Ashes Cricket General Discussion

Dutch said:
Its tricky getting the finer grades of sandpaper to work but I am sure a few will point out that the coverage of sand to papier ratio is slightly off....*


* a joke (a public service announcement)
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Hope Lehmann doesn't get offended with someone pointing out his sandpaper quality. :p
 
It's incredible that this is going down pretty quietly TBH.

Amazing that Smith has admitted he knew it was going to happen. It's basically saying - Yeah, we cheated. We organised it beforehand at the highest level and carried it out and we cheated.

I don't think there's ever been a more blatant example.
 
Chief said:
It's incredible that this is going down pretty quietly TBH.

Amazing that Smith has admitted he knew it was going to happen. It's basically saying - Yeah, we cheated. We organised it beforehand at the highest level and carried it out and we cheated.

I don't think there's ever been a more blatant example.
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Might also be due to the fact that it all went down in the middle of the night in AUs.

Apparently James Sutherland is holding a meda briefing at midday AEDT. Might be interesting.
 
Chief said:
It's incredible that this is going down pretty quietly TBH.

Amazing that Smith has admitted he knew it was going to happen. It's basically saying - Yeah, we cheated. We organised it beforehand at the highest level and carried it out and we cheated.

I don't think there's ever been a more blatant example.
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For me this ties in with something I've noticed getting progressively worse over the last couple of decades. Australia has always been a tough, play as hard as the rules allow kind of nation, it's been part of their success. As the last several years have been going by, it seems that they are sinking to whatever tactic it takes, sportsmanship, within the rules, within the spirit of the game, legal or not. I'm not saying they're alone or that every other nation is innocent, no. I am saying that when it comes to issues between teams, they are the world leaders.

You'll often find in the Ashes recently nastiness and controversy, Australia speak of a "hatred". Between Australia and India there has been ridiculously high tensions and accusations. Between NZ and Australia, NZ spoke of being relentlessly positive, whilst Australia sledged, sneered and mocked. Now between, South Africa and Australia it's been an antagonistic and ruthless affair from the start. Nearly everywhere you find the worst aspects of International team culture, you'll find Australia as a team waving the flag for bullish nastiness.

Recently New Zealand have been playing England in all formats, each giving each other the best attacking batting, the toughest bowling, the sharpest fielding that they can. The pitches have been issues, but the spirit between the teams has been wonderful, despite going all out to beat each other.

I don't blame Australians themselves, plenty of nice people there. If I were an Australian fan however, I wouldn't be at all happy or proud of where they've been heading in broad terms culture wise over at least the last 10+ years.
 
Chief said:
It's incredible that this is going down pretty quietly TBH.

Amazing that Smith has admitted he knew it was going to happen. It's basically saying - Yeah, we cheated. We organised it beforehand at the highest level and carried it out and we cheated.

I don't think there's ever been a more blatant example.
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The fact it has happened is all down to the fact that you need some brains in your leadership group: Warner is an utter thug, Lyon is just plain dumb and Smith hasnt always impressed me of being mature: the wheel of karma wears long leather boots and she is a real bitch!
 
The whole leadership group should be brought under the scanner, it includes the coach as well. No way he is not aware of the incident, (as it looks on replay) he was communicating with sub fielder about the incident and he looked like cautioning.

On the other hand, is it only me who thinks Cricket Australia should have acted warned the leadership group (including Coach) during the brain fade episode.
 
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