Ashes Cricket 2013 General Discussion

[MattW]

Fine...

I always try to do my bit by reporting posts but I don't understand how this post here First Screenshots Released is allowed to be still there even after it was reported by me. Same with the above post.

That post was infracted - however because it caused a lot of subsequent discussion, removing it, and only it, wouldn't have achieved anything. We could have deleted pages and pages of discussion to remove one quote, but instead we have other ways of dealing with posts that are not made public.

Posts are easiest to remove if they aren't replied to for that very reason.

I've never thought 'idiot' was a particularly terrible insult - and again, what exactly do people expect to happen if they reply to a post and then expect it to be deleted by the mods? Should we delete their post but let you keep a 'right of reply' to a post that isn't there? Do you expect us to go and remove all traces of an offending post even if that means editing pages of posts?

As I said a day or so ago in response to Ross calling someone a moron,

Hesitant to respond to this seriously with the smilie, but it's not so much banning words (if we had a massive issue with 'moron' it'd be in the filter, which it certainly isn't), but an expectation of members being civil towards eachother.

I'd say in this context it's a reasonable enough response to a post that is ignoring facts just to get people angry.

When part of the decision on a post is 'context' - not just the simple usage of a particular word - then yes, the particular moderator and their views is going to come in to play.

When the initial post was a message to get people to calm down and be patient about when something was going to happen. I'm not going to pick on the exact language used in making a valid point.

 

[angad]

This happens often and the reason why I have not been active on the forums.

And I think I have had enough too!!! That post from MattW seemed like the last straw for me as well!!! Sucks to be a part of a forum where the behavior of the Mods goes beyond the definition of the term double-standards!!!

to Planetcricket.net

 

[Eugene]

And I think I have had enough too!!! That post from MattW seemed like the last straw for me as well!!! Sucks to be a part of a forum where the behavior of the Mods goes beyond the definition of the term double-standards!!!

to Planetcricket.net

 

[79cricket]

Don't worry guys lee just forgets his happy pills like everyday or two. I say let's give him a face and move on.

PS My view is I would love mike to talk to his bosses and sort a day for this reveal of features/screens/video. If we have a date then maybe it will limit the asking. Just a thought.

 

[Pat]

When part of the decision on a post is 'context' - not just the simple usage of a particular word - then yes, the particular moderator and their views is going to come in to play.

When the initial post was a message to get people to calm down and be patient about when something was going to happen. I'm not going to pick on the exact language used in making a valid point.

This is really disappointing to read. Why not change the forum rules to then say that it is *okay* to attack someone if you are making a valid point. I think it just gives a select few people unfair powers to decide when it is acceptable and when it is not to insult someone.

You said I'm not going to pick on the exact language used in making a valid point but it's unfair that only you and a select few get to decide what is a "valid" point. Like in this example - I think what happened is totally unfair.

 

[79cricket]

And I think I have had enough too!!! That post from MattW seemed like the last straw for me as well!!! Sucks to be a part of a forum where the behavior of the Mods goes beyond the definition of the term double-standards!!!

to Planetcricket.net

Don't let it get to you angad, lee is a pain but he is not on here to much so no biggie. PS I bet you are in the screens tonight for DB14.

 

[glenny134]

I have to agree with MattW, I'm not a mod, I've had posts deleted(by him aswell) and in every instance he and other mods have been right, no use arguing. Just because you feel hard done by, doesn't mean you have been. You have to look at the bigger picture because its not all about you(not directed at anyone in particular)

Oh and to keep it on topic....Wicketkeepers body...

 

[MattW]

This is really disappointing to read. Why not change the forum rules to then say that it is *okay* to attack someone if you are making a valid point. I think it just gives a select few people unfair powers to decide when it is acceptable and when it is not to insult someone.

It isn't 'okay', I'd rather he didn't make that post - and had there not been a reply at the time I'd have slightly edited it to remove the idiot comment.

But, once there is a discussion of a post, then I have to make a decision on whether there's enough reason to delete it or go and remove a bunch of quotes about it.

It's very hard to consistently apply a rule finding a line on what constitutes an insult - some people are very easily offended, other mods might have different views on what is fine and what isn't. Something I might leave might be deleted by someone else, something I might delete would have been left by someone else.

When I think someone is making a valid point - even a valid point I disagree with - I'm more willing to leave a borderline post. The quality of the overall contribution is a factor in the impact that particular wording has. A short post that's only an attack on someone is a very clear cut thing - a broader post that touches on a few things as part of an ongoing discussion isn't as clear.

I acknowledge fully that it cannot be consistent - we disagree among the staff on what to delete - you're just getting my opinion on things. Another mod might well react differently and I think we have a diverse enough moderating team that what I think doesn't dictate everything.

I'm just really getting sick of how we've had pages and pages of people ripping apart every quote from Mike, talking daily about how it is September now and that we can demand everything now.

That skews how I'll look at posts in here - I'm not going to suggest it doesn't. Not being a robot makes it hard to achieve perfect consistency. I try to enforce the spirit of the rules, not the letter. The goal is so that the forums are enjoyable - the ability to be light hearted and off topic from time to time, the ability to have an argument without having to check your emotions at the door.

I'll get it wrong from time to time.

 

[Snowy]

If you feel insulted by the word 'idiot', then get off the internet

 

[79cricket]

MattW does have a point but at the same time maybe mike should try to say something. This is there time to shine the red ball. BRING IT ON.

 

[MattW]

MattW does have a point but at the same time maybe mike should try to say something.

I certainly want to hear 505's view on kitchens moderation.

 

[79cricket]

If you feel insulted by the word 'idiot', then get off the internet

That is the smartest thing I have read in a long time, idiot is not that bad. PS Like I said early just give Lee 1981 a huge face and get back to the game. PS Backward bats.

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I certainly want to hear 505's view on kitchens moderation.

MattW that forum is a joke, I go there for a laugh and I am all laughed out. PS Trickstar need to give some good news, if video/screens are not ready I bet they could think of something in the meantime.

 

[blockerdave]

That is the smartest thing I have read in a long time, idiot is not that bad. PS Like I said early just give Lee 1981 a huge face and get back to the game. PS Backward bats.

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MattW that forum is a joke, I go there for a laugh and I am all laughed out. PS Trickstar need to give some good news, if video/screens are not ready I bet they could think of something in the meantime.

i have been given a sneak preview of the news from mike fegan. sit down before you read this, it may shock you.

"we continue to polish the game and concentrate on bug fixing. we will be sitting down shortly to work on marketing assets."

 

[79cricket]

Blockerdave, you forgot something. What about the KITCHENS

 

[Dutch]

Guys, maybe we just all need to calm down a bit. This is not the G20 summit. Why oh why are people taking things so so personally? It is a cricket game forum.

It just isnt worth fighting or falling out over. From my point of view I can say that it is so so hard sometimes to be consistent and knowing that whatever you do as a mod or admin is going to upset someone.

There is a lot that goes on behind the scenes in terms of contacting people and trying to guide things in a civil manner. There are certainly worse cases of namecalling I can think of.

Anyway, to each his own.