiveLoveABD]

I really like Plunkett (as you may have guessed, I love the Yorkshire players!) and I didn't like that he was asked to bowl short against India and Sri Lanka last summer. When he bowls full, or at the top of off, he is a pain because he gets variable bounce.

I really don't rate Chris Jordan. He is so wayward and inconsistent.

Chris Woakes is the best bowler not in the England Squad. In my opinion he is better than Stokes, Wood and Finn. He is also a decent batsmen and when Anderson retires, he will be a welcome replacement.

I would pick an England side that can play together for the next 5-6 years, and just stick with it. Let them grow up, and improve together.

England are quite rich when it comes to proper all rounders. Woakes is unfortunate not to be in the side. I feel his bowling can progress further although he's good already. I won't say he's a decent batsman. I'll say he's a proper one and very capable of batting at 7. 8 would be too low for his talent, just like Ali right now.

Jordan is a waste. He's athletic but he's a second hand version of an all over the place down on pace Mitchell Johnson. Like you, I'd monitor Wood for now and bring Plunkett in if needed. Finn is too vulnerable, even now.

EDIT- James Taylor made 290 odd recently. Surely, Ian Bell is on his last chance.

 

[dp458]

I'm not sure I know who Bolter is. I've also never seen Ansari but some people here have aid he is good. I don't like to comment on players I haven't seen, but I trust people on here know what they are talking about. For left arm spin, I watched Borthwick a few years ago and was very impressed, but someone said he hasn't really bowled this year.

Since we got rid of the TV, and thus Sky Sports, I have to admit to not watching as much CC as I'd like. As I've gone off Football (money has ruined it) and F1 (in the main boring, and money is controlling rules), Cricket is about the only sport I am interested in and its sad that more CC games aren't available so we can see the guys coming through playing. I'd like to see Clubs offer matches via their own live streams for say 10 quid, so you could watch more.

Taylor has had a dodgy summer, but he is quality and in my opinion better than Ballance.

I think apart from Hales, the only valid option is Nick Compton, who once again has been scoring lots of runs. If we're looking to the future, Hales is the only answer, although keep an eye on Alex Lees from Yorkshire.

Would you drop Lyth id he doesn't score this week?

Bolter meaning a pick from nowhere

Taylor hasn't been great, but the 290 was timely, in div 1 and not against Leicester, but gets nowhere near the fanfare kps knock got.

Ansari is good and I'm biased having played with him and against at Cambridge Uni.
But he isn't ready as a batsman yet, div 2, Surrey need to get promoted.

Balance is good and will force is way back in probably at the expense of bairstow in a year's time who isn't great against spin, jeetan patel caused him issues

Borthwick is a leggie not left arm, and bats 3 for Durham and hardly bowls now.
Kerrigan is the leftie,but he is rubbish.

I would drop lyth if he doesn't get runs, mainly as I wasn't overly convinced he was test standard at the start, was just the best of a bad bunch, but you have to look at hales next.

 

[dp458]

I really like Plunkett (as you may have guessed, I love the Yorkshire players!) and I didn't like that he was asked to bowl short against India and Sri Lanka last summer. When he bowls full, or at the top of off, he is a pain because he gets variable bounce.

I really don't rate Chris Jordan. He is so wayward and inconsistent.

Chris Woakes is the best bowler not in the England Squad. In my opinion he is better than Stokes, Wood and Finn. He is also a decent batsmen and when Anderson retires, he will be a welcome replacement.

I would pick an England side that can play together for the next 5-6 years, and just stick with it. Let them grow up, and improve together.

Plunkett was used awfully but he is down the pecking order now .

Woakes has a better fc average than stokes , so would be too low at 8, but he should be in the team as an opening bowler if he is picked,so 8 is fine, long term might move up to 7 if we find a non moeen Ali spinner

 

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England are quite rich when it comes to proper all rounders. Woakes is unfortunate not to be in the side. I feel his bowling can progress further although he's good already. I won't say he's a decent batsman. I'll say he's a proper one and very capable of batting at 7. 8 would be too low for his talent, just like Ali right now.

Jordan is a waste. He's athletic but he's a second hand version of an all over the place down on pace Mitchell Johnson. Like you, I'd monitor Wood for now and bring Plunkett in if needed. Finn is too vulnerable, even now.

EDIT- James Taylor made 290 odd recently. Surely, Ian Bell is on his last chance.

Jordon is awful end of

Woakes s injuries were just poorly timed, and a rushed comeback for warks 2s didn't help

 

[LiveLoveABD]

Jordon is awful end of

Woakes s injuries were just poorly timed, and a rushed comeback for warks 2s didn't help

I think, with a cricketer like Jordan you can do a lot of work. He has the athletic ability, he can smack it around, a tremendous fielder anywhere and he has some pace about him. If he falls in the hands of a good coach and an able leader, you can really get him to develop. At the moment, he's nowhere. In and out of the side, just nowhere. I think his selection in the tests was rushed.[DOUBLEPOST=1438011169][/DOUBLEPOST]

Plunkett was used awfully but he is down the pecking order now .

That was a proper Mitchell Johnson hangover. England got rolled over by Ishant Sharma. There are few things more embarrassing than that.

 

[richowebbo]

England are quite rich when it comes to proper all rounders. Woakes is unfortunate not to be in the side. I feel his bowling can progress further although he's good already. I won't say he's a decent batsman. I'll say he's a proper one and very capable of batting at 7. 8 would be too low for his talent, just like Ali right now.

Jordan is a waste. He's athletic but he's a second hand version of an all over the place down on pace Mitchell Johnson. Like you, I'd monitor Wood for now and bring Plunkett in if needed. Finn is too vulnerable, even now.

EDIT- James Taylor made 290 odd recently. Surely, Ian Bell is on his last chance.

Waokes is better than decent. I just said decent meaning he can bat. Sorry, I always do this! I need to expand my use of adjectives!

 

[richowebbo]

Bolter meaning a pick from nowhere

Taylor hasn't been great, but the 290 was timely, in div 1 and not against Leicester, but gets nowhere near the fanfare kps knock got.

Ansari is good and I'm biased having played with him and against at Cambridge Uni.
But he isn't ready as a batsman yet, div 2, Surrey need to get promoted.

Balance is good and will force is way back in probably at the expense of bairstow in a year's time who isn't great against spin, jeetan patel caused him issues

Borthwick is a leggie not left arm, and bats 3 for Durham and hardly bowls now.
Kerrigan is the leftie,but he is rubbish.

I would drop lyth if he doesn't get runs, mainly as I wasn't overly convinced he was test standard at the start, was just the best of a bad bunch, but you have to look at hales next.

Ah sorry, I understand now! I was trying to think of someone who could have been Bolter!

Yes sorry of course Borthwick is a leggie and Kerrigan is the leftie. Sorry! Mind was obviously not in gear earlier. Yeah Kerrigan is garbage. I've heard good things about Adam Riley, but I've never seen him play.

I think calling Lyth the best of a bad bunch is a bit harsh. He did very well for Yorkshire last year, and you can only judge someone who isn't in the national team by their County form.

Taylor, by all accounts, looked very good for his 290 but as you say, there was no front/back page headlines like when KP got his 290 odd. I think the media love KP because they can sell more papers if he's in the side. They do love a superstar! However, I do rate KP very highly but his time is gone.

 

[LiveLoveABD]

Waokes is better than decent. I just said decent meaning he can bat. Sorry, I always do this! I need to expand my use of adjectives!

haha! You're just fine. I enjoy your posts.

Edit- Simon Kerrigan debuted in an Ashes test right? For some reason I remember a left arm English spinner getting absolutely walloped. May be I still hold memories of Tuffnell or Giles.

 

[dp458]

Lyth has a FC avg of 42, and had only 1 great season, which shouldnt be enough imo, but there were no other options, hence the best of the bad bumch anaology

 

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I really like Plunkett (as you may have guessed, I love the Yorkshire players!) and I didn't like that he was asked to bowl short against India and Sri Lanka last summer. When he bowls full, or at the top of off, he is a pain because he gets variable bounce.

I really don't rate Chris Jordan. He is so wayward and inconsistent.

Chris Woakes is the best bowler not in the England Squad. In my opinion he is better than Stokes, Wood and Finn. He is also a decent batsmen and when Anderson retires, he will be a welcome replacement.

I would pick an England side that can play together for the next 5-6 years, and just stick with it. Let them grow up, and improve together.

Great point and with Plunkett 30 now, I don't see him as someone who can be playing regularly, in multiple formats through the next 5 years. Every successful team in cricket history has had consistency between Test and limited over selections, so guys like Stokes, Jordan, Ali, Rashid and co should be the first on any team list and then we can have Plunkett, Woakes et al in as reserves.

 

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We have some quick bowlers, but not an out and out fast bowler, which would makes me fancy Finn a bit! But as you say, the pitches would probably help another Spinner.

I remember when Finn first came onto the scene and I was so excited. Its a real shame he hasn't fulfilled his potential.

Finn was so quick when he first came in, a very un-English bowler and one who could add spice toa line up that can, at times, get very samey. But Finn isn't that guy any more