Ashes Cricket General Discussion

[Langeveldt]

I am glad I never bought this... As much as many complain, if you still made the purchase then you are part of the reason we are getting these bad games. It's rewarding and vindicating exactly the approach they have been taking if you still buy the product... Vote with your wallet.

Especially after DBC17, I thought people would be more wary... Maybe now after Ashes and AO they will be for any future BA products.

We had a pretty fantastic game on release. At least for bowling.. At the time I bought it the game was great. Now they've patched the life out of it which makes me even more angry, like they've taken it away from me.

 

[blockerdave]

We had a pretty fantastic game on release. At least for bowling.. At the time I bought it the game was great. Now they've patched the life out of it which makes me even more angry, like they've taken it away from me.

and i've given a pretty clear explanation as to why. there is no control: no understanding of what outcomes are required, systems to achieve them, and what the acceptance criteria are.

using the FC 4th inns / odi 2nd inns example above - a system mikey said doesn't is obviously in play in some form.
we were once told there was no requirement for the AI to maintain an arbitrary rpo - @francobaldo1 has proven there is just such a variable in the game and it has an effect.

i don't believe they are dishonest, i just don't think they can control these things.

we asked how field selection logic worked so we could use it in suggesting new fields for the AI - the answer was the person didn't know.
we asked how pitches should differ from each other and how they should behave so we could see if it was the case - the answer was the person didn't know.

i'm not going to name the person or their role, but suffice to say they are in a position not knowing it off the top their head is acceptable but not being able to retrieve the info quickly and easily was not.

 

[Top Score]

I just purchased the game and the LOLs started in the first over of my 10 over game. Bowling first I had the AI batsmen hit a cut shot straight to point who took the catch and my player just stood there so I manually appeal. Slater comments that he has no idea why I was appealing and the umpire gives it not out.

Then when I go out to bat the AI changed the field every single delivery even though I couldn't hit the ball off of the square!

Great first impressions BA!

Sorry if I have posted this in the wrong section.

Edits - spelling and added detail

 

[Dutch]

and i've given a pretty clear explanation as to why. there is no control: no understanding of what outcomes are required, systems to achieve them, and what the acceptance criteria are.

using the FC 4th inns / odi 2nd inns example above - a system mikey said doesn't is obviously in play in some form.
we were once told there was no requirement for the AI to maintain an arbitrary rpo - @francobaldo1 has proven there is just such a variable in the game and it has an effect.

i don't believe they are dishonest, i just don't think they can control these things.

we asked how field selection logic worked so we could use it in suggesting new fields for the AI - the answer was the person didn't know.
we asked how pitches should differ from each other and how they should behave so we could see if it was the case - the answer was the person didn't know.

i'm not going to name the person or their role, but suffice to say they are in a position not knowing it off the top their head is acceptable but not being able to retrieve the info quickly and easily was not.

As a member of the beta team I really strongly disagree with the manner in which you are bringing things. We have had some good and strong discussions in the beta thread and in PM’s which certainly had their place. I dont think it is right to bring all kinds of things that are said in a private enviroment into the public discussions. You have a very clear opinion about things; I think you need to be a little more circumspect in your public posting about people and processes that have taken place.

 

[blockerdave]

As a member of the beta team I really strongly disagree with the manner in which you are bringing things. We have had some good and strong discussions in the beta thread and in PM’s which certainly had their place. I dont think it is right to bring all kinds of things that are said in a confidential enviroment in the public discussions. You have a very clear opinion about things; I think you need to be a little more circumspect about people and processes that have taken place.

I appreciate your point and my aim is not to alienate anyone within the beta or make things more difficult for you.

It is however to make clear why I do not have any optimism about the next stage of the support process.

I also don't believe I've said anything that can be considered breaking a confidence. And I'm sorry if you feel I have. There has been much I have not said for that reason, for sure.

 

[Deleted member 9102]

Yeah, only post about the nice things!

 

[Nithin Antony]

Is there any news on any patch coming?? If not I am never buying big ant games again.

 

[Llewelynf]

I appreciate your point and my aim is not to alienate anyone within the beta or make things more difficult for you.

It is however to make clear why I do not have any optimism about the next stage of the support process.

I also don't believe I've said anything that can be considered breaking a confidence. And I'm sorry if you feel I have. There has been much I have not said for that reason, for sure.

Dave, I have to agree with @Dutch here. I get you're not very optimistic, fair enough. But just because you are pissed does not mean you should be scathing in your attacks.

 

[Dutch]

Yeah, only post about the nice things!

Again, someone who decides to pick a part of a post and misrepresents the actual content claiming it to be something it is actually not.

 

[Llewelynf]

Yeah, only post about the nice things!

Thats not what was said.

 

[Deleted member 9102]

Again, someone who decides to pick a part of a post and misrepresents the actual content claiming it to be something it is actually not.

True, it wasn't exactly what was said, but it seems that you are only ever on that side of the fence and only chime in to encourage others to do the same. Same for @Llewelynf also, including "liking" all the posts saying anything remotely positive about BA or a BA product (there's a handful of folk like this).

If the "confidence" of the beta threads were broken in the same way, but positive aspects were the focal point, I'm sure you wouldn't have made the same effort to encourage Dave to rein it in.

 

[Dutch]

True, it wasn't exactly what was said, but it seems that you are only ever on that side of the fence and only chime in to encourage others to do the same.

If the "confidence" of the beta threads were broken in the same way, but positive aspects were the focal point, I'm sure you wouldn't have made the same effort to encourage Dave to rein it in.

My point is clear; what happens in Vegas should stay in Vegas.

Dave or anyone is entitled to their opinion and is entitled to express that in a way they deem fit.

 

[blockerdave]

Dave, I have to agree with @Dutch here. I get you're not very optimistic, fair enough. But just because you are pissed does not mean you should be scathing in your attacks.

The intention is to be honest more than scathing.

I am also happy to say loud and clear I would be delighted to be proved wrong.

The game has excellent elements and I can have fun inspite of the crap bits.

If I'm wrong and BA are able to bring coherent support that progresses the bad without regressing the bad, I will be as delighted as anyone.

 

[Thieves]

The more I read this forum , the more I hate this game. The more I play this game, the more I love this game.

Going to stick to playing the game and reading less of this forum until the topic changes.

 

[sashu_91]

I am glad I never bought this... As much as many complain, if you still made the purchase then you are part of the reason we are getting these bad games. It's rewarding and vindicating exactly the approach they have been taking if you still buy the product... Vote with your wallet.

Especially after DBC17, I thought people would be more wary... Maybe now after Ashes and AO they will be for any future BA products.

Absolutely will!