Australia in India

[SaiSrini]

Oh we have a comedian in the building everyone...

..You had to say that because you know that what I said was true.

How do you read such stuff inspite of being a stranger to a particular person??? U must be God!

Coming back to topic, if Ganguly is passed fit, this should be the team for the third game in Hyderabad. Last time in 2005, India were put in and were rocked early by 5 quick wickets by South Africa and even a Yuvraj hundred couldnt save us from losing that match. The pitch will be pacer friendly early on. So we need to have 7 batsman plus Pathan. We can also do away with Ramesh Powar for this game.

Indian XI
Tendulkar, Gambhir, Ganguly/Rohit Sharma, Yuvraj, Dravid, Uthappa, Dhoni, Pathan, Harbhajan, Zaheer, Sreesanth

 

[Cricket_god]

Yeah, at how many runs? He has taken a bit of stick. Well, ask Sreenath to get him out earlier rather then getting him out for a dominant 87.

In odis if you give 50-60 runs on flat tracks and get 3 wickets its job well
done mate .wickets are important not runs specially when you bowl in powerplays look at lee he does not get wickets and get carted around at 8

In reply to Cricket_god;



Pollock is fine now, he is still a great bowler, McGrath was a legend, Clark was was fantastic in his shadow as the 3rd seamer, imagine if he can still be that good without McGrath there! There are no limits bar age that can stop him from being as effective as McGrath in the 5 day game.




When has Clark "strugggled" on flat pitches? Name one match! A Test but, because nowadays all ODI pitches are batsman pitches.



He gets it up to 137 and anyways, McGrath bowled at that pace for the last 3 summers and he still dominated including that 8 for not many against Pakistan.



Cricket is a game of both bat and ball, I dont think they could make it to number one just on their bowling. Their batsman have played their part. Collingwood, Bell, Cook have all been great IMO. I dont know what you think is "World Class"? Because if Bell and Cook aren't good batsman then I would hate to hear what you think of batsman such as Ashwell Prince, Ramnaresh Sarwan etc. I bet you all of Indians middle order is World Class of course.



Thats surprising, I didnt think they were that low. But they have a good batting line up full of stars so I would still say for Clark to bowl that damn good on debut overseas is just amazing.



Yeah I know, but we always rotate our bowlers so he can't always get a spot in the side.



Swing bowlers? Do you watch Cricket? Nathan Bracken! He is the best ODI swing bowler I have seen play for Australia in ages, Brett Lee swings it in the right conditions, Hilfenhouse is a geniune swing bowler and Tait can get swing and even reverse! So I dont know where you pulled that one from...Only Stuey Clark is the other bowler who doesn't really move it.



Yes, considered. Don't think he will get it but. MacGill is first choice. Young spinners? We have some, not good enough to challenge MacGill for a Test birth as of yet.

If being treated like a spinner is fine and losing you test place is fine then
i have no comments,just one season and you are treating clarke like he is the next mcgrath ,i clearly do not agree hopefully after 2 years we will
see whose judjement of talent is right

as i have said in odi matches he does looks ordinary, i have seen him in malaysia against west indies and
in tests and odis against bangladesh ,he not played many outside home or southafrica though

I Bet before going to australia india will be no 2 england are sure to lose to srilanka and india beating pakistan so they will not be no 2 ,i never said they
were not good batsman ,please read properly they are still not world class,you have play on for few years and prove yourself for a period fo time to be world class,any doubt indian middle order is world class,specially
australians should not say these are the guys who have hammered them specially in tests .

mcgrath did hit the deck harder than clark and got alittle seam movement
and was accurate and even in the last 3 seasons was quicker than clarke

They are full of stars of odi cricket mate

I wanted to say that australia needs a good right arm swing bowler not like lee who needs favourable conditions may be like ben,

i do not favour the slingly type bowlers i think they sacrifice bouce for pace
and pace .

 

[aussie_ben91]

Hogg is a ODI spin bowler only, and a way better ODI bowler then Sreesanth is. Probably one of the best ODI spinners in the world, if not the best.

Hogg won't play Test Cricket because his wrongun' is pickable with the red-ball but seemingly successful with the white ball.

Stuart Clark is turning out to be a very good strike bowler, even better then Brett Lee because no matter what he does he picks up wickets constantly.

Harbhajan's an idiot btw, a very controverisal character that I don't like anymore. I'd take Clarke's word over him anyday.

 

[Hooper]

In odis if you give 50-60 runs on flat tracks and get 3 wickets its job well
done mate .wickets are important not runs specially when you bowl in powerplays look at lee he does not get wickets and get carted around at 8



If being treated like a spinner is fine and losing you test place is fine then
i have no comments,just one season and you are treating clarke like he is the next mcgrath ,i clearly do not agree hopefully after 2 years we will
see whose judjement of talent is right

as i have said in odi matches he does looks ordinary, i have seen him in malaysia against west indies and
in tests and odis against bangladesh ,he not played many outside home or southafrica though

I Bet before going to australia india will be no 2 england are sure to lose to srilanka and india beating pakistan so they will not be no 2 ,i never said they
were not good batsman ,please read properly they are still not world class,you have play on for few years and prove yourself for a period fo time to be world class,any doubt indian middle order is world class,specially
australians should not say these are the guys who have hammered them specially in tests .

mcgrath did hit the deck harder than clark and got alittle seam movement
and was accurate and even in the last 3 seasons was quicker than clarke

They are full of stars of odi cricket mate

I wanted to say that australia needs a good right arm swing bowler not like lee who needs favourable conditions may be like ben,

i do not favour the slingly type bowlers i think they sacrifice bouce for pace
and pace .

Ok, I feel like I have said enough on the Stuart Clark issue, we will see how he goes this summer.

Why do we need a good right arm swing bowler? Because India has an average out swinger, Australia suddenly needs one? We are fine, Lee is great and Shaun Tait is a geniune swing bowler so there's two.

Any swing bowler needs the right conditions, you wont get any quick swinging the ball on a hot day on a pitch with no moisture. Swing mainly depends on the conditions and the bowlers action.

Hogg is a ODI spin bowler only, and a way better ODI bowler then Sreesanth is. Probably one of the best ODI spinners in the world, if not the best.

Hogg won't play Test Cricket because his wrongun' is pickable with the red-ball but seemingly successful with the white ball.

Stuart Clark is turning out to be a very good strike bowler, even better then Brett Lee because no matter what he does he picks up wickets constantly.

Harbhajan's an idiot btw, a very controverisal character that I don't like anymore. I'd take Clarke's word over him anyday.

Haha, yeah, I just read the cricinfo article about him sobbing to the media

 

[aussie1st]

Clark was awesome during the English domestic season especially in the OD arena. He always gets wickets, I use to call them lucky ones but when you do it time and time again there is more to it than luck.

 

[surendar]

Harbhajan's an idiot btw, a very controverisal character that I don't like anymore. I'd take Clarke's word over him anyday.

You know what, he has loads and loads of talent... but that poor guy doesn't realise how to use them :

Because India has an average out swinger

No, India is yet to find a pace bowler. So doesn't have any! : Its still shocking/suprising how the bowlers have won the Twenty20 for India.

 

[jkartik]

Harbhajan's an idiot btw, a very controverisal character that I don't like anymore. I'd take Clarke's word over him anyday.

do a reality check on ponting's controversies and not to even mention your beloved warne and then come back at me !!

No, India is yet to find a pace bowler. So doesn't have any! : Its still shocking/suprising how the bowlers have won the Twenty20 for India.

yeah...and whats more surprising is that aussies are getting all worked up
from an AVERAGE swing bowler....:

 

[SaiSrini]

Haha, yeah, I just read the cricinfo article about him sobbing to the media

Yeah, much like one Mr. Symonds who sobbed to the media about how hurting the celebrations of the Indian Twenty20 winners were in the face of the Australians who think they can be the only World Champions in cricket, and who know that here is a team who can seriously challenge them in their face.

do a reality check on ponting's controversies and not to even mention your beloved warne and then come back at me !!

yeah...and whats more surprising is that aussies are getting all worked up
from an AVERAGE swing bowler....:

You know what, he has loads and loads of talent... but that poor guy doesn't realise how to use them :

That guy was posting that one in a highly provocative fashion, and here you are replying back to it in a very humble fashion. Did Mahatma Gandhi's soul by any chance enter into you on Oct 2nd?

No, India is yet to find a pace bowler. So doesn't have any! : Its still shocking/suprising how the bowlers have won the Twenty20 for India.

Pace bowler? What are Sreesanth and RP Singh there for? These guys crank up a maximum pace of close to 148kph. Thats quite some pace especially for an Indian fast bowler. May be we dont have a Brett Lee or a Shane Bond, but these guys are quite good bowlers when it comes to pace. And they are bowling well too.

 

[angryangy]

The constant flaming in this thread is getting unreadable.

 

[aussie_ben91]

do a reality check on ponting's controversies and not to even mention your beloved warne and then come back at me !!

Atleast Ponting nor Warne lose a game of cricket then accuse the opposition that they lost to as "sore losers".

 

[RoboRocks]

Please stick to the topic, this is about India vs Australia.
Its starting to develop an arguement as well.

 

[surendar]

That guy was posting that one in a highly provocative fashion, and here you are replying back to it in a very humble fashion. Did Mahatma Gandhi's soul by any chance enter into you on Oct 2nd?

lol.. no need to get tensed Sai.. stay Calm

Pace bowler? What are Sreesanth and RP Singh there for? These guys crank up a maximum pace of close to 148kph. Thats quite some pace especially for an Indian fast bowler. May be we dont have a Brett Lee or a Shane Bond, but these guys are quite good bowlers when it comes to pace. And they are bowling well too.

Well well welll... Neither of them impressed me. I think they are still in party mood of Twenty20. Among other bowlers, Powar was horrible in both the games... Bhaji was bowling something like for formality sake.. dear pace bowlers failed to spot the block holes in depth overs... Only Pathan, was sticking to a proper line but was not looking aggressive enough...rather he looked less than ordinary. This won't suit him to play tests in particular.

Is it only me or everyone were able to see that, commitments in past two games have been relatively very very less than the one we played in previous series.

 

[m_vaughan]

Pace bowler? What are Sreesanth and RP Singh there for? These guys crank up a maximum pace of close to 148kph. Thats quite some pace especially for an Indian fast bowler. May be we dont have a Brett Lee or a Shane Bond, but these guys are quite good bowlers when it comes to pace. And they are bowling well too.

I dont think either RP Singh or Sreesanth would make the current Kiwi or Australian side.

 

[sohum]

Oh we have a comedian in the building everyone...

..You had to say that because you know that what I said was true.

No. I said it because despite everyone around you spelling Sreesanth's name correctly, you still misspelled it every time. Stop trying to put words into my mouth.

Harbhajan's an idiot btw, a very controverisal character that I don't like anymore. I'd take Clarke's word over him anyday.

I feel from past experiences with you that you would take Clarke's word over Harbhajan's even if Bhajji was an absolute gentleman and an intelligent one at that.

The constant flaming in this thread is getting unreadable.

Tell me about it. And there are still 5 games to go. I think I'm just going to stay off PC during India's tour to Australia. Unless, of course, we do well, in which case I will be happy to come back on and return the rub-it-in.

I dont think either RP Singh or Sreesanth would make the current Kiwi or Australian side.

They are the best we have. Similarly, I don't think Hogg or Patel would make the Indian side. Whilst Hogg is a damn good performer in ODI's, I think most of his success comes due to the fact that he is one of the few chinamen in world cricket today.

I think someone also needs to have a word with Bhajji about strategies. He's just spearing them in. Chawla will be useful in the coming years because leg spinners are also quite rare in ODI cricket.

 

[Cricket_god]

Hogg is a ODI spin bowler only, and a way better ODI bowler then Sreesanth is. Probably one of the best ODI spinners in the world, if not the best.

Hogg won't play Test Cricket because his wrongun' is pickable with the red-ball but seemingly successful with the white ball.

Stuart Clark is turning out to be a very good strike bowler, even better then Brett Lee because no matter what he does he picks up wickets constantly.

Harbhajan's an idiot btw, a very controverisal character that I don't like anymore. I'd take Clarke's word over him anyday.

Thats why he is not even sure of a place in the side you are joking hogg is
not even half of murli

Clarke is also an idiot i remember australia loosing a match because he
said something to gayle i saw how gayle went after him he was like smallboy
crying:crying

Ok, I feel like I have said enough on the Stuart Clark issue, we will see how he goes this summer.

Why do we need a good right arm swing bowler? Because India has an average out swinger, Australia suddenly needs one? We are fine, Lee is great and Shaun Tait is a geniune swing bowler so there's two.

Any swing bowler needs the right conditions, you wont get any quick swinging the ball on a hot day on a pitch with no moisture. Swing mainly depends on the conditions and the bowlers action.



Haha, yeah, I just read the cricinfo article about him sobbing to the media

Lets see after some years if this average swing bowler is not the best bowler in the world.

Lee is still no great specially in test cricket he has a few years still to prove that ,tait i have seen him few times in new zealand where
the ball was swinging out of the ground,still he is improving, i meant a genuine outswing bowler specially if they have to retain the ashes in england where its swings a lot even if he is no good like ben

also i saw a article on cricinfo about symonds sobbing to the media

I dont think either RP Singh or Sreesanth would make the current Kiwi or Australian side.

come on, kiwi side shane bond has lost pace and they have a weak bowling line up
R.p singh is the most improved bowler in the last few months the swing he got in england was amazing and he bowls at decent pace too.he is way better than the 2nd quickie kiwi have,also look at his odi stats its pretty impressive considering he bowls in subcontinent,if they wont make the kiwi side i think its their problem not rp singhs problem or sreesanth problems ,they both have bright futures as do your young bowlers .